CreativeAmerica Literally Resorts To Buying Signatures
from the grassroots! dept
Remember CreativeAmerica? This is the slickly produced operation that claims to be a "grassroots" organization in favor of SOPA and PIPA... but which is actually funded by the major studios, staffed by former MPAA employees, and has had all the major studios directly pushing employees and partners to sign up for the program -- even to the point of threatening to take away business if they don't sign.This is also the group that was caught copying an anti-SOPA activism letter, and using the exact same words as if it was written by themselves (I guess they're fine with plagiarism). It's also been caught using funny math to pump up its tiny number of supporters.
In December, we joked that CreativeAmerica had resorted to buying support, after it released a big (and expensive) advertising campaign all over TV and on some big screens in Times Square. Not exactly a "grass roots" operation.
Either way, it appears the group has gone more direct now: to the point that it's literally paying people for signatures. I've received very credible evidence, that a consulting firm hired by CreativeAmerica is now offering to pay people to get signatures on CreativeAmerica's petition. The following email was forwarded to me, with some details redacted to protect privacy:
the organization I am doing work for is Creative America, which is a grassroots organization that is working to stop foreign rogue websites from illegally distributing American content such as books, music, films, etc.... These specific websites costs the U.S. and the 2.2 million middle class industry workers $5.5 billion in wages and hundreds of thousands of jobs. Your job would be just collecting signatures from whoever is interested in signing up for updates. A newsletter may come once a month and anyone can unsubscribe if they don’t want it. We don’t care if they do; all I care about is getting initial signups.This raises even more questions about the already anemic number of people supporting CreativeAmerica and its pro-SOPA, pro-PIPA, MPAA-driven agenda. As the email makes clear, they're willing to pay as many people as possible to get signatures to make the group look larger than it is. That's pretty crazy. I think we can be pretty sure that the millions of people who spoke out against SOPA/PIPA did so without someone paying them $1 per call or email.
The hours are flexible and we will pay you $1/signature, so if you collect 100 signatures a week, we would pay you $100/week. We will also pay for you to go to local film festivals in the area (SXSW, Austin Film Festival, etc.). We are also taking as many people as possible, so if you have some friends who are interested in doing it we can take them as well. Let me know your thoughts....
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Filed Under: astroturfing, buying support, copyright, grassroots, pipa, protect ip, sopa
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When the only tool you have is corruption, everything starts looking like a politician?
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This News Story is not surprising at all.
Hopefully some very smart IT TYpes will be able to get into the private emails of these Arses and out to the Public the Dirt that we all know exists in the scummy Hollywood Industry.
Paying off Politicians,Paying Private Citizens Now, and their "LEGAL" ways of Accounting which is the true cause of money loss in the film Industry.
Boycott Big Content Organization on FB
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Also, buying votes tends to be illegal. Are there any laws against what is happening here?
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Think of it this way. Hammer is a tool that gets applied to nails. Bribes/money is a tool that gets applied to politicians.
Corruption is a tool that gets applied to ... the public (since that's who it hurts)?
I'm sure someone can come up with something funny, but right now I can't.
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"Not if you paid me for it..."
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and the rest are poor delusional sheep, looking out for the best interests of corporations
yes mike, why yes, i have to agree
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Thank you for your concern.
RIAA/MPAA
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However in this case it merely shows that there is no real grass roots support for SOPA.
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The funny thing about this is that the unions here tried to use this as a reason why signature-gathering was nefarious a while back. They actually had ads saying that those gathering signatures for petitions were being paid (along with them being criminals,) and thus people should never sign a petition or they were opening themselves up to fraud and identity theft. The goal was to keep people from signing petitions that the unions didn't like, but unfortunately it backfired for them because when they actually wanted people to sign petitions for stuff they wanted, the people wouldn't sign because of fears of identity theft and fraud.
http://libertarianpeacenik.blogspot.com/2011/08/california-radio-ad-hinders-petition.html
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If you must pay to gather things quickly you probably didn't had the support anyways.
