Researcher Tries To Connect Violence And Video Games During Murder Trial; Gets Destroyed During Cross Examination

from the 3-Mortal-Kombat-saves?-thank-god-this-'killer'-is-no-longer-walking-free dept

Violence and violent video games still remain connected in the eyes of many despite a lack of supporting evidence. When an act of violence occurs, the more horrific it is, the more certain it is that people will try to connect the two. We've seen it happen time and time again.

A recent murder trial used this "connection" in the accused's defense, but with a twist. Instead of using violent video games as a scapegoat to help defray the culpability of their client ("video games made him do it"), the defense team used it to portray one of the victims as a violent person motivated by violent video games.

Illinois man Chris Beason was accused of the murder of five members of his ex-wife's family -- parents Ruth and Raymond "Rick" Gee, Rick's 22-year-old son Austin and Ruth's two children, 14-year-old Dillen and 16-year-old Justina. Beason also severely beat the Gee's three-year-old daughter, but she survived. Things looked bad for Beason, who went on trial facing an uphill battle against a ton of forensic evidence and damning testimonies provided by a former cellmate and his own brother.

So, Beason went in a wholly unexpected direction, claiming that he was walked in on a murder-in-progress, perpetrated by Dillen, and had to kill the 14-year-old in self defense.

The defense tried to paint the victim (who was bludgeoned to death) as an anti-social at-risk teen whose rage and anger was exacerbated by playing video games. This, the defense argued, led to Dillen killing his entire family on the night of September 29, 2009 - which Harris claimed to have walked into in progress.
The defense called in an "expert" (you'll see why the quotes are attached as this unfolds) to support its theory that Dillen's video game habits had turned him into a murderer.
To drive this angle home, the defense called Iowa State University professor and researcher Craig Anderson. On May 28 he testified about a report he created for the case based on documents sent to him by the defense.
Those of you familiar with Craig Anderson's video game research will see where this is going. Those who aren't, prepare to meet the man most likely to take Jack Thompson's place as the shrill voice of video game hysteria.

To set the stage, here are a few quotes (by others in the research field) on Anderson and his "research."

In reference to a 2008 study of his that "linked" video games to violence in the US and Japan:
In the literature review the authors suggest that research on video game violence is consistent when this is hardly the case. The authors here simply ignore a wide body of research which conflicts with their views...

[Prof. Christopher Ferguson's] paper claims that Anderson’s study “included many studies that do not relate well to serious aggression, an apparently biased sample of unpublished studies, and a 'best practices' analysis that appears unreliable and does not consider the impact of unstandardized aggression measures on the inflation of effect size estimates.”

I would certainly say there's an agenda here... what Craig Anderson argues in his paper, he then goes into describing youth violence, talking about how serious a public concern youth violence is. [But] He doesn't measure youth violence in his study. He doesn't measure anything even close to it. The aggression measure he uses is not a behavioral measure, it doesn't measure aggressive behaviors. It doesn't predict youth violence. So they're engaging in hyperbole that is not warranted by the results of their study, and that to me say there's clearly an agenda.]
Anderson first delved into Dillen's non-video game background, citing multiple risk factors like anti-social behavior, ADD, learning problems and troubled home life. He pointed out that Dillen kept a "knife and golf club" in his room and was prone to "emotional outbursts." After running down everything in Dillen's life that may have contributed to his supposed killing spree, Anderson turned to his area of "expertise."
Anderson testified that research has shown that playing violent video games can lead to aggressive behavior. The defense then moved to discuss three save games on Dillen's PS2 - for Mortal Kombat. After describing the fatalities in the game - one character ripping another's spine out - the jury was shown various fatalities from Mortal Kombat: Armageddon.
One game. Three saves. Obviously a pattern. The fatalities in the game are indeed violent, but they've also been around for years, being enjoyed by millions of gamers with no ill side effects. Anderson was probably feeling rather confident in his conclusions -- right up until the prosecution began drilling holes in every argument.
But on cross examination, Anderson was put on the defensive as the prosecution drilled down into his expert testimony on video game violence and research. First he was asked if he had ever played Mortal Kombat and if it had made him violent.

