Oh Look, The Number Of People Employed In The Movie And Music Recording Business Just Hit An All Time High
from the but-jobs-jobs-jobs! dept
The common refrain coming out of the MPAA and RIAA over the past few years has really focused on "jobs, jobs, jobs!" This is a message that often works with Congress. If you can convince Congress that "jobs" are at risk, they go scrambling to protect those jobs, even if the economy would be much better off with obsolete jobs going away, and better jobs taking their place. That said, the MPAA and RIAA have a long history of making up ridiculous claims about the number of people employed in their industries, as well as the number of supposed "lost jobs." So it's rather noteworthy to see that the good folks over at ZeroHedge have pointed out that, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), jobs in the motion picture and sound recording industries hit an all time high in December.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Just think, if it weren't for piracy, everyone would probably be employed in the music industry.
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"Do you listen to music at work? Yes? Then you have a job in the music industry!"
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http://blog.ted.com/2012/03/20/the-numbers-behind-the-copyright-math/
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I would have expected job increases, and that's exactly what happened.
Is Mike Masnick complaining about these jobs because his theories have been proven incorrect?
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Also, might wanna be a little careful with the 'increase in jobs is due to increase in piracy crackdowns', given that pretty much each peak in that chart is almost immediately followed by a massive drop, often ending up lower then when it started.
Much more likely, is that the peaks are when a big movie is being filmed, with a lot of jobs needed, increasing in needed manpower as things get closer to being done, and the following drop is when suddenly those people aren't needed anymore, and are let go.
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That comment would be less risible if piracy rates had actually dropped as a result of the "enforcement." It hasn't.
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So doesn't that mean piracy is good then because it creates jobs just as you predicted?
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You don't get it
Kind regards,
Big Greedy Media LLC.
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According to OOTB
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Re: According to OOTB -- you're close enough.
THANKS for the advance notice and for joining my clone army by putting up a post close enough to what I was going to. You fanboys WILL eventually share my views, even if you don't wish to, because I'm aligned with common law, common sense, current legalities, and practical facts.
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Flawed logic by OOTB again!
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Flawed logic by OOTB again!"
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How can that be when Mega strongly disavows piracy? :
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/20/mega_launch_fail//
'Clause 19 makes it plain Mega is a no-dodgy-files zone, stating "You are strictly prohibited from using our services to infringe copyright. You may not upload, download, store, share, display, stream, distribute, e-mail, link to, transmit or otherwise make available any files, data, or content that infringes any copyright or other proprietary rights of any person or entity."'
Looks like piratey AC is mistaken about the new Mega.
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That has to be a record for the most amount of fail in a single sentence.
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It may be nice to be so blissfully ignorant of reality, but whatever he is smoking also seems to have the side effect of bringing one to an arrogance that you know that everyone should believe in your logic no matter how flawed it may be.
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Where's an economist to analyze whether these are full-time?
For example, as a cost-saving measure, many of these are likely to be part-time jobs -- not least because of Obamacare not covering part-time employees -- so while raw NUMBER may be increased, payroll and amount of total work hours may not have.
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Person 1: 'What was that?!'
Person 2: 'That was the sound of the goalposts being moved quick enough to cause a sonic boom.'
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*WHOOOSH!* *BOOM!*
Person 1: 'What was that?!'
Person 2: 'That was the sound of the goalposts being moved quick enough to cause a sonic boom.'
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You write so stoopidly that it's unclear whether you agree with me or not, but at a hazard I'll guess that you don't. -- Ever look beyond end of your nose? Are you such a dolt as can't grasp that one number doesn't tell the whole story? Have you noticed that the weight of product in potato chip bags has gone down while price per bag stays the same? So long as you get a bag, it's all the same, right?
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Said comment being written by someone who does exactly the same in what he writes, now that is priceless!
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Said CLICHE being written by an AC, now that is VALUELESS.
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Which makes said comment by OOTB even VALUELSS.
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And you spell stupidly.
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For example, as a cost-saving measure, many of these are likely to be part-time jobs -- not least because of Obamacare not covering part-time employees -- so while raw NUMBER may be increased, payroll and amount of total work hours may not have.
Almost every job in the film industry is part-time. Workers move from project to project. Virtually none are employed by the same company year round.
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Re: Where's an economist to analyze whether these are full-time?
Actually, no, boy.
Most jobs in the entertainment industry are short-term, running from a day to a week to a complete season of production.
Once an assignment is done, the workers move on.
That includes actors, writers, artists, construction workers, etc.
Only executives and senior studio personnel have full-time jobs.
It has nothing to do with Obamacare.
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and it was like that since ... forever
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A bunch of short term jobs as people go from one movie to the next, and some seasons are busier for movie and music making then others?
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Flawed logic by OOTB yet again!
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Speaking of the music business and highs...
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/04/adam-levine-drugs-video/
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Must include zero
The rule is - if the graph doesn't seem to show anything interesting when the axis includes zero, then the data is not that interesting to begin with.
Cropping the graph and therefore exaggerating it, just makes it seem like a lie.
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Or is that what you're saying? Comparing it from 405,000 to 0 would make it seem like piracy has done diddly squat to harm jobs.
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Geeze no wonder the job count is at a record high.
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Ahem. No surprises, right?
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Misreading
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