Next Ridiculous Idea To Stifle Online Speech: Irish Senator Says You Should Have To Pay To Post Online
from the where-do-they-find-these-people? dept
There's a lot of hand-wringing and moral panics around "anonymous commenters" online supposedly saying all sorts of nasty stuff. Of course, as we've discussed, some of the best comments in our own discussions seem to come from anonymous commenters. Yes, some leave some crazy comments, but anonymity by itself is not the problem so many people think it is. Still, an Irish Senator, Eamonn Coghlan, thinks that the way to deal with online commenters he doesn't like is to make them all pay to post any commentary online. Specifically, he apparently suggested that "the issue of anonymity" could be solved by "getting people to pay to post on social media websites or [to] register their passport numbers for IP addresses." Because I'm sure that will really help build out the internet, when everyone has to think about whether their latest communication to a family member is worth the money.
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... so people (like Eamonn Coghlan) who attack the internet become unelectable.
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Pay Who?
It's one thing to even think that people should pay to post online, but who would receive the payment? Nevermind not even having a clue how the internet works. Sites that want to charge you to post, already can!
Maybe we would need a new collection society?
Not paying for your online posts devalues those posts!
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I've got serious trolling to do
said the Tech Dirt troll out of the blue
It's my business model
To spew so much twaddle
But of value, I haven't a clue
To be a professional shill
It's my lifelong ambition and skill
Even though I'm well paid
I still can't get laid
So my trolling's the next closest thrill
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There have been far too many new taxes introduced on already struggling families.
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The Irish Senate is not like the US Senate.
He's a sportsman who was appointed into a position effectively in honour of his sporting achievement, he really can't be expected to make sense on anything other than sporting issues.
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Paying for Post
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He's an appointee and he was appointed due to his relative success in Athletics, 3 time olympian and a former world champion at his distance. His primary purpose is to be a voice in the Senate on sports related issues, although he can speak on anything he likes.
We just shouldn't expect him to necessarily make much sense on issues unrelated to his field of expertise.
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We already pay to get online - this guy thinks it is free?
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Signed, America
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Can't blame him, I guess
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Eamon Coghlan is just ignorant and fearful so stop getting yourself worked up.
But if you guys in the US could stop your government putting loads of pressure on other governments around the world that would be swell.
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TANJ-it! (there ain't no justice) Larry Niven.
-throws a 10 pence in the swear box-
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people need to pay for most forms of communication (telephone call, letter, text- none are free) therefore people need to think about what they say. therefore, charging per post on the internet would have a similar effect, making people think about if it is really worth it.
stupid, but there is some logic to it.
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When theres serious trolling to do,
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Give them some paper, crayons and string and they'll be happy all afternoon.
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Remember, the 12.5% example above is assuming that 35 out of the 40 people you send your email to will do absolutely nothing except delete your email. However, if you follow the plan correctly and send your emails only to people who are likely to want to participate, you can expect a typical response-rate of around 25%. Hence, the 12.5% example is only given as a worst-case-scenario. Additionally, the above example assumes that each participant will only send out 40 emails. Imagine what would happen if each participant sent out 1,000 emails instead of just 40! Believe me, many people will do this and much more!
Consider this! Millions of people surf the Internet every single day, all over the world! Plus there are 50,000 new people who get on the Internet every month! The people who send you offers by email can provide you with an excellent source of bulk email addresses to send to. You can also send out emails to all of your family, friends, and to anyone who you think would want to invest £3 and 30 minutes of their time to make a substantial lump sum within a month. If you want to operate this business continuously, you should consider obtaining bulk lists of email addresses from a reputable mailing list company. That's how I've managed to stay in business for the last 2 years! If you already have a legitimate mailing list, then this program would be the most profitable way to make use of it. There are many websites that sell thousands of fresh opt-in email addresses of people who have subscribed to receive exactly this type of program. For example, visit:htmail.com, BusinessMailing.co.uk and Email2Success.com. The possibilities are endless, and it's so easy!
