Can 'The Internet Vote' Be The Next Important Voting Bloc?
from the make-it-so dept
I recently talked about how the cynicism of the "internet generation" is only helping to keep broken systems in place. I recognize that many people feel that their vote is useless, and think that voting for "the lesser of two evils" is not worth it. I also have sympathy for those who argue that not voting may, in fact, be better than voting-while-uninformed. But none of that really means that votes don't matter. They absolutely do matter, in a big and important way -- especially when you can bring together a large group of people who really do understand the issues, and don't want to just get pushed around by lobbyists and crony capitalism.The folks at Fight for the Future and Personal Democracy Media have teamed up to create a website called, The Internet Votes, hoping to get more people -- especially internet savvy people -- registered to vote. They've even set up this nice widget:
Along those lines, there's an article over at HuffPo by Michael Beckerman, arguing that now is the time to make the "internet bloc" the next important voting bloc:
Campaign strategists and pundits are always trying to predict the newest or most important political demographic groups. For a long time, it was seniors. That was followed by the dawn of the "soccer mom" and lately there has been a lot of talk about "NASCAR dads." But the strongest untapped political factor these days is rarely mentioned, despite representing a force central to the lives of nearly every American -- the Internet.Indeed. Beckerman, by the way, discusses the importance of such a voting bloc in his article describing the official launch of the Internet Association, a group that we discussed -- somewhat skeptically when it was announced a few months ago. Beckerman and the folks who make up the Internet Association seem to be taking the concerns raised to heart, and have made it quite clear that a key element of its platform is to be a voice for internet users.
The three planks of the association's advocacy platform are: protecting Internet freedom; fostering innovation and economic growth; and empowering users. The unique nature of the Internet, free from government control, has unleashed unprecedented entrepreneurialism, creativity and innovation, far beyond imagination. But what about tomorrow? No one can predict what innovations will happen next. But we do know that the Internet's decentralized and open model has been the catalyst that has powered this information revolution.We've pointed out a few times that we worry when the future has no lobbyists, so as the internet itself rises up and makes itself heard, hopefully a group like the Internet Association can really help.
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Speak up
This. Vote for a 3rd party or write in someone who you really think should be elected.
When you get those (granted, annoying) political survey calls, answer them. Tell them why you're not voting for either of the major candidates. Tell them what issues matter to you.
If you want to be heard, speak up!
(Also, write in Ron Wyden for president 2012!)
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for example, last night at the end of the poll (which -as you point out- did NOT include any 3rd party choices), i was asked for my religious affiliation, they went through 9 choices which included 'none' (they don't dare say 'agnostic' or 'atheist' *gasp*), which i selected...
*then*, the next question is how much i go to church...
huh? i just told you 'none' on religion, and now you are asking how many times i go to worship at my 'none' church? ? ?
ahh, but then it gets even trickier: the first option is, 'more than once a week'; second option, 'once a week'; third option, 'once a month', and LAST option, 'less than once a month'... there was NO option for 'never', EVERYONE who responded (including this agnostic/practicing atheist) is marked down as going to church at least *some*...
fuckers...
i have heard this type of crap over and over during the 'polling' calls i get...
DON'T BELIEVE THE POLLS, they are gamed...
art guerrilla
aka ann archy
eof
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Well, never is less than once a month... kind of fishy though, they should have skipped that question for anyone who answered none to the religion one.
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Do you think charisma is what's most important in a president?
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I am really fed up with doing this.Within one or two Elections I kind of doubt I will as I should be just Voting for 3RD Party.
Sick and tired of the same old corruption and greasy palmed Politicians.
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It definitely sounds like a less controversial name that won't have voters say "They have pirate in their name, therefore they're evil."
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I'm tired of copy protection lengths lasting way way too long and something needs to be done but the problem is that there is no source of organized information on this stuff. and we need to vote for candidates who have well defined positions on these subjects ahead of time and who definitely and expressly hold the position that copy protection lengths need to be substantially reduced, the scope of what can be patented needs to be reduced, patent length needs to be reduced, etc... Any other candidate who is either ambiguous or doesn't express their position on the subject or simply doesn't actively discuss and confront the subject should not be voted for.
