Movie Producers Ask Chinese Video Game Pirates If They Can Make An Official Version Of The Game
from the embracing-the-infringers dept
Sheri Candler points us to this fascinating story, where the Finnish producers of a "sci-fi Nazis-on-the-moon spoof" movie called Iron Sky have decided to try to work with a Chinese company who turned the movie into an unauthorized "pirate" video game for the iPad, to see if they could turn it into the official version of the game.Rather than sue the company, "Iron Sky" creators are now in talks with Ziiso to make a legitimate iPad game.Of course, we've talked about the Iron Sky producers in the past, and their history suggests that they're really open to embracing such things, rather than freaking out about them. They're the same folks who created the amazing Star Wreck film years ago for free. They then turned the massive success of that into Iron Sky, which was funded with $10 million in a hybrid funding model that combined some traditional financing along with a ton of fan support by allowing fans to buy "War Bonds" to crowdfund part of the movie.
"The people at Ziiso apologized to the 'Iron Sky' team in an interview conducted by the largest newspaper in Finland, Helsingin Sanomat," said "Iron Sky" director Timo Vuorensola.
"The apology and Ziiso's willingness to correct their error convinced me that we could co-operate with them on the game project. We are currently negotiating with Ziiso about revamping the game and publishing it as part of the official 'Iron Sky' merchandise."
These are clearly folks who always look to embrace what people out there want... rather than freak out and try to block others.
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Working game = added value. -- Pirated movie = NO INCOME.
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I don't know how the judges are going to react, make it work.
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0/10, no shit Sherlock
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2nd, it's NOT the same product as you confuse it: 'You're the only one who would think "creating an add-on product is not the same as illegally releasing the ***same*** product" and think its worth noting.'
That it's DIFFERENT products IS my point. You freetards try to say there's value in pirating the movie -- this ain't that case.
But now "HothMonster", since you say it's OBVIOUS, I don't expect to see you ever (again) dispute the statements in my post title: "Working game = added value. -- Pirated movie = NO INCOME." If you do I'll refer you back to your (tacit) admission here. That's the value of computerized memory, prevents contradicting in future.
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Yes pirates releasing movies is not a direct source of income for the content creators, whether there is value from pirating that is received by the content creator or whether content creators(and middlemen) could make money by being more like pirating is a whole other argument.
"2nd, it's NOT the same product as you confuse it: 'You're the only one who would think "creating an add-on product is not the same as illegally releasing the ***same*** product" and think its worth noting.'"
how did i confuse anything? by same i meant the original as in not creating an add-on product. I guess i shouldn't expect reading comprehension from you.
"In fact, I don't call making a game infringing, and am surprised that Mike would, but he's often hasty in writing."
Making a derivative product from someone else's IP is infringing. I can't just go make a lord or the rings or matrix game without licensing the IP. But im not surprised this confused you as you are often hasty in your stupidity.
I look forward to your logic vomit
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I'm always keen to elicit thoughtless revelations such as: "But I'll be nice and pretend I agreed with you". -- So, trapped by your prior statements, you both embrace them and back away from them, pretending that you were (or are) pretending. Okay, gotcha, you're a pretender, we can't trust anything that you say.
You also seem to despise logic, further nailing that down.
I don't, however, look forward with relish to your reply. I'd be happier if you didn't, if you'd just ignore me.
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Feel free to remind me that I said "You're the only one who would think 'creating an add-on product is not the same as illegally releasing the same product' and think its worth noting." whenever you want. But since you want to try adding meaning to it and your reading comprehension is horrible I gave you the deeper meaning. I was never saying I agreed that there is no value in pirating, I was just saying your an idiot for thinking "apples are not oranges" is a worthwhile and non-obvious comment. I never meant to imply that agreed with how you felt about the oranges, but then was kind enough to clarify with another statement you can feel free to bring up whenever you please. It happens that i do agree that there is no income from pirated movies however income != value which I believe is was your plan to say that I thought pirating has no value for the content owners.
Seems like you might really be upset because you forgot to capitalize words at random in your post because even though the internet has been around for about 2 decades you still think that doesn't make you look like an idiot. Hows that for invective?
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Mike isn't making a link between ppl who download and ppl who buy, like you are here. He was making the link between studios who freak out when people use their intellectual property to make something new.
That is, finding someone "stealing" their ideas to make a new and desirable product, then suing them into the ground for having the audacity to do it.
In this case, the Iron Sky guys decided to go a different direction and actually work with those people. It comes out as a win/win for both the studio and the 'pirates'.
So, now do you see the difference?
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out_of_the_blue, Oct 4th, 2011 @ 9:43am
Knew there'd be freetards who can't see that video game at least potentially HELPS the movie producers while pirating the movie does NOT, at best returns nothing. That's synergy (which I'm FOR), not just theft.
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he didn't say that, at all, in the slightest, not even a little bit, no, no, no
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Just because I have seen a movie via any of these methods does not mean I will never see it again. Nor does it mean I will never buy a ticket or pay for a video game or associated merchandise.
When I see a good movie, or sometimes even a really really bad one, of course I will want to watch it more than one time.
I have seen movies that were "pirated", and then gone to see it on the big screen. Yes, actually buying a ticket to a movie that I would otherwise never see. I have also bought the movie on dvd or blu-ray when it was available.
Its not as clear cut as you would have it. Not all people pirate movies. Not all people who do pirate never set foot inside a movie theater or video store.
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from the obvious-pirate-apologist dept
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Re: Re: @ "HothMonster": please quit spamming the page with gibberish.
Again, you're mistaken if you believe that you're /helping/ Mike or the site with such comments.
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Re: Re: Re: @ "HothMonster": please quit spamming the page with gibberish.
The lulz would be epic, if time-consuming.
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You know, I'm really tempted to make a separate account for counter-trolling you.
The lulz would be epic, if time-consuming.
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You don't HAVE any "lulz", sonny, just imagine that you do, that's the sad fact. So it's not a threat that you make. No more than a squeak by a stepped-on puppy.
And I can always ignore you. Not going to waste material on this bunch of trite dullards.
But thanks for admitting you're here to troll. Part of your permanent record now.
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Of course you are. Why would you stop?
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You won't.
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I don't think I'm helping anyone, I'm just passing some time at work by responding to peoples bullshit with my own bullshit. I don't know why the anti-mike pointless attacks are worthy of defending but the,i guess pro-mike but really just anti-troll, attacks are worthy of your scorn. I would love to know why the OP comment is worthy of your white-knighting or why that comment deserves anything more than what i gave it.
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The fact that you consider any of that free association tells me so much and more about your reading comprehension.
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Apologized for what, getting caught?
You know they didn't give a wet fart about the legality of what they were doing.
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