Life Imitates Conan O'Brien As Samsung 'Opens Apple Store'
from the which-is-real,-which-is-o'brien? dept
Just a few weeks ago, Conan O'Brien did a satire video about the Samsung/Apple lawsuit, in which someone pretending to be a Samsung VP "defended" the company against charges of copying Apple, but everything he did, obviously, made it look like Samsung was copying Apple:I'm firmly of the belief that the whole legal fight between the two companies is silly, and that they should just compete out in the market, but you have to admit that the resemblance here is a bit uncanny.
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Sydney Central Plaza, 450 George Street, Sydney
Basically corner of Market and George.
Oh and for those wondering the Apple store in Sydney is not just around the corner it is on the SAME BLOCK and SAME STREET (George St) basically 500ft (150metres) or less from each other.
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Tech companies rarely invent new products, but instead 'rent' from other companies. They kind of have to unless they come up with original ideas.
Am I defending Apple or Samsung, no. But there are real things that Apple did with the iPhone no one had before with a smartphone. Those things may not be major (like inventing cellphone technology), but they are new original creations.
The 'rubberband effect' is one example.
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Also Samsung have less dominance in the Smartphone (and Pad) arena within Australia now than Samsung or HTC. The days of iPhone/iPad having majority market share are well and truly over here thankfully.
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Care to explain away how Samsung chose this time to OPEN a store 500ft (that's 152.4 meters to you) from an Apple store considering they are defending themselves during a US patent trial?
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You missed the point. I'm pointing out that the TIMING of the opening of that particular Samsing store is close and in parallel to the current legal battle they are engaged in with Apple.
In other words it's a mind game that Samsung is trying to play.
Now as for the trial, it's nothing more than what we US citizens call a "penis game" to see whose penis is bigger.
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No more excuses
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Sell your own innovations
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One of the things that I can easily point out that screams knockoff is that while Apple's floor staff are job titled as "Genius" and "Expert", I'll be wiilling to bet Samsung calls its floor staff "Smart Guy" and "Master".
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Yes, I also noticed those rectangular tables with round corners.
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This looks like what Best Buy is doing with their stores. The products go onto a central table to be displayed and even used in a more casual environment. They also do not have the boxes that you can pick up and take to the register, you have to ask for the boxes.
This suggests to me that this idea wasn't stolen from Apple, but created by a psychologist to help/trick people into buying more things. They may believe that a cafe style environment will relax people, and a relaxed casual shopper will buy more.
So, for my educated guess, Samsung truly didn't copy Apple. They're just trying to use mind games (just as Apple has done for decades).
And for the record, as you posted further down, Apple's tables don't have rounded corners.
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"This suggests to me that this idea wasn't stolen from Apple, but created by a psychologist to help/trick people into buying more things. They may believe that a cafe style environment will relax people, and a relaxed casual shopper will buy more."
Chronno S. Triger, you did a far better job at correcting me or at least giving me a better insight. Thank you ^_^
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Sony Style Store:
http://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://blog.socialepisodes.com/ wp-content/uploads/2009/04/sony-style-store-front1.jpg&sa=X&ei=irc3UO-GJo2e6gH7jYCQBQ&ve d=0CAwQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNF4-ZAGHqDe89XCH6C3qJMOBteFRQ
Apple Store:
http://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://www.appletruthandrumors. com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/applestoredrug.jpg&sa=X&ei=yrc3UL-mEabY6wHNyICACA&ved=0CA kQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNEgLZV8yBMFio9rqFG4BYkSpWY8Pg
Samsung Store:
http://allthingsd.com/files/2012/08/SamsungStore.jpg
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It also appears that the apple store has apple products, the samsung store, samsung products and the sony store, sony products.
Are you trying to tell me that a samsung product is exactly the same as an apple product? Why would I buy an apple product then?
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The second one is the Real one
That said, I wonder if this is not a deliberate jab from Samsung.
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Other thing it proves....
What I see it proving is that Samsung, like almost every other south east Asian company (though not as profitable), is making "competing" products that would usually cause customer confusion. I had to double take the photo shown to make sure I wasn't seeing what my brain said it was seeing....an Apple Store. There is absolutely no difference in design between the stores I might add.
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Notice Mike Mansick points out that he feels BOTH companies have been actually quite stupid in the Lawsuit....but he also sees the uncanny resemblance.
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In the same coin, Samsung claims not to be copying Apple at all and here they are opening a very closely similar, but not exactly the same store. It is to a point which BARELY skirts around becoming knockoff.
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http://www.iclarified.com/images/news/13957/48100/48100.jpg
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It's called COMPETITION! Something that a lot of American companies don't quite grasp when they get to our shores since they try to create monopolistic situations. Now I'm not saying that Apple was or wasn't but they had no claim to stop the store and absolutely have no claim based on your interpretation of passing off (knockoff).
I know you love Apple for some reason Wally and I really don't care about the brand one way or another, but don't think that just because they are close, or that they sell similar products that there is something nefarious about the whole situation.
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Neither do I actually....I needed time for my thoughts to gather.
It really is no more than a jab at Apple. Nor did I say it was illegal. But I also agree that the similarity looks uncanny, as if it were a calculated move on Samsung's part to open it up at this particular time.
Now, I don't want to be yelled at but I just want confirm the timing of Samsung applying for and receiving the permit. So if you can provide the public documents that have Samsung's application dates I would be very grateful to know the timing of permit application vs acceptance by the zoning board. That is all I request.
