Members Of Congress Ask Eric Holder To Try Again In His Explanation Of The Prosecution Of Aaron Swartz
from the this-time,-with-some-reality-involved dept
Tomorrow is the anniversary of the unfortunate passing of Aaron Swartz. Senators John Cornyn and Al Franken, along with Rep. Darryl Issa, have now sent Attorney General Eric Holder yet another request for an explanation concerning the investigation and prosecution of Swartz. This follows on a similar request from last year, but these elected officials note both that the DOJ's response was inadequate, and that it was also contradicted by the eventual report on the prosecution that came out of MIT.We regret that the information your Department has provided to date has not been satisfactory -- among other things, it painted a picture of prosecutors unwilling or unable to weigh what charges to pursue against a defendant, something which you have instructed federal prosecutors is "among [their] most fundamental duties."In other words, despite the claims from Holder that the charges against Aaron were not based on Swartz exercising his right to free speech, Stephen Heymann has since admitted that, in fact, Swartz's friends speaking out on his behalf were what made him decide to try to throw the book at Swartz. The letter points out further claims from Holder that appear to be contradicted by the MIT report and note:
The account also is inconsistent with findings in the report prepared by MIT about the prosecution of Mr. Swartz, dated July 26, 2013 ("MIT Report"). A letter provided by the Department in May states that "the charging and sentencing decisions made by Department. lawyers were properly based on the law and the facts of the case . . . and not on inappropriate considerations, such as Mr. Swartz's exercise of his legal rights as a citizen." The MIT Report indicates that Assistant U.S. Attorney Stephen Heymann considered other factors in advance of the return of the superseding indictment. He told MIT that "the straw that broke the camel's back" was an internet webpage soliciting signatures on Mr. Swartz's behalf by Demand Progress, an activist group founded by Mr. Swartz.
Inconsistencies such as these require serious responses to the original letter, and indeed raise more questions about the prosecution of Mr. Swartz. One year ago, we sought the basis for the U.S. Attorney Carmen Ortiz's determination that her office's conduct was "appropriate." We have received no such information, not even the sentencing memoranda that surely were prepared in a case such as this.Given how Holder and the DOJ have responded to these issues in the past, I wouldn't expect any real response to be forthcoming any time soon.
In March, you testified that Mr. Swartz's case was "a good use of prosecutorial discretion." We respectfully disagree. We hope your response to this letter is fulsome, which would help re-build confidence about the willingness of the Department to examine itself where prosecutorial conduct is concerned.
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Filed Under: aaron swartz, al franken, darrell issa, doj, eric holder, john cornyn, prosecution, stephen heymann
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well, finally, a use for the enn ess ehh...
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Maybe the moose can give it back, because I don't think the kangaroos will.
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Of course not. Why obey the law when you know that you can ignore it without consequence?
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So the consequence of his breaking the law is job security, getting paid for doing vanity research on himself.
Of all the corrupt institutions of the current administration, the Department of "Justice" is probably the most cynically corrupt one.
The whole "plea deal" extortion business is designed to have people bled dry when they insist on their constitutional right to a jury trial rather than just taking whatever the prosecution feels like, independent of proof or innocence.
It's as crooked as any kangaroo court, only more expensive.
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The whole truth.
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No Easy Way Out: Remembering Aaron Swartz on the One Year Anniversary of his Murder
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2014/01/11/no-easy-way-out-remembering-aaron-swartz-on-the-one -year-anniversary-of-his-murder/
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Obama then also has to go through the hassle of getting a replacement which would be more of a circus on his end than leaving them in place.
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I have no problem at all with people being upset because they do not believe he should have been charged, but all this trying to present him as a saint while ignoring the copious evidence that he engaged in clearly illegal conduct is disingenuous to a fault and undermines what might otherwise be opinions carrying persuasive effect.
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Are you a Judge?
Did you head all of the evidence in this case?
Do you understand the alleged victim of this alleged "crime" did not ask for the case to proceed?