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To get a question on the ballot, depending on what type it is, it can be from 8% to 15%.
On top of the actual amount is the time restraint. One must get all the required signatures in a fairly short period of time. In Oklahoma's case it is 6 months. Next we have the issue of what makes a valid signature. One must clearly print their name, sign their name, fill out the exact address (not a PO box) and date it. Additionally, all signatures have to be grouped by county. If you sign on a page that is not your county, your signature is not valid.
So with all these restrictions and hurdles one must get 1.5x to 2x the number actually required to make sure they get the needed amount. You need a lot of people gathering. While volunteers will work for some of the larger political movements, smaller ones have a need to get paid petitioners.
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Woot I'm Rich
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In Related News...
(the fifth is holding out for a better contract)
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Geesh. I keep losing small words in my posts lately. If anyone out there is receiving an influx of extra words like "and", "the", "a", or "of", please send them back to me. Thanks.
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The fifth likes women!
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Sign Me Up
I want full publishing, distribution, licensing, performance rights, and copyright, ownership and control over every copyrighted song and video currently owned by RIAA/MPAA members. Secondly, I want full control and ownership over every patent controlled/owned by Intellectual Ventures, Kodak, Novell, Motorolla, Apple, Sun, Microsoft, etc..
When the bullshit lawsuits stop over "IP violations" and "copyright violations" (and they would because I'd own all of it) only then will I give you my signature and support.
PS: The DOJ cannot act without my permission either.
Seriously though, talk about desperation, paying people to sign in support of legislation.
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So this is ethically gray and taking music or video from its creator without compensation is cool. Right. You're not freedom fighters, not freeloaders.
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Wrong word. "Taking" implies the creator no longer has it. Copying it, or using it without permission is perfectly fine, yes.
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I was trying to be funny, but I wasn't clever enough at it for people to get the humour and laugh.
Failed.
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Nah, that can't be Dodd. He wouldn't comment anywhere that the public could respond. He stays on his nice safe MPAA blog with the comments closed.
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At least we know for certain it can't be Senator Joseph McCarthy. Last time I checked he was still dead, although I doubt that U.S. Senate rules would preclude him in voting for SOPA.
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Even if it was just a sarcastic remark, I'm sure the AC got as much of kick out of the reply as we did about their post.
Either way, I believe it can serve as an example of that Win-Win scenario people talk about.
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A fucking concept that is!
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If so, then they need to obey Federal minimum wage laws. OH! Wait! They're not.
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Buying signatures
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I'll argue that it still sounds (and is) bad even if you know that's how it's regularly done. No matter which side is doing it.
Copyright is not a typical liberal/conservative issue, as the SOPA protests demonstrated. Many issues aren't, either, but still end up covered that way, unfortunately.
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Yeah, but it sounds even worse when it's an astroturf group trying to portray itself as a grassroots organization.
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SOP for CA
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This is ripe for gaming the system:
1)Get a name generator
2)have a bunch of friends start signing those names
3)profit!
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5.5 billion?
$2500/yr?
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$2500/yr is less than $50/wk
They are just trying to hide union dues.
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job growth
On a side note, i wonder if they'll notice or care if all the petitions are filled out with random repeating garbage by people who just want the ghetto payout.
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The funny thing is that they should have done that first and saved themselves some cash. $1 x 10,000,000 voters or $1,000,000 x 60 senators, simple math.
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All i want to see
I can imagine in private Murdoch is laughing at parliament and their attempts to "investigate" his business all whilst he's bribing the prime minister to 'disappear' important evidence....
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I don't think you read that correctly
They aren't paying people for signatures according to this email, they are paying people to canvas and collect emails. There is a difference. Doing as this email says is not much different than having someone on payroll to spam the nation and get people to sign up.
If they said you are authorized to OFFER $1 to anyone that signs up then your article title would be correct. But it isn't.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to download Prometheus and burn it to a DVD...
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