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For example if you are a typical liberal who is pro-choice, OK with gun control and against school prayer; will you vote for the guy who is against all of those but favors fewer limitations on the internet?
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My vote would be for
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Paul Ryan Thinks
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/251355-ryan-want-obama-reelected-then-do nt-vote-for-ron-paul
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By the same token, candidates should be held accountable for the platform they get elected by. There should be some mechanism for removal from office if an elected official changes their mind after elections. They should represent their electorate, and nobody else. They should stand by their word, and not bend to someone with a big check.
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Vote all you like, but there's a Supreme Court decision standing in your way. And are you really advocating that EFF and similar advocacy groups be denied free speech rights?
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I did not suggest that groups could not speak. I am suggesting that they should not have the right to political speech, as once again the influence of money comes into play. Think of the union member who disagrees with the unions bosses stand on any subject. Should that union boss be able to out shout the member because they have all those dues to sling around?
Political parties are all about winning, ethics or the desires of the populace be damned. They put people in office and then force those people to their will, or loose support for re-election. To them, bi-partisan is when one of the other party votes their way, and the electorate are a niggling nuisance. It is PAC money making these decisions, and issuing marching orders for their agenda.
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Freedom of speech doesn't generally limit speech based on who says it, or what banner they are standing in front of when they say it.
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I'm a bit of a procrastinator, so I probably won't start researching until just before it's time to vote, but I can tell you right now that Obama and Romney are out of the running. That is, unless Obama frees Bradley Manning from imprisonment and begs him for forgiveness while kissing his feet on national television, and/or unless Romney somehow stops being an idiot.
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Remember to take anything politicians say about themselves (or their opponents) with a grain of salt. Try to find their voting history, and be sure to check who's been giving them campaign contributions. It takes work, but I believe it's worth doing.
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I have to laugh. This comes from a guy who spent time lobbying against SOPA, working for group(s) to get this done. Come on Mike, lobbying will always exist, it's a normal state of affairs for groups who have no way to directly vote.
Now, as for the internet vote, it too is a laughable concept. They may register as voters, but they may not actually take the time to go and vote. Remember the MTV Rock the Vote thing? It doesn't really work because the youth tend to have a lack of follow through on their beliefs. It's extra hard in a two party system, because unless the youth vote has an issue or person they specifically grab onto, they don't go.
Obama did okay in that regard, because he did touch some buttons. But even then, the under 25 voter generally didn't go to the polls.
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/socdemo/voting/publications/historical/a1-presidential.jpg
This is a good graphic, because it shows how Obama seemed to drive black youth to the polls, giving them something to grasp onto that wasn't normally there for them.
However, it shows that youth is still 10 points (20%) less likely to vote than average. Not a great sign.
I would say that beyond perhaps the highlight reel Presidental election, a lot of voters tune out the rest of the message, and for younger voters, all the sundry votes that come on voting day are perhaps overwhelming and uninteresting.
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Team one wants to kidnap,torture, and murder me in a black SUV.
Team two wants to kidnap,torture, and murder me in a red SUV.
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I encourage everyone to vote, but someone like me doesn't neatly fit into an Internet vote
The issue that matters most to me is sustainability, which encompasses both the environment and economics. I'm going to be most receptive to politicians who address those issues. If a politician said his/her priority was the Internet, that honestly wouldn't matter to me. It's not a positive or a negative to me. He/she would have to either support sustainability or at least not support companies that are trying to undermine sustainability efforts in order to get my vote.
I'm just tossing that out because if someone said to me how important the Internet is, I'd probably agree but would respond that I'm much more concerned about climate change, unsustainable economic growth, rigged Wall Street, etc. For other people the key issue might be health care, or gay rights, or something else.
I suppose if your job depends on Internet freedom, then that is your primary concern, but for others, maybe not so much. It's the sort of thing where a lot of people would probably support it, but not necessarily choose a candidate primarily for that reason. It's not a passionate cause for the average person.
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Indirect democracy isn't.
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