T-Mobile Writes The Best Press Release You'll Ever See From A Phone Company

from the someone-had-some-fun dept

Our general rule is that we ignore press releases, because they're fake news. People still send them to us sometimes, but I've got a pretty good email filter that filters them right into the trash. Every so often there's an interesting press release, but it's rare. It's even rarer from a large company. Rarer still: an interesting press release from a telco. And yet, here's T-Mobile with what may be the best press release you'll ever see from a phone company, outright ridiculing AT&T's plan to offer T-Mobile customers $450 to switch to AT&T. To be fair, T-Mobile, which has basically been the also-ran of the mobile world for years, has decided in the past year or so that the best strategy to change that is to basically do pretty much everything differently than mobile operators have done in the past, bucking lots of trends with concepts that are actually (gasp!) consumer friendly. It's kind of shocking to see a phone company come to the conclusion that, hey, perhaps treating customers right is a competitive advantage, but it does appear that T-Mobile has (to some extent) embraced that concept.

And then there's this press release. At the beginning of January, AT&T directly began offering T-Mobile users $450 to switch. Apparently the company has realized that if it can't buy T-Mobile directly, it might as well just buy its customers. Now, most companies when targeted by a larger competitor in this manner might sort through a variety of responses, and I'm sure at some point, perhaps late at night under the influence of an extra alcoholic beverage or two, someone might suggest the following. But to actