Norway To Digitize All Norwegian Books, Allowing Domestic IP Addresses To Read All Of Them, Irrespective Of Copyright Status
from the futuristic-thinking dept
Here's a pretty amazing story from Norway:
The National Library of Norway is planning to digitize all the books by the mid 2020s.
Yes. All. The. Books. In Norwegian, at least. Hundreds of thousands of them. Every book in the library's holdings.
Now, in any normal country -- where "normal" means one in which copyright has reached the heights of monopolistic insanity -- if those books were still under copyright, the digitized versions (assuming publishers even allowed them to be made in the first place) would probably only be available in a specially constructed room deep in the basement of the National Library on a (small) screen, and with guards stationed either side of it to ensure that no unauthorized copies were made. Here, by contrast, is what's happening with the National Library of Norway's digital collection:
If you happen to be in Norway, as measured by your IP address, you will be able to access all 20th-century works, even those still under copyright. Non-copyrighted works from all time periods will be available for download.
As Alexis C. Madrigal points out in his entertaining article for The Atlantic, there's a rather interesting consequence of the different approaches to book digitization taken by Norway and the US, say:
Imagine digital archaeologists coming across the remains of early 21st century civilization in an old data center on the warming tundra. They look around, find some scraps of Buzzfeed and The Atlantic, maybe some Encyclopaedia Britannicas, and then, gleaming in the data: a complete set of Norwegian literature.
This is what excessive copyright does to countries that impose it. It not only prevents today's artists from building on the work of their recent forebears -- something that occurred routinely until intellectual monopolies were introduced in recent centuries -- but it even jeopardizes the preservation and transmission of entire cultures because of publishers' refusal to allow copyright to move with the times by permitting large-scale digitization and distribution of the kind envisaged in Norway.
Suddenly, the Norwegians become to 27th-century humans what the Greeks were to the Renaissance. Everyone names the children of the space colonies Per and Henrik, Amalie and Sigrid. The capital of our new home planet will be christened Oslo.
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Good 2 Go!!
Google Translate... check!!
Thanks Norway!!! :-)
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goolge
Yes they might not be giving access to these works at the moment but who knows that the future holds.
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That's the difference here - Google can't just let you read any book you want from cover to cover, but that's exactly what Norway is going to let its citizens do.
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That said, unless people start encoding large batches of data in dna for long time storage, i doubt there will be much future for digital archeology, as its too easy to erase digital data and even the better projected time capsules of 50 years ago storing mettalic objects have show permeability by water, and the subsequent general corrosion. Wanna store data for long times? Print it on paper, seal in glass, then you trade magnetic state entropic losses for chemical entropic losses. Digital data is cheap and allows plenty of redundancy but has terrible resiliency faced against adverse conditions.
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physorg: Data that lives forever is possible: Japan's Hitachi
extremetech: Five-dimensional glass memory can store 360TB per disc, rugged enough to outlive the human race
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last for-freaking-ever...
hemp for victory!
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Google books isn't bad because it lets you search the contents while letting you have an extended preview. It's something you can search for topics and then find books rather than a pure replacement.
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Massive fail on your part. You're making several assumptions with absolutely no evidence to back them up
1) That the vast majority of Norwegians don't like paper books.
2) That the vast majority of Norwegians prefer reading e-books
3) That the vast majority of Norwegians have quality e-reading devices (which in my experience means a Kindle)
Last I checked, paper books are still vastly popular. I'm a voracious e-reader myself, but I still prefer the physical book. The only reason I rarely get one these days is I simply don't have the room to store them.
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I tend to be exactly the opposite. I prefer e-books. But there is one place in the world where having a paper book is preferred to e-books. Less chance of a paper book getting wet and electrocuting you, and in some cases, for a particularly bad book, you can use its pages to clean up after yourself.
Though I tend to read a lot of magazines in this place instead.
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But seriously, even though Swordcrossrocket was talking out of his ass, I wouldn't say you're too far behind him.
Do you have any sources for your claims?
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I'd like to see some argument backing up your doomsday analysis considering I have the paper books for most stuff I have in my Kindle (btw I've never bought an e-book). Also consider that there are books so worn out due to me reading them a lot of times that I actually bought A SECOND one. Notice I have an e-reader that's incredibly useful.
I'm waiting for a sound argument.
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Just like no one buys books at all once it became possible to download them for free.
In the short-term a move like this might indeed decrease book sales, but I think long term it will likely increase them, as people discover new and different authors that they'd previously never heard of, due to being able to try their works for free.
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"The Norwegian authors are going to have to hope they can make money selling outside of their own country"
I would hope that any of them with any grasp on business would already hope to make money selling outside of Norway and/or outside of the Norwegian language. They're missing out on most of the planet if they've never bothered, while presumably competing with non-Norwegian authors who've had their works translated on their home turf.
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Epic failure - to repeat a previous commenter's sarcasm as a "serious" comment!
Well done sir!
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Background info
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"Digitalization"
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Norwegian culture is dead
They really need to rethink this and lock down this culture so it will survive for the future generations.
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If Norwegian were popular, every book would be torrented worldwide.
As one already (perhaps sarcastically) commented: this near ensures the disappearance of Norwegian "culture", as no one wants what's freely available. One of the secrets of "locking up" whether copyright or Prohibition is that the unavailable is seen as highly desirable.
If you advocate taking copyright away from Disney (after 80-some years), then FINE! -- But don't at same time empower today's mega-corporations to steal creative works from the poor. Those are not similar cases. Doing away with ALL copyright is even more criminal than the current mess. -- Make a means test for copyright, prohibit it entirely to corporations, and prevent them from raiding the public domain.
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Eheheh... ah, you always give me a smirk, it seems.
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Well, at least he has admitted that the current situation is a mess!
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If the story's about Google or a similar large corporation, or he has nothing specific to attack Mike for, he'll attack corporations and pretend that the comments and writers here are simply corporate bootlickers.
Then, when faced with something like this or a successful alternative business model, he'll defend the corporate point of view, pretending that nothing works if you can't make $100 million, retain absolute monopoly or appeal to the basest common denominator.
The level of self-delusion is astounding, unless he's deliberately putting on an act, in which case he's one of the saddest human beings I've encountered.
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Headline is incorrect.
This makes sense. Norway would be violating international treaties if they just made everything available without regard to copyright status.
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I would figure international treaties would only come into play if either Norway was offering all non-Norwegian content for free or if it was giving Norwegian content to a foreign country for free.
Although, maybe treaties don't work like interstate commerce in the US.
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