Comcast's Top Lobbyist Pens Editorial To Remind Americans That US Broadband Service Is Awesome
from the statistics-currently-enjoying-a-deep-tissue-massage dept
We live in a nation of wondrous technological advancement, where our average broadband speed and super low prices are the envy of the world, And if Google shows up to throw fiber around, the local citizenry simply shrugs its shoulders in indifference. Life is good... especially if you're paid to believe it is.
Karl Bode at Broadband Reports points us in the direction of a ridiculous "op-ed" piece written for the Philadelphia Inquirer by David Cohen, lobbyist and policy man for Comcast. It's filled with relentless, self-serving optimism and features Cohen's miraculous ability to take mediocre broadband statistics and transform them into "proof" of American superiority.
After cherry picking and massaging statistics to an almost painful degree, Cohen takes a little shot at Google Fiber, insisting that users don't really need 1 Gbps.Consumers are demanding faster speeds, though. This is why services like Google Fiber
"For some, the discussion about the broadband Internet seems to begin and end on the issue of "gigabit" access. To be sure, a one-gig connection has value, especially for those who have invested in "inside" networks and equipment to handle that 1-gigabit firehose of data.
The issue with such speed is really more about demand than supply. Our business customers can already order 10-gig connections. Most websites can't deliver content as fast as current networks move, and most U.S. homes have routers that can't support the speed already available to the home. As consumer demand grows for faster speeds, a competitive marketplace of wired and wireless broadband providers will be ready to serve it."
Cohen claims that 82% of Americans have access to wired high-speed Internet access of speeds exceeding 100 Mbps. But these services, provided in 85% of the country by only the local cable incumbent (the large cable companies never enter each others’ territories, and Verizon FiOS is available to just 15% of the country) are extraordinarily expensive: Comcast charges $114.95 per month for 105 Mbps download services. In Seoul, you can get symmetrical 100 Mbps (equal upload and download) access for $30/month, and there are three or four competitive choices.So, it's not really a question of need. Most consumers won't fully utilize a gigabit connection. But, they will have faster service at a lower price, and that's what really matters. What Google's entrance into the market does is add some real competition, rather than the cooperation and collusion that has masqueraded for years as "competition."
By focusing on whether you need 1 Gbps, companies like Time Warner Cable and Comcast hope to steer the conversation away from how a lack of competition allows them to offer slow speeds and ever-higher prices (or the fact they're being outclassed in their own industry by a search engine)...Cohen's article paints a broadband picture so rosy one almost expects a "sponsored content" banner to be flying above it. He even takes a moment towards the end to bash the broadband industry's (many) critics.
If the United States leads in anything in the broadband sector -- it's the use of denial and distortion by those with a vested interest in protecting the status quo. If you can convince people that everything is fine, nobody tries to fix things and your profit margins as a predatory, lumbering duopoly benefiting from regulatory capture remain high. You can legitimately argue that things are improving in many regions -- but to insist the United States is the global broadband leader is an obnoxious level of hubris, even for Comcast.
Today there is a cottage industry of critics who always want to tell us that our broadband Internet is not fast enough or satisfactory for one reason or another. The reality is that the United States is leading the way in speed, reach, and access - and doing so in a vast, rural nation that poses logistical connectivity challenges unlike any other country.As Bode pointed out, a strain of hubris runs through Cohen's piece, but here it comes to a head. Comcast itself has MANY critics but Cohen acts as though the negative attention is undeserved. This "cottage industry" exists in part to battle the kind of misinformation Cohen and his cohorts portray as "facts." His attempt to belittle broadband critics as some sort of self-interested fringe "industry" is where his hubris comes to a head. It's obviously more than that if Cohen feels the need to tout his industry's "stellar" service via a major newspaper.
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Really?
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-internet-access-in-america-disaster/
Granted, that was from 2 years ago, but I'm pretty sure that most of it still applies today.
