Feds Seize Legit 49ers Merchandise, But Apparently Unconcerned About Actual Fraud In Ticket Sales

from the priorities dept

Sometime in the next few days -- perhaps Thursday or Friday -- expect that ICE and the DOJ will announce excitedly how they've seized another hundred or so websites that they'll claim were selling counterfeit NFL merchandise -- and maybe a couple sites that were planning to embed streams of the game. It's become a Super Bowl Weekend tradition because the feds have nothing better to do, apparently. Two local stories that came out this morning, however, suggest that the feds' priorities are out of whack. According to a CBS morning radio report in San Francisco, Homeland Security raided a guy selling 49ers merchandise on the street corner at a gas station. They told him that they knew he was selling counterfeit material and seized it... only to find out soon after that the merchandise was legit. Way to do your research, Homeland Security:
Meanwhile, at the same time, there was actual fraud going on, as someone who spent $5,900 on Superbowl tickets on Craigslist was scammed and sent a note that just said "Goo Ravens!!! LOL" instead.
Amazingly, the guy who sent that put a return address on the package and had spoken to the buyers a bunch on the phone. So you would think that, perhaps instead of swooping down on legitimate vendors selling legitimate goods, perhaps law enforcement could be out there arresting folks like this scammer instead. But, I guess that kind of stuff isn't as important to big companies like the NFL.
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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 29 Jan 2013 @ 8:05pm

    I'm sure Homeland Security will come up with some laws to charge the guy selling legitimate products with.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 29 Jan 2013 @ 8:05pm

      Re:

      We can't have innocent people walking the streets. It's unlawful!

      link to this | view in chronology ]

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        Ninja (profile), 30 Jan 2013 @ 2:33am

        Re: Re:

        Under current US laws everybody is a criminal.

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        • identicon
          Anonymous, 30 Jan 2013 @ 4:05am

          Re: Re: Re:

          A federal court recently sentenced a man to 3 years in prison for possession of certain cartoons. A government that imprisons people for cartoons is one that has lost all touch with reality.

          link to this | view in chronology ]

        • identicon
          Anonymous Coward, 30 Jan 2013 @ 5:12am

          Re: Re: Re:

          Except for a few, you know, job creators.

          link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 29 Jan 2013 @ 8:38pm

    DHS

    Why the hell is Homeland Security dealing with trademark issues? How did we go from fighting terrorists to protecting famous brands?

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 29 Jan 2013 @ 11:59pm

      Re: DHS

      |How did we go from fighting terrorists to protecting famous brands?

      The Golden Rule:
      Those with the gold make the rules.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 30 Jan 2013 @ 12:18am

      Re: DHS

      Same way we went from punishing dead grandmothers instead of punishing bankers that lead to financial crises.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 29 Jan 2013 @ 8:48pm

    Did they also seize his domains?

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 29 Jan 2013 @ 9:00pm

      Re:

      Nah - just his junk

      link to this | view in chronology ]

      • identicon
        Anonymous Coward, 30 Jan 2013 @ 4:54am

        Re: Re:

        Quick. Charge the agents involved with felony interference of a business model since that is now apparently a crime. Oh wait I forgot. They are the government so the laws don't apply to them.

        link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 29 Jan 2013 @ 9:05pm

    " I guess that kind of stuff isn't as important to big companies like the NFL"

    It's what ya call high priority / low priority, somewhat like high court / low court.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

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    MikeW (profile), 29 Jan 2013 @ 9:18pm

    Just imagining the conversation

    Officer 1: Hey look, that guy's selling some swag!

    Officer 2: Hey, good catch, we better confiscate it and shut him down!

    Officer 1: Why? He looks legit.

    Officer 2: He's not. I just know it.

    Officer 1: Shouldn't we...you know...check with the team first?

    Officer 2: Nah, if we're wrong, then we'll give him back his stuff and no harm no foul.

    Officer 1: Well, except for all the lost sales due to his stuff being in our warehouses.

    Officer 2: You obviously haven't been here long, or you'd know how it works.

    Officer 3: Yeah, and this is a great way to score some free gear for our kids!

    Officer 1: Ah, well, in that case, let's do this!

    (.....Much later....)

    Mike Masnick: But what about that guy who sold a fake ticket on craigslist?

    DHS: We can't go after everyone! Only those from whom we can get free swag and domains to plaster our logo on. What can we get from random craigslist dude?

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 29 Jan 2013 @ 9:20pm

    NFL gets their money whether fans get scammed or not.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 30 Jan 2013 @ 12:17am

    A fool and his money are soon parted!

    First of all she should have used a reputable escrow service, as wiring $5,900 directly to a stranger on Craigslist is DUMB DUMB DUMB.

    Secondly unless the perp is an undocumented/illegal immigrant, this whole wire fraud thing shouldn't be ICE's department. That sounds more like the FBI or Secret Service's work. Whoever takes the case I suspect we're going to hear a follow-up real soon. He's used his real name alongside the phone # and email address on other ads around the web. He seems to have been brazenly committing wire fraud via Craigslist and Ebay for the last few years and the media even questioned him before (look up "Scam Targets South Beach Spring Breakers").

    link to this | view in chronology ]

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      Ninja (profile), 30 Jan 2013 @ 2:36am

      Re: A fool and his money are soon parted!

      First point: spot on. But still a scam and thus a criminal activity that should be punished.

      Second point would be valid if they weren't doing exactly that for quite some time now. Which seemingly is not what they should be leading, at most supporting.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 30 Jan 2013 @ 5:16am

      Re: A fool and his money are soon parted!

      "Whoever takes the case I suspect we're going to hear a follow-up real soon."

      To the Ortizmobile scatman!

      link to this | view in chronology ]

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    Ninja (profile), 30 Jan 2013 @ 2:48am

    That's what happens when you allow warrantless seizures.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 30 Jan 2013 @ 2:59am

    it's so much easier to arrest an innocent person! by the time they have gotten over the shock of the arrest, been bullied into accepting a plea bargain of a gazillion years in prison instead of a treble gazillion years, all for doing absolutely nothing wrong, nothing illegal, the Feds have had what they want, ie, the glory of another terrorist plot destroyed' to worry about any backlash. and it's another place in jail that's filled!!

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 30 Jan 2013 @ 5:18am

      Re:

      and a round of drinks was had at the Private Prison board meeting ... after prayers that is.

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  • identicon
    Michael, 30 Jan 2013 @ 5:08am

    CBS News

    Can we really trust CBS news isn't just propaganda from their senior management?

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Jasmine Charter, 30 Jan 2013 @ 5:56am

    I feel safer

    These bozo's are "supposedly" the ones in charge of keeping terrorists from blowing things up.

    If they screw up on this... I feel SOOO much safer about terrorists!

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 30 Jan 2013 @ 6:39am

    Wait, what, uh... DHS? Pardon me?

    There was a question a while back regarding what exactly, DHS' mandate was. No one had a good answer. Most of us were sort of assuming it had something to do with something that wasn't expertly (and in some cases I use that term loosely) covered by the police, fbi, cia, nsa, tsa, atf, (did I forget any acronyms?) customs, or military - perhaps "domestic counter terrorism" or some similar political buzzphrase like that, that's already covered by the above acronyms.

    We were clearly wrong; their mandate is to act as counterfeit police. They do not seem very good at it, so we can only assume they need more funding.

    Can someone please convinve the US government right now, that DHS has no actual functions beside hemmoraging money and harrassing people?

    No? How about now then?






    ..now?

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  • icon
    Miff (profile), 30 Jan 2013 @ 7:59pm

    Sweet

    I guess selling fake super bowl tickets is legal now.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 31 Jan 2013 @ 4:46pm

    If you are going to "rag" upon the DHS, then at least take the time to learn about its various agencies, i.e., Coast Guard, Immigration and Naturalization, Customs, Secret Service, etc.

    Its org chart can be found at:

    http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/dhs-orgchart.pdf

    link to this | view in chronology ]


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