Anderson said that he had in fact played the game many years ago and indicated that it did not make him violent.
Millions of gamers. Millions of violent video game hours played. Violent crime at an all-time low in most of America. And yet, Anderson and other like-minded individuals insist these games craft killers. Somehow, Anderson wasn't affected by Mortal Kombat but he expected the jury to believe Dillen was.
Focusing on violent video games, the prosecution pointed out that 70 percent of adolescents play video games and the majority of them do not commit violent crimes. But the real zinger came when the prosecution asked Anderson if Pac Man eating a ghost could be considered violent by some definitions. Anderson says that it could.
The prosecution wasn't finished nailing Anderson to the wall. It also attacked the supposed research he had done into Dillen's past.
Anderson also admitted that he didn't talk to anyone (including therapists, teachers, school officials, or family members) familiar with Dillen's behavior when preparing his report for the defense. The prosecution pointed out that Anderson's first draft of his report listed six risk factors, but a later draft listed 16. Anderson responded by saying that prior aggression is the highest indicator of violence. Anderson also admitted that he had no way of knowing if the documents he used for his report were accurate. The prosecution also pointed out that Dillen's grades had been improving over time and that in some subjects he was getting "A's" and "B's".
For someone so confident that video games are creating killers, Anderson didn't seem too sure of much else. I'm sure he thought he wouldn't need to do more than trot out a little bit of his proprietary "research" and coast out of there unscathed. Instead, the prosecution went after his half-assed "expert opinion" relentlessly, forcing Anderson to utter some pretty damning statements of his own. Unfortunately for Anderson, the only person these statements damned was himself.
Later the prosecution got Anderson to acknowledge that there has never been a study that shows violent video games have been directly linked to violent acts.
Certainly nothing outside of Anderson's own. It gets better (for us). The prosecution brought up Brown v. EMA, pointing out the Supreme Court justices' criticism of Anderson's methodology. Anderson's response?
Anderson said that the decision by the Supreme Court looked like it was written by the video games industry and that he felt like the video game industry went out of its way to personally attack him.
Wow. The video game industry controls the Supreme Court. Who knew?

Ultimately, Anderson's testimony did little, if anything, for the defense. Beason was found guilty of five counts of first-degree murder. Anderson, on the other hand, has further cemented his own reputation as researcher severely short on credibility and objectivity -- both generally considered to be positive traits in this field. Furthermore, he's proved himself to be the kind of opportunistic person who's willing to further his own agenda by painting a murder victim as a violent killer. The courtroom is no place to be tossing around predispositions and shrugging off actual facts. Anderson did both.

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    M. Alan Thomas II (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 6:45am

    Typo

    Right after the second blockquote, you call Craig "Chris."

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      BearGriz72 (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 7:38am

      Re: Typo

      Yeah, that threw me for a second too...
      "Those of you familiar with Chris Anderson's video game research"

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        ChurchHatesTucker (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 7:55am

        Re: Re: Typo

        ... will know his name is Craig.

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          Susan Moore, 3 Jun 2017 @ 8:42pm

          Re: Typo

          Another Major typo. The town where is happened was Beason, The murderer's name is Christopher Harris.

          The details of what Dr. Anderson put this family though are horrible, absolutely horrible. Blaming the victim, the 14 year old kid who had 52 blows to his head from a tire iron.

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    out_of_the_blue, 4 Jun 2013 @ 7:21am

    This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

    You do everything you can to avoid the common sense connection between violence in movies and video games. But along with the devil-worship and nihilism in heavy metal, it CAN'T BE GOOD. There's just no way that it can be a positive for society. -- All you're saying is that academics who don't wish to prove it have managed to not prove it.

    SO, when you're getting beaten to death by cops, just console yourself that the cause of their violence is mysterious, can't be linked to any societal milieu, and most definitely NOT to video games.

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      out_of_the_blue, 4 Jun 2013 @ 7:24am

      Re: This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

      ^^^ First sentence is lousy, should be: You do everything you can to avoid the common sense connection between violence in real life and violent acts depicted in movies and video games.

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      • icon
        PaulT (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 7:32am

        Re: Re: This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

        Every other sentence is lousy. You should fix those too.

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      • identicon
        Andrew, 4 Jun 2013 @ 7:33am

        Re: Re: This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

        And if a cop's beating you to death I doubt it's because they were watching a violent movie or playing video games.

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      • icon
        Nick (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 8:05am

        Re: Re: This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

        The more I read OOTB's posts, the more I think he is just fanatically playing devil's advocate. I can't think of a single post here that he hasn't taken the complete opposite stance on for anything. And there are a few posts on techdirt that I haven't agreed with, either on the severity of the issue, or the actual issue itself.

        OOTB, however, consistently yells at us that we are all "sheeple" ignorant to the common sense ideas in our society as if HE is the one in the right / majority of the country and knows it.

        Well, it's good exercise. Gets us to learn how to argue against the common stupid statements we are likely to hear regarding these stories in the coming days.

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          Matthew Cline (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 3:59pm

          Re: Re: Re: This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

          He doesn't always disagree. Sometimes agree, but say something like "Why do you criticize company X for doing Y, when Google is a much bigger offender". Or in the article on proposed tariffs on Chinese imports, he went off on a tangent about how the author didn't mention China's use of slave labor.

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            Niall (profile), 5 Jun 2013 @ 5:49am

            Re: Re: Re: Re: This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

            Yes, but those are the highly unusual exceptions, and still contain basic criticism at their core.

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      • identicon
        Bob, 4 Jun 2013 @ 8:18am

        Re: Re: This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

        If violence in the media- on television, in movies and video games- causes real, physical violence, and is more prevalent than ever, how are violent crimes at an all time low?

        Oh wait, there's this new thing called causality, which you have no empirical evidence to suggest.

        Oh wait again, I'm appealing to the sense of reason you've clearly failed to engage.

        Idiotic comments aside, why are flagged comments hidden? It seems like the best way to address nonsense is with a little common sense. I'd rather not let idiots go on propagating ignorance unchecked.

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        • identicon
          Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 7:04pm

          Re: Re: Re: This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

          Why do companies spend millions of dollars on advertising? Isn't it to try to influence people's purchasing behavior? If people don't act on what they hear and see, what's the point of advertising?

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            Niall (profile), 5 Jun 2013 @ 5:51am

            Re: Re: Re: Re: This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

            Because there is a difference between encouraging someone to buy a new anti-microbial soap or chicken fillet cutter and imploring someone to go out and kill 'anyone'.

            At best you could blame Fox+COD for attacks on Muslims but even that would be a stretch (the COD bit anyway ;).

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    • identicon
      Andrew, 4 Jun 2013 @ 7:28am

      Re: This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

      I know people who listen to death metal, and none of them are worshipping Satan. Nice try with your witch hunt though.

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        Niall (profile), 5 Jun 2013 @ 5:52am

        Re: Re: This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

        And even if they did, so what? One blood god is as 'good' as another.

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      PaulT (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 7:31am

      Re: This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

      If you can't make a comment without lying and name-calling in the subject line of your comment, why bother?

      "But along with the devil-worship and nihilism in heavy metal, it CAN'T BE GOOD."

      Whoa... Did I time travel back to the 1980s? Time to buy me some Apple stock!

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      • identicon
        Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 7:35am

        Re: Re: This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

        "Whoa... Did I time travel back to the 1980s? Time to buy me some Apple stock!"

        We must not miss this opportunity. Quick, we can still prevent such horrific world disasters as 9/11, Fukushima and Windows 8 from happening!

        link to this | view in chronology ]

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          BearGriz72 (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 7:41am

          Re: Re: Re: This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

          ROFL

          "horrific world disaster" of Windows 8 FTW!

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      Tim Griffiths (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 7:37am

      Re: This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

      So just so we are clear the only way to grow up and stop acting like a 14 year only is to simply accept what you are told is "common sense" even when their is no evidence to support it? So you either just admitted that you are 14 or that you accept what you are told at face value with no need to think critically about it. So you've just pretty much undermined everything you have and will ever say on any topic here because you've categorically stated that you have no interest in a critical debate just justifying what you view as "common sense". Well done.

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    • identicon
      kainyu, 4 Jun 2013 @ 7:43am

      Re: This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

      Really?..

      Come on when were you born? I can point out anything from any timeline from present to the 1880 that was viewed as a social norm for people under the age of 25 and as damaging by those older. The only people who get violent after playing a video game were violent to begin with. You have to realise some people are just angry by nature. Take me for example I wasn't exactly a calm kid don't get me wrong I wasn't violent but if someone did or said something that I disagreed with I would defend my point or position firmly and if it came to a fight so be it. Did that evolve into me murdering people that didn't share my belief when I found gaming? Not in the slightest I met people all across the world got great friends that I never would have had if we didn't share that hobby and have become an adult with no criminal record a good line of work (Programmer (I failed in school wanted to make games really bad so I taught myself ended up having a normal software development job)).

      I could find just as many violent people who play video games than who write poetry, read books, or who don't do any and have an active social life or any other activity. I will write a book how all serial murderers drove cars and that lead them to murder! I could make conenctions but they are flimsy and foolish.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 7:51am

      Re: This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

      Agreed. Violent movies should be banned, especially those that take $100 million to produce. Hollywood should be prosecuted for being an accessory to violence.

      There, happy now?

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      RyanNerd (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 8:09am

      Re: This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

      Normally I do not feed the trolls. But, this one I can not let go unresponded.

      I've been playing violent video games since I was 14 when the violent game asteroids came out.

      OOTB please give me your address. I need a human sacrifice for my satanic ritual this Friday, and you seem a really good canidate. Given the content of your posts on this forum our coven can resonably assume that you are a virgin. I am a 27th Level Grand Master Warlock and your sacrifice would be greatly apprichiated and I'm sure you would agree that it is an honor to be asked by us to partisipate.

      Just so you know: we use chicken blood to draw our pentagrams, and the altar is made out of the bones of woodland animals we found in the forest. The candle wax is made from the fat of frogs we killed in the nearby pond.

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      • identicon
        Rich, 4 Jun 2013 @ 9:34am

        Re: Re: This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

        Hey! I never got an invite!

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        Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 9:44am

        Re: Re: This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

        I need a human sacrifice for my satanic ritual this Friday
        As someone who has also played violent video games since their invention (space invaders anyone?) and has further fuelled my clear predisposition for violence by repeatedly playing roleplaying games (including *gasp* some involving religious and even satanic themes) I am clearly in desperate need of attending a human sacrifice immediately... I'd be grateful if you'd forward your address and if it's OOTB you get then it'll be well worth the plane ticket - I'll even spring for the candles and knife... :-)

        Damn I must have been repressing my muderous tendencies for way too long...

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        • identicon
          Digitari, 4 Jun 2013 @ 11:48am

          Re: Re: Re: This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

          can I come along? I just want to film it, listening to OOTB on here screaming long enough.. I love to record some REAL screams for a change...

          BTW I can't believe OOTB use "Common sense" in his post, it's obvious, for him, it's neither common, nor sense.

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      • identicon
        Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 10:52am

        Re: Re: This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

        Will there be snacks?

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    • identicon
      Alt0, 4 Jun 2013 @ 8:19am

      Re: This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

      "But along with the devil-worship and nihilism in heavy metal, it CAN'T BE GOOD."

      One example for you Blue.
      I play video games as a "valve". I don my armor, grab a sword and shield and indulge in MAKE BELIEVE mayhem, and it actually has a "calming" effect after a long day.
      Someone cuts me off while driving (I ride a motorcycle and this behavior is a real threat to me) I get angry. Do I kick off their mirror in retaliation? Hell no because that's REAL LIFE violence. I am someone that actually knows the difference between the two, as does almost everyone except some researchers and undoubtedly you.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 8:52am

      Re: This is a real mania with you 14-year-olds, isn't it?

      "You do everything you can to avoid the common sense connection between violence in movies and video games. But along with the devil-worship and nihilism in heavy metal, it CAN'T BE GOOD."

      And those wizards and witches in Harry Potter novels and movies!
      My GOD!
      Save us from them, before they force us to do evil deeds against our wills!

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    PaulT (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 7:38am

    I can almost understand this kind of desperate and plaining false kind of argument in a murder trial. If you can't refute the physical evidence and can't produce any actual evidence of mental or other circumstance to lower the charge being faced, it's worth a punt.

    The problem is the crusaders who pick up these lies and drag them through political and other arenas, deflecting attention and resources away from the actual causes of society's problems. Jack Thompson was laughed at until he got disbarred, hopefully the same will happen to this lawyer.

    As someone who grew up during the UK video nasties crap, it's a shame that it's being repeated. I hope the lawmakers aren't as stupid as those people were, but I have many doubts.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 7:38am

    More study needs to be done on serotonin re-uptake inhibitors.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 7:47am

    Why in gods name would I want to go out and murder somebody then rip their spine out? I mean that sounds like a lot of work when I could do it by pressing Down, Down, B all from my couch.

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    Zakida Paul (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 7:51am

    It would not take a clever lawyer to destroy anyone linking violent video games to real life violence.