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That's very good. I don't think I have ever cracked that.
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Perhaps next year, Comcast can (and should) take the #1 spot.
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Step 1: Take the current "awesome and amazing, no need for improvement" data and price rates.
Step 2: Adjust them to the rates from 10 years ago.
Step 3: Debunk.
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Last I checked, I think it was something like 258 million out of 315 million of the US population was living in urban areas. So...how is the US a rural nation again?
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Yet another horse and buggy maker trying to fight against the future...
To think if we took the money we handed out to make sure everyone in the country was connected and used a group not selling anything but their ability to lay cable we'd have the country covered by now.
Maybe to secure the future of the country we need to stop letting those stuck in the past have control.
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I think it is that they have a vast misunderstanding of the logical ring topology Google is using to distribute their bandwidth...and what is funny is that none of the consumers of the project even realize how a fiber optic ring network really works.
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Oh and their boost, not even noticeable for most people.
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Googles internet is the standard that is needed for creating some inventions on the internet. That the end-users do not want to pay is irrelevant as such.
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What weirds me out about these statements against facts is that they are so easily to disprove, I wonder what they were thinking.
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Google has advised they are moving all over the country and yes they are only creating fiber-hoods where they see a possibility of huge profits, but this is the same areas that the big three are ignoring, if they are correct in their thinking then Google will go bankrupt , if they believe their lies then they are going to go bankrupt. Personally i would rather invest in Google than any of the other big providers as their plans seem to be much much better than anything the others can offer at the same price.
And one thing that is relevent more than any other is that
Google is growing as the others sit stagnant fighting amongst themselves for the same customers as Google takes all the customers in an area as soon as they offer their service.
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Meet David Cohen: professional liar
Meanwhile, my neighborhood has two choices: Verizon DSL (it will never have FIOS) and Comcast. They both suck. They're both expensive. They both feature illiterate, incompetent tech support staffed by ignorant morons who don't speak English. They both screw with users' traffic.
Not that I'm a fan of Google (and their legendary lack of support), but if they dropped in here I would sign up instantly. How could it POSSIBLY be any worse?
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I'd really like to view a youtube video, but in most cases it's quicker to drive to the big city where they got all that internets people complain about being slow because they had to wait 5 seconds to watch an hd movie via Netflix. I'm probably the only person in America that still have movies mailed to them. I'm sure some guy at netflix somewhere is like "Ah damnit, got to mail A.C. his next "Quantum Leap" as he quietly grumbles to himself while smoking a cigarette on his way to drop my envelope in a mailbox somewhere.
So. Could be worse.
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NIce of him to tell us what we need.
In some ways, he is kinda correct, as many people don't really need 1 Gbps. However, he is completely missing the point. The fact that we want 1 Gbps service is why his company will continue to loose more and more customers.
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Re: NIce of him to tell us what we need.
1. People don't need 1Gbps broadband because there are no services that can take advantage of it.
2) Companies haven't created services needing 1Gbps broadband because nobody has a 1Gbps broadband connection in order to take advantage of it.
The 1Gbps broadband infrastructure has to be built first. Do that and offer it at prices most people can actually afford (less than $100 per month) and try to get the service into as many households as possible as quickly as possible and new services will spring up quickly afterwards that utilize all the available bandwidth.
The truth of the matter is, these incumbent broadband providers don't want to offer symmetrical 1Gbps service anywhere because there aren't willing to charge Google like prices for it. They much prefer their high profit margin existing services with ridiculous caps, throttling and overage fees.
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I sure don't need gigabit. Have15Mb, but just one would do fine.
But minion portrays the sitch as desperate and backward.
Now let's look at the real payload of this article: GOOGLE WORSHIP. "What Google's entrance into the market does is add some real competition," -- BALONEY! Google is actually getting subsidized by gov't, NOT competing in a free market, as in this sweet deal where taxpayers are already out $35 million for infrastructure:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/19/google_fiber_provo_one_dollar/
And of course the KC case included subsidies.