Did you happen to notice that the charges were stacked and stacked and magically increased in length and severity after public statements were made?
We live in a country where a rapist got out of jail for good behavior while the person who made the authorities even do anything about the crime faces a much longer term. Perhaps there is not equal justice when people make noise.
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In my opinion if the alleged victim of the alleged crime said to the police that they did not want to make a case and do not want a case to proceed then the police should respect the rights of the victim and drop the case.
It seems to me that with the police pursuing the case and going against the wishes of the victim (who did not want the case to proceed) seems that the police had a hidden agenda and wanted to make an example of the person who allegedly committed the crime even though the victim asked for the case not to proceed. Perhaps the police wanted to make an example of him for his activites and of his involvements because they didn't like them and by pursuing this case (even though the victim asked for it to be dropped) felt they could bring him down and shut him up even if he did no wrong.
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Many times this is the case, though it does bear mentioning that oftentimes this is so because the victim, a necessary witness in the event of a trial, may be hostile to the idea of a trial at which he/she would be required to testify.
Another reason a trial may proceed despite a victim's desire to the contrary is that prosecutors do not represent victims. They represent the public at large because it is public laws that have allegedly been violated.
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Nothing was stolen, no one was harmed.
In the mean time other "high profile" cases were not pursued with the same dogged asshattery, despite millions having lost real property and actual harm being caused.
This was a case where a prosecutor wanted to drive a political point home, and used poorly written laws to make that point.
He might have been found to have broken the law, we'll never know... but stacking several lifetimes to force someone to cave in is abuse of process. Perhaps DoJ would like to deal with their 'Brady Violations' and clean their own house before deciding they can pursue others. Perhaps they should pursue cases where it isn't a slam dunk case, simply because a law was broken... rather than ignore the crime because it might be hard. Perhaps turning a simple case into a headline grabbing extravaganza so they can put a tick in the win column so we might look past their abject failures to protect actual people, actual property while taking orders from a cartel of corporations to pursue cases on no evidence other than their word... which often goes silent when it is time to present evidence and none is forthcoming to back up the claims.
The public was not harmed by Aarons actions, the public was massively harmed by the witch hunt that followed. It showed how the law is broken, destroyed what little faith people had in the rule of law, and showed that Justice is only used against those to poor to buy their way out of it.
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That means that it's in the best interest of felons to threaten and intimidate their victim.
It also means that murderers will get off free since their victims will not want the case to proceed.
I have no beef with cases being prosecuted without forcing the victim to be seen giving the goahead.
However, it is utterly ridiculous that Swartz' case was treated as a felony, and with stacking the charges where you had to expect defense costs for the equivalent of three murders and a few rapes.
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Moreover, the police and prosecutors don't have to wait until a judge decides he's guilty to push their case. Due process doesn't start with a judgement, it finishes with one.
Your rapist rant is amusing, but not relevant - except that had Aaron been reasonable, this likely would have done away pretty quickly and been done with. Instead, everything I have read out there suggested that he continued to thumb his nose at authority, which lead to what some might call "judicial ramp up" but what most of us call "hardball".
Had Aaron not decided to end his own life, this likely would have blown over into a 1 year probation don't do it again you bad boy type thing that would have gone away. He appears to have been getting some pretty horrible legal advice or making some poor personal choices that lead to the issues at hand.
I don't talk badly about Aaron because I know he was a smart guy who did lots of good things, but it's clear he did at least a few things that were marginal or even quite illegal. I think it's very disappointing that some people feel like using his suicide to further a political agenda. He's not a martyr, just a guy who refused to face up to responsibility and instead took the other exit. It's incredibly sad, that is for sure.
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Response to: Anonymous Coward on Jan 10th, 2014 @ 9:40pm
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It is good that the questions are being asked by people who might even get a response, no matter how contrived, but one might wonder why it has taken so long and why these people in particular.
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The only footage of a kid running after doing something naughty?
Did you know that room bare the scars(graphite) of decades of hacker culture which was never ever treated as a criminal offense and in fact was very much encouraged by just everyone there?
