Lord Finesse Learning How The Streisand Effect Works: Tons Of People Re-Upload Dan Bull's Video
from the calling-more-attention-to-it... dept
We've covered how Lord Finesse and his lawyers appear to be using copyright to stifle criticism of Finesse's lawsuit against Mac Miller, and how Dan Bull was speaking out against that kind of censorship. It's been quite clear that Finesse's main reason for issuing the takedown was to stifle the criticism, since tons of videos using the same beat remain online -- including Mac Miller's.But, of course, as we've learned over the years, when you try to stifle free speech online, a funny thing happens. It seems that plenty of people aren't at all happy about Lord Finesse's attempt to silence Dan Bull, and they're re-uploading copies of the video by the dozen. At the time I'm writing this, there are well over 100 other copies of the video uploaded. Here's just a sampling of what the search results look like:
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Filed Under: dan bull, fair dealing, fair use, lord finesse, mac miller, parody, streisand effect
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Yes. Exactly. That's a succinct (if pessimistically phrased) definition of human society itself.
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I was wondering is that, "funny Ha Ha" or "Oh god we are seriously fucked" followed by uncontrollable laughing?
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top-down no-fog i'm going with 'both' :D
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What options are there really?
You could sue, if you have standing (or even if you don't...), if you have money and/or a lawyer and/or a law degree, thus costing your target, as well as taxpayers, a lot of money.
You could threaten to sue with the purpose of trying to shut them down and/or extorting a few thousand dollars from them.
You could track them down in the real world and use armed force, which will get you assault and menacing charges and a nice stay in a Federal 'Pound Me In The Ass' Prison.
Or, you know, public shaming on the internet where people can see your words and make their own minds about whether or not they want to also publicly shame or even cease supporting Lord Finesse's work if they are currently doing so - sounds like a good idea.
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FTFY
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I agree that people shouldn't have to be shamed into behaving morally. Ideally, internal conviction should cause them to behave morally. Since you and other IP extremists have no regard for morality that doesn't work.
The legal system should not facilitate your immoral behavior. Since IP laws are immoral our legal system is also a failure.
So what's left? Public scrutiny. It shouldn't come to that but, unfortunately, it has.
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If you think that is acceptable, why not this? Is Finesse's reputation being unreasonably threatened as a result of actions he did not do?
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Mythbusters proved that bulls don't do that in the china shop.
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Video has now gone Viral.
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In order to avoid further lawsuits, including those dealing with alleged defamation I propose the said artist is to be called Lord Shampoo from now on.
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How about shorten it to "Less"?
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He looks like he probably couldn't even spell his own name if it was written in six-inch high block letters on a piece of paper in front of him. He's likely just another dumb stump in the endless line of dumb stumps that the MAFIAA pushers recruit to chew up and spit out and make a dishonest buck off. In other words: a loser - here today, gone tomorrow.
The takedown notice was filed a guy who claims to be his lawyer - his name and throwaway e-mail address are clear to see in Dan Bull's video. Maybe that's who you want to go after.
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Sounds like a very reasonable thing to do for a guy begging for attention.
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Unless you'd like to state that Mediafire has ads, in which case, you should be going after Mediafire. Not that it somehow makes your point less bullshitty.
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Technically yes, I suppose. But considering that most people seem to not only agree that those "copyright reasons" were a bunch of crap designed to silence him, but are willing to put themselves in the same danger in support of him, he may not have been wrong to do so.
"Sounds like a very reasonable thing to do for a guy begging for attention."
Begging for attention... sounds like some other people I've encountered in recent years...
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And Dan Bull doesn't have to "beg" for attention. He's already gotten it.
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So dan bull is basically giving lord censorship exactly what he wanted. Which in turn means that there is no infringement for THESE upload.
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/did not reupload the Dan bull thing
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Says who?
To actually go to the trouble of downloading the video
You mean like pasting the link into Jdownloader and chosing what quality to download?
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Its a simple operation to pull that file out of your cache and re upload. Obviously Dan uploaded it to a locker for people to download but that is not the only way to skin this cat!
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What I have learned from this so far
2. Lord Finesse, in my opinion, is a jealous douche
3. Lords lawsuit resulted in me hearing about Mac Miller
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I still ain't interested in them mind.
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Who is this Lord Clueluess and why did the queen knight him?
Many years ago some artist wrote a song which included a beat so "dope" that this Lord Clueless just HAD to RIP IT OFF...er sample it. Now Dan Bull wrote a CLEARLY PROTECTED commentary on said work using the previously mentioned STOLEN IP PROPERTY...er beat and was threatened with a lawsuit (and beating with a spaghetti noodle I hear).
Dan, go over to Kickstarter or some other fan-funded website and start a legal defense fund. I'll contribute and I don't even listen to music! Then, if Lord Clueless sues you have have money. If he doesn't you can donate it to charity....if CARREON doesn't get after you first.
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Sorry, but I get bent out of shape when people say stealing non-physical stuff.
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