Besides that, advantage of coming in late (with lots of easily gotten untaxed cash too) is that all basic development costs were paid off long ago -- and now Chinese hardware is abundant and dirt cheap -- so that Google can sweep in and take over as a monopoly, cheered on by fanboys like minion here.
Rest is just minion is railing for the hell of it, as typical of fanboys here.
Take a loopy tour of Techdirt.com! You always end up same place!
http://techdirt.com/
Every "new business model" here requires first getting valuable products -- a whole town of cable network -- for free (or a dollar at most).
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Re: I sure don't need gigabit. Have15Mb, but just one would do fine.
You heard it here folks. out_of_the_blue doesn't need it, so no one else does.
/sarc
Now listen here bluey. You don't need it, but I certainly do. For 90% of the time, my connection lies mostly unused. But when I need to stream videos or download a big chunk of data, I want to have that speed available. I don't want to wait 3 hours to download a Debian DVD that could be downloaded in 15 minutes to find out that I downloaded the wrong architecture so I'm going to have to download a whole new ISO again (yes, this has happened to me. Yes, I am a moron...). I don't want to wait. That's why I pay for the privilege of having a 100MBps connection.
And boy, do I pay for it. The ISP isn't complaining about that extra cash either.
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Shut up, Cathy. You're bitter and miserable, and want everyone else to be, too.
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Also, TheRegister is a tabloid. Please find reputable sources for your info.
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I trust more a company that will spy, sell my info and only God knows more what, than I trust you and your pals.
The only people more loathed than cable/telco/MAFIAA may be only pedophiles.
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Ignore the future and it will go away right? Who needs the future when the present is good enough.
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I'm pretty sure that in 10 years, cat videos will be holovids and reality simulators too. I watched an HD cat video a while back, so as people start buying cheap HD cameras, they start using them to video cats. I'm sure that will be true with holovids and reality sims too.
Of course, the internet is still about catvids, and I suspect that won't ever change.
So hopefully one of the old guard will step forward and offer a nice premium feature to downgrade cat videos for blue so he can watch them on his 20 year old computer when the time comes.
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Besides, what about upload speeds? I find myself now worrying more about what my upload speed is. I want to upload 720p/1080p and eventually 4K videos to Youtube and not have to wait all bloody night for a single video. I want to have group video calls through VoIP. I want to capture gameplay footage and do livestreaming. All of which can't be done if internet speeds aren't continually raised.
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so that Google can sweep in and take over as a monopoly, cheered on by fanboys like minion here."
So you're cursing Google for being government subsidized and trying to be an internet monopoly...without mentioning that in most areas of the US, that's already happened with the incumbents. Most if not all the other ISPs, Comcast, AT&T etc, got subsidies and have a de facto monopoly in many cities.
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> $35 million for infrastructure
The deal where Google is taking over an aging, unfinished, unprofitable, money-pit from the city? Investing $18 million plus the cost to connect the remaining 2/3 of homes in the town? That deal? All investments Google won't be able to take with them if they decide to pack up and move out. OK, so the taxpayers invested $35 million already, but seeing as the project was bleeding money, and is in need of an upgrade they were about to be out even more. Now Google will be footing the bill. Would you prefer those taxpayers let their $35 million rot in the ground? Or be on the hook for all the upgrades as well? You're right it does sound like a sweet deal...for the city and taxpayers.
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Asynchronous DSL on the other hand intermittently sends and receives data on a turn basis. This allows for faster download speeds because the stream of data flow is not required to go both ways all the time.
The more upload speed you have relative to the download speed, the lower your download speed gets because more traffic is being sent through the wire in the opposite direction. If we increase the downstream speed we can then increase the upload speed.
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Google's topology is in no way modern or new and would normally fit into the category of an OC2 connection standard in terms of speed.