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Remember, you need only mail out 40 copies to start with. This will be enough to generate a substantial lump sum within 30 days. For example, send to personal contacts and reply to people who send their programs to you, as they are already working on the web. They know these programs work and they are already believers in the system! This is NOT considered SPAM if you are responding to other people's offers, or sending to friends, family and contacts, or if you are using a legitimate mailing list.
So, email your letters out today, and then prepare yourself for a huge influx of cash within the next 30 days!!!
4 factors that make this program so successful. . .
EXTREMELY FAST RESPONSE
EXTREMELY HIGH RESPONSE RATE
UNLIMITED PROFIT POTENTIAL
QUICK, SIMPLE AND CHEAP TO GET STARTED
Because of the VIRTUALLY ZERO INVESTMENT, SPEED, and HIGH PROFIT POTENTIAL, this program has a VERY HIGH RESPONSE RATE! And all from just a simple email and one simple £3 PayPal transaction! In fact, this program has faster results and a higher response rate than any other Internet program you could possibly participate in! For most email marketing campaigns, the average response rate is between 0.5% and 5%. However, this particular program typically generates a response rate of between 20% and 30%. This is because this program is so easy to implement, it costs next to nothing, it takes just 30 minutes to implement, and the results can be seen within days.
I've been watching this type of MLM program for years and this is about as easy and fast as you can get it. No stamps, no envelopes, no printed copies to be made - just a little effort and faith!!! This program really keeps it "short and simple"!
UNLIMITED income potential!
This program is structured for everyone to send only 40 emails each to start. However, you are certainly not limited to 40. Send out as many emails as you want. Every 40 emails you send has a return of AT LEAST £10,000 WITHIN 30 DAYS. So, if you can email 50, or 100, or whatever, GO FOR IT! THE MORE YOU PUT INTO IT, THE MORE YOU GET OUT OF IT!
However, you MUST remember that sneaking your name higher up on the list will NOT produce the results you think, and it only cheats the other people who have put in the effort and have earned the right to be there. So please, play by the rules and the serious money will come to you!
You are probably skeptical of this, especially with all the different programs out there on the Web, but if you don't try this you will never know. I felt exactly the same as you probably do right now. I wanted to believe but i just couldn't help thinking that there was some sort of catch. But then I realized that I had absolutely nothing to lose. After all, I was only being asked to invest a measly £3, and yet I could earn many thousands of pounds within a month. And all for just half an hour of my time! Therefore I went ahead and did exactly as the email requested. This took me around 30 minutes in total, and I'm so, so, glad I did that!
To get started, just click on the link below:
https://www.paypal.com
But please play by the rules! This program doesn't cost anything but £3 and about half an hour of your time, and if everyone plays fair, everyone WINS!!
So there it is. You now have the knowledge that will enable you to make over £10,000 within the next few weeks. The only thing that can hold you back now is a lack of faith or a lack of self-belief. However, any doubts you may currently have will disappear within a few days of putting this plan into practice. Trust me on this! You certainly won't regret it.
Some notes from the PayPal site which you may find useful
PayPal lets you pay anyone with an email address and is the world's Number 1 online payment service. PayPal is accepted on over 3 million eBay auctions as well as a countless number of online shops. You can also use PayPal to pay your friends - for example, it's a convenient way to split the phone bill with your room-mate, send cash to your kids in college, or send cash to someone in another country.
When you send money through PayPal, you can fund your payments with your credit card or cheque account. You won't have to worry about your privacy, because PayPal keeps your accounting information safe and secure. Making a purchase with PayPal is far more secure than mailing a cheque or giving your credit card number to a stranger. That's why over 9 MILLION people from around the world use PayPal to move money. Signing up for a PayPal account is free, easy, and it takes only a couple of minutes.
Thank you, and good luck in your ventures
P.S. Does this sound too good? Well maybe to some skeptics it is. But it actually works, and is worth the 30 minutes of your time now. So, just make a nice cup of tea and get started on it now. After all, you can't lose, but you stand to gain more in the next few weeks than many people earn in a year!
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Congrats!
Your suggestion can actually make better use of your campaign money. Congrats!
Regards,
(oops, I didn't sign out 1st...)
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