So disingenuous are the people now trying to paint it as a serious offense.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacks_at_the_Massachusetts_Institute_of_Technology
http://www.b oston.com/yourtown/cambridge/2012/09/17/hackers-delight-history-mit-pranks/RTncCPQ02YSNy7YLHCY7UJ/pi ctures.html
http://wiki.mitadmissions.org/Hacks
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First, it was not Aaron Swartz's lawyer who quoted the lead prosecutor, it was MIT's lawyers (in a memorandum provided by MIT�s outside counsel to its Office of General Counsel, dated August 10, 2012).
Second, MIT's counsel recited what the lead prosecutor stated directly to them -- in order to qualify as "hearsay" they would have to had quoted something that they heard that the prosecutor said to someone else.
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Hearsay are alleged statements made by a person that are being communicated by another person. It can range from "He/she told me..." to "He/she told him/her, who told him/her, etc.....". In the eyes of the law there is a strong presumption against the admissibility of hearsay at trial because the best evidence of what was said is the actual speaker.
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I think you might misunderstand the source of the upset. It isn't that he was charged (although the specific charges that were being proposed do, in themselves, represent a dramatic abuse of the CFAA -- the correct charge would have been "trespassing".)
The source of the upset was that he was harassed and bullied by the DOJ for purely political reasons to such an extent that it was clearly a factor in his decision to take his own life. This is even more egregious given that his actual offense was very minor.
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Irrelevant to the core issue. The problem here is flagrant abuse of prosecutorial discretion, not whether or not Ortiz and her team were able to find statutes under which he could be charged.
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If crying out against abuse of power by the DOJ is "stupid ranting," then we as a nation are truly doomed.
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Obama is the problem
The White House is STILL advocating the Swartz treatment for Snowden.
This is a morally bankrupt administration.
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I hear there's a binding document that has somehting to say about tyranny of the people...
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Because, if we actually held them accountable, then they wouldn't get away with this shit.
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Use the Swartz Eric
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We all want to change the world
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Why not try enforcing the laws, rules and regs on the books already? And I say we start with the lawmakers, the children and grandchildren of the lawmakers.
Have their lives gone over with the same zealotry and perhaps moreso than Mr. Swartz was subjected to.
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Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
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Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You better free you mind instead
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Fuck you. It's not like you or any other members of congress are going to actually do anything over this, so go piss off and stop bothering me!
Sincerely
Eric Holder"
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Not to mention the authority to convict members of that branch if needed.
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It's pretty obvious the Executive branch believes that they're above the other parts of the government, answerable to essentially no-one, so calling their bluff/belief like that could lead to some pretty big fireworks, as everyone got to see just how much they wanted to hold on to the 'crown'.
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98 percent of the people charged take the plea bargain, because the prosecutors scare them too much with tens of years or prison even for victimless crimes - all while the rich people get "settlements" in which they pay 1 percent of what they made in their crime, and serve no prison time.
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DOJ fixes
2. Government Appointment Job. not Elected official
3. No party affiliation while a prosecutor
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The Prosecutor Managed to break Aaron's will to fight On.
Was It Ethical, Not At All.
If he Managed to get a plea bargin would it help the prosecutors political ambitions, Yes Certainly.
There is enough circumstantial evidence to justify an inquiry into that particular prosecutors office.
The Job of a prosecutor is to present the truth and get a lawful conviction, it is important no personal desires interfere with the presentation of the "truth".
Arron's actions in rejecting a Plea Deal is evidence that Arron Wanted to go to trial. The Prosecutors Desire to extract a guilty plea by piling on the charges shows a contempt for providing Aaron with his constitutional right to a court trial.
The Facts are hidden by the foul stench from the prosecutors office
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This comment makes no sense. He wants a trial. A plea bargain is offered with fairly reasonable terms under the circumstances. He rejects the offer. Had he not died at his own hand, his case would have gone to trial, thus fulfilling what you believe was his wish.
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