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Yeah, that logic really applies.
Do you masturbate over $100 million movies, too?
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It is because those are based on standard phone transmissions...DSL users are using JR11 phone cables to connect to their homes. They are not as durable or as shielded as Coaxial or Cat 5 and higher Ethernet cables. Hence the signal derogation.
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I don't think he was giving the REAL reasons that those in the IT business see every day. He blamed his cruddy service on a cash grab when in reality it was the wires used to connect him to the internet.
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Since when have you become a metric for anything else but idiocy?
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The internet would not be the place it is today without a continual rise in data transfer rates. Anyone telling you that what we have is good enough is a bold faced liar who deserves to be called out on it by the world as a whole. By saying that speeds are fine and we don't need anything faster is to flat out deny progress and to flat out deny historical facts.
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yay
U S A
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Only in the USA would 28th place get a non-sarcastic congratulatory award.
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One thing to note about Google Fiber Optics..
Standard RG59 and RG6 coaxial connections have a top speed of 54 Megabits per second. The good things is that you can get more bandwidth with two modems on two separate lines...but that is still quite expensive on the consumer side of things. It should never be about cost and it should only be about what the current infrastructure is capable of.
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I can't tell if you are intentionally being misleading since you've posted the same nonsense everywhere, or if you actually believe what you are typing.
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Yes, if you have sub-par cabling over extended distances, it can (and will) cause problems. But who's going to run a gigabit network over one cable for more then 328'?
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I think that is where I went wrong...
The issue is that the modem Google deploys is not an MSAU...it is a standard router that uses copper cable to connect to the MSAU box that is located to provide your neighborhood with the service if anyone else chooses to opt in.. The MSAU is a part of a ring topology that allows you to connect to other rings. The reason Fiber optic networks require a ring topology is that light photons can be pushed in only one direction...I cannot remember what it is called, but to get around that you use an MSAU to connect to an inner ring in case one of the nodes goes bad. In Google's case the MSAU is used to transmit that data from the ring they set up to the MSAU to the modem/router they give you to connect to the internet.
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Hold on. There's two ways to interpret this. One is absolutely wrong, the other is intentionally misleading.
First, if he's talking about the additional router or wireless router most people have to connect multiple devices, he's flat out wrong. The ones that aren't gigabit have 100Mb/s ethernet ports. As far as wireless, even if they're the old 802.11a/b spec, they can handle 54Mbit/s. And since the average broadband speed (either by what they're paying for, or what is actually delivered) is lower than that, he's flat out wrong. As far as the 105MBit/s down that Comcast offers in some locations, well, few people see that rate in reality, so no, it's still not "available" in their homes.
Alternatively, he might be referring to the router functionality built into most cable modems. The problem with that is that he's the guy writing for the company that supplied most of them. Sure, people can buy their own cable modems, but the average user (not most Techdirt readers) doesn't. Last I looked, Comcast was the biggest cable operator, so they're the one that likely supplied the most.
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Did I ever say network??? I was talking about the installation of the fiberoptic connection to your house. That has nothing to do with installing a netowrk in your house.
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You do this so often, change the subject mid conversation, that I'm having a hard time believing it's not intentional at this point.
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At least Time Warner isn't doing Six Strikes on their customers....Oh and I hate to burst your theory on growth..but the actual physical limitation of the coaxial cable for an ADSL connection through an RG6 or RG59 cables is limited to about 54 megabits per second every 100 meters....in my neighborhood, there is a cable box every 50 meters to keep the demand up. Each user has their own connection like cable tv so there is no interference. The maximum speed for a home connection is 50 megabits because you have to balance the upstream out so it doesn't create a traffic problem through your line.
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By equipment investment does he mean an ordinary router? Mine has four gigabit ports. Saturating a gigabit connection with multiple devices isn't even hard...
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No. Just no. First, no photons ever touch your wires.
