FBI Appears To Have Collected Tormail's Entire Email Database... And It's Using It
from the collect-it-all dept
We've mentioned in the past that, for all the focus on the NSA lately, the FBI may be equally, if not more, worrisome for its willingness to collect tons of data on everyone and use it. Back in August, it became pretty clear that the FBI had compromised the Tor Browser Bundle, and had effectively taken over Freedom Hosting -- a popular hosting provider for dark web tor sites -- in order to push out malware that identified Tor users. A month later, it was confirmed that it was the FBI behind the effort, which led to the closing of Freedom Hosting.Now there are new reports, suggesting that along with Freedom Hosting, the FBI was able to get the full database of emails on TorMail, a popular tor-based email service that used Freedom Hosting and was shut down at the same time Freedom Hosting went down. The reports point to a new lawsuit, in which the FBI was able to get a search warrant to search TorMail using its own copy of the database -- which it clearly had obtained at an earlier date. This basically means that the FBI has a pretty easy time searching all those emails if it needs to:
The tactic suggests the FBI is adapting to the age of big-data with an NSA-style collect-everything approach, gathering information into a virtual lock box, and leaving it there until it can obtain specific authority to tap it later. There’s no indication that the FBI searched the trove for incriminating evidence before getting a warrant. But now that it has a copy of TorMail’s servers, the bureau can execute endless search warrants on a mail service that once boasted of being immune to spying.This again highlights one of the problems of the "collect it all" approach. Rather than merely targeting a specific individual or group, the FBI now has all of those emails sitting in a database. Even if it's getting a warrant to search, it's now searching its own database, rather than having to go out to get the information from others who might challenge the requests.
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FBI: Your Honor, we'd like to apply for a search warrant to search through X, Y, and Z email addresses.
Judge: What cause and evidence do you have to believe that the listed email addresses contain incriminating evidence?
FBI: Oh we already have, and have looked through, the email addresses, now we just need an after-the-fact warrant so we can legally search through and use the emails as evidence in court.
Judge: That seems off for some reason, but my favorite show is on in half an hour, and it's getting close to lunch, so warrant granted.
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The sad part is that it is the government that are the criminals in this instance
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Defense lawyer: "Your honor, my client couldn't have tampered with that evidence because he after all is a professional at this sort of thing."
Judge: "Seems reasonable to me."
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The Value of the Evidence Against You would only be compromised If you were not guilty! GUILTY! GUILTY!
from the grave...
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If those hand-written notes disagree with what a suspect claims he said, the most common result is perjury or lying to a federal agent charges for the suspect.
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Hypocritial villains.
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probably, criminals are not the smartest group around!
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So, It Doesn't Count Until...
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Well, as a PRMan that skill could probably come in handy, but that is not what we are here to discuss.
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Punishment by association
It's the equivalent of razing an entire village because one enemy soldier is suspected to be living within it.
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JUDGE: Um, that guy? Y'know, the one you're supposed to uphold?
GOVERNMENT: Oh, sorry, we killed him in a lobbied "accident".
JUDGE: Very well, carry on.
PUBLIC: OBJECTION! This isn't right! This is Tyranny!
JUDGE: But they have the paperwork and the finances. So there's nothing I can do.
*GOVERNMENT hands JUDGE a set of Photoshopped pictures*
GOVERNMENT: There you go, as agreed.
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Up your encryption game, people!
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