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If Samsung hadn't of taken advantage of Apple's current misfortunes both here and in S.E. Asia it would of been a tremendous strategic fail on Samsungs' behalf.
So the timing of the application is basically moot, and also under our laws it is irrelevant. If you want to think that Samsung is preying on Apple's weakness at this time.. so be it.. But that is just good business practice ie:survival of the strongest (as long as it's legal)
The silly part is that Apple Inc would of known about this for a long time and have done nothing whatsoever in the Australian market to negate in even the slightest bit by advertising or whatnot this new store. At there peril be it I say
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All I want to know is when Samsung applied for the lease of that spot.
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You fail to realize that Apple has done nothing about the Samsung store because it does not have to.
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I am of the opinion at this point..
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Apple hasn't filed suit over it.
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NICE!
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http://www.arnnet.com.au/slideshow/434255/pictures_samsung_opens_sydney_store_announces_ galaxy_note_10_1_launch/?image=7
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Samsung Apple Store
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Neither company in the Apple vs Samsung case have a financial risk when paying $2.5-billion US. Apple's greatest risk is NOT being able to settle. Apple tried to initiate talks with Samsung before they took their case to court. Both parties were ordered to settle before the jury trial and negotiations failed because of Samsung's stubbornness.
Samsung's market shares are not at risk. Their reputation as a valid competitor in the Smartphone/Tablet market (as opposed to being a knockoff) is at risk. So they are bound to make mistakes and legal gaffes, and making a mountain out of a mole hill.
Now we have Samsung opening a store where many devices from across the street look exactly like Apple Products and the only difference is visible difference from across the street or at a distance is in the place where the average consume never looks.....up....to see a storefront sign.
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Not In Australia they aren't. Guess where the store is
Now we have Samsung opening a store where many devices from across the street look exactly like Apple Products and the only difference is visible difference from across the street or at a distance is in the place where the average consume never looks.....up....to see a storefront sign.
Our courts and trade laws are a lot more strict then yours when it comes to passing off and false and misleading practices.. Interestingly we are actually more on the side of the consumer than in the USA that Apple just found out at there peril (4G fiasco) and that Samsung has marketed their new 4G phones (as well as HTC did) due to that.
Alsowe must have less morons in a hurry in Australia since this store is fully compliant with OUR laws no matter what Apple think or want. Remember they tried to state that one of our biggest Employers in the Supermarket/grocery chain had a similar logo to theirs (it was Green.. and still looks like a 'W') and EVERYONE including the courts thought that Apple were just being there normal ego self and told em to basically piss off (yes they lost).
Oh and as for the Apple v Samsung case in Australia.. well Samsung 1: Apple 0 at this stage of the game.
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Leader vs Follower
All this demonstrates for me, is something that I've known for a LONG time: The Asian manufacturers are good at imitation and reproduction and TERRIBLE at innovation and invention.
I suspect a cultural difference, but it would appear that Asian culture excels in areas which require structure and repetition, where Western culture seems to excel in innovation and design.
This is why I choose to buy Apple products. They are envisioned and designed by Californians, and manufactured by the Chinese. A perfect combination of Design Superiority and Manufacturing Excellence.
All lawsuits aside, I'd simply rather purchase the real McCoy from the Leader than a knock-off cobbled together by the follower.
COMBB
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As I am sure you are aware, Samsungs countersuit relates to SEPs - essential patents that would prevent the iPhone from even working.
To say the Asian manufacturers are terrible at invention when the phone you are using relies 100% on their technology is simply crazy talk. The patents Samsung hold are for real technology, not minimalist designs with shiny surfaces and rounded corners, or of visual effects that I could produce on a computer when I was 10!
None - not even a single one of Apples patents that are being fought over in this battle - would prevent a Samsung phone from working. iPhones are all pretty effects and shiny shiny. Hell, I could make a 1980's Skoda look pretty, but it would still be a crap car. Without an engine though it would be completely useless as well!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Cooper_(inventor)
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All this amounts to is two companies having a cock fight to see whose penises are bigger.
Under Steve Jobs, Apple would have settled the case by now by negotiating compensations to both parties involved that favored EVERYONE. Not very many people realize that most post 2007 iDevices carry an LG screen. That was how Steve Jobs ran Apple. He negotiated and settled licensing agreements.
Now we have Tim Cook. He decides to take the words of a man who was dying of pancreatic cancer, who at that moment had no idea what he was saying because of the pain he was in, into heart.
For those who do not know how the pancreas works. I will give you a clue....it is meant to lower your blood sugar levels and inject insulin into the system to balance the blood sugar level in your system. Job's cancer made that process go overdrive. Jobs was diagnosed in 2009. He made his infamous "Going thermonuclear" comment in 2010. When you have low blood sugar, you get REALLY cranky, irrational and have no idea what you are saying.
So really it is a "who has a bigger penis fight" between the two.
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There's a Samsung store near Vancouver
http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/personal-tech/index.html/Samsung+launches+first+N orth+American+retail+store+Burnaby+Metrotown/6913314/story.html
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Gateway
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The verdict is in...
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Shockingly
http://www.stratel.com.au/images/telstra-shop-5.jpg
http://www.clarendoncentre.com.au/ media/5945/testra%20image%20img_0041.jpg
(Telstra is one of the major telcos in Australia. They used to be shockingly expensive and unreliable but have cleaned up their act and tried to become "hip" and "trendy")
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