    It has been debunked a million times on the Internet, for crying out loud.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 7:58am

    My murder victim wasn't killed by me! He killed himself by shooting his own brains out, and his heart for good measure, and then he buried his own dead body in a shallow grave near my house in order to frame me!

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 8:10am

    the mistake here is obvious. a Senator should have been called as a witness! the outcome would have definitely been that video games turns mild mannered people into raving murderers!

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 8:15am

    "The fatalities in the game are indeed violent..."

    Are they?

    If you consider one person exploding into like seven rib cages, twelve legs and five skulls to be violent, then sure, it's violent...in a totally unrealistic and over the top way.

    Or maybe you are thinking about the part where they drop an arcade machine on the victim?

    Seriously, MK is a (terrible) joke.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

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    RyanNerd (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 8:18am

    Criminal Lawyers a necessary evil

    I have to give kudos to the defence attorney whose job it is from time to time to defend someone who is obviously guilty. So congrats to him for proposing a plausible story (his client came in on a murder that was already in progress) and trying his best to bring in an "expert" on behalf of his client to mount a defence of the indefensible.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 9:06am

    He pointed out that Dillen kept a "knife and golf club" in his room...

    So? I had quite the collection of pocket knives. Most of them were gifts from family members. I had no place to keep these knives but in my room.

    Also had a baseball bat next to my bed.

    I certainly haven't killed, maimed, or otherwise seriously injured anyone in my life.

    I'm trying to remember if Craig Anderson actually taught any of my classes when I was at ISU. Name is familiar, but this is the first time in a long time I have heard it.

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    • identicon
      Zandrax, 4 Jun 2013 @ 12:17pm

      Response to: Anonymous Coward on Jun 4th, 2013 @ 9:06am

      I have several knives, a katana, rifles, and golf clubs in my room.

      I also play games like GTA and CoD, never had an urge to go on a murder spree

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  • icon
    Viln (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 9:26am

    Folks...

    I realize many of you come to these comments sections to hear a troll spout nonsense and other people rip him apart for it... and I can understand the entertainment value to a certain degree... I think we all need to acknowledge that the lettuce has spoiled long ago. Let's stop giving celebrity status to the same message board cretins and try to elevate the discussion to something more entertaining or expansive.

    Or at the very least, let's hold out for some new, more entertaining trolls.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 9:41am

    Um, you do know that the perp's name is NOT Chris Beason, as you report. Start by getting basic facts right

    link to this | view in chronology ]

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    placebo96799 (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 10:00am

    I have my doubts

    I don't think a blanket statement can be made that there is no connection between acts of violence and violent video games. My argument is that advertisers are projected to spend 500 billion dollars this year worldwide. About 170 billion in the U.S. alone. This money would not be spent if advertising did not affect the behavior of some of the people that are exposed to it. The argument "I played Mortal Combat and I've never killed anyone" doesn't sway me. Millions of people see advertisements for cigarettes but have never smoked. But there is a subset of the population that does smoke due to the influence of the ads. Regarding violence, I venture to say that violent video games influence a subset of the game playing population to commit acts of violence. It is likely a miniscule number, but a "number" nonetheless.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Rich, 4 Jun 2013 @ 10:15am

      Re: I have my doubts

      Being persuaded to purchase an item because of advertising is a BIG difference from being persuaded to kill someone. People are not robots subject to the whims. We make choices based on a lot of factors. Desire and influence are only part of it. The only consequences of my buying a game are lost of money and time. The consequences of murder are much, much greater.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 10:15am

      Re: I have my doubts

      Yep, you saw right through that stuff. I admit it. I saw an ad for Call Of Duty and bought it. Oddly, that didn't make me join the Army.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

      • identicon
        Digitari, 4 Jun 2013 @ 11:51am

        Re: Re: I have my doubts

        or shoot "terrorist"?? you didn't say in your post soooo....



        /sarc (or OOTB Logic whichever)

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    Matthew Cline (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 4:02pm

    He pointed out that Dillen ... was prone to "emotional outbursts."
    A teenager prone to emotional outbursts. Well, clearly this must be because of nefarious outside influences.

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  • identicon
    Andrew, 4 Jun 2013 @ 8:21pm

    I personally think we should stop with the witch hunts and go back to treating criminals like criminals and not as victims of society. If you break the law, if you murder someone, then you should be held accountable for your actions.

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