Second, even if they did for some mysterious reason, the provider would have to be using an insanely powerful laser for it to cause any damage whatsoever.
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And what about people like me who don't allow ping traffic at all past my firewall?
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Now don't get me wrong here. 100 megabits is quite a fast in a synchronous connection...but Google is advertising 1Gigabit...and that really only depends on how far away you are from the nearest MSAU.
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I don't know the details of what Google's using, but bidirectional fiberoptics have been around for a good long while.
Not necessarily. It all depends on the specifics of the system and installation.
The Big Win of fiber isn't really raw transmission speed (and, in fact, you can come surprisingly close to fiber speeds using copper). It's the ability for a single cable to carry thousands of independent data streams for a very long distance without signal loss (relative to copper).
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Even still, the only way Wally's point would matter is if the intranet connecting to the Google router was itself a token ring. I don't see this as a likelihood -- why would Google require their customers run a token ring network (and purchase specialized hardware) when nearly all commodity hardware and software is designed for ethernet?
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Best analogy I can come up with is that phone companies that offer DSL or ADSL use fiber optics to transmit data over vast distances between various switchback stations. To locally connect users, they have to use the local copper phone lines set up by their own infrastructure. All Google has done is make the local connection to the switchback station a direct connection rather than connecting you to switch boards. Google's fiber connection is tapped into by the same switching methods phone companies use to connect to the switchbacks and it is done via the MSAU.
The MSAU by design is supposed to allow a pass-through of transmitted data in case one of the nodes goes out on a Ring Topology. You turning off your node (computer or modem take your pick) has no affect on the neighborhood. If it did, then it would a Token Ring network.
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*much faster
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https://fiber.google.com/about/poles/
Because I think you are drunk.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_optical_network
http://gigaom.com/2012/08/01/google-f iber-check-out-the-in-home-set-up-and-equipment/
https://sites.google.com/site/amitsciscozone/home/ gpon/gpon-fundamentals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.984
ONU != MSAU
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_network_unit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Access _Unit
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Yes, but that can only measure the length of the cable from the ISP's "modem" to your switch. It can't measure the totla length of cable in your lan.
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Seriously i have a 2Mbps Internet connection via ADSL2+ due to distance from the exchange. In other words very borderline to work at all.
Yet i have well over 100m of Internal LAN.
The length of my LAN has absolutely nothing to do with the length of my phone line.
Google Fibre uses GPON i believe which has some limited ring properties on the local section.
At the home level the Fibre terminates at the box on the wall thats owned by the network provider.
That box has Ethernet connections you can run to your local network.
One of these Ethernet links will be your active Internet connection that you run to a Router (or computer acting as a router).
Google (or your provider) sees you router. After that they dont give a flying fuck whats on the other side. Its all your gear.
On the LAN side of the router you can run whatever cables and switches you like it doesnt affect google.
LAN cables come in different categories. For example i use a mix of Cat6 and Cat6e for runs.
Cat6 for example is considered good for 100m at 1Gbps while Cat6a should be able to carry 10Gbps at that range.
Thats per cable length by the way not total length of all cables. Just point to point. Stick a switch in between 2 100m segments and you should be able to maintain the switchs speed.
Cat7a and Cat8 specs are reasonably sorted and can do up to 40Gbps at 50 and 100m ranges. Still using the same (extremely similar and plug into the same sockets) connectors we all know so well from cat5 cable most people use.
So no Wally over 100m total of cable should not limit anyone to 100Mbps. Your talking out your ass here.
This stuff was well discussed when people were trying to claim Australia's NBN wasnt technically possible. It was debunked badly then that consumer gear for networking wasnt capable of such speeds...
In the end ours was killed by politicians. Ideology and big bribes from big media FTW right......
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Case study: See Google Fiber vs. Comcast Xfinity.
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20480KB / (128KB/SEC) = 160 S
= 2 minutes 40 seconds
in 30 minutes you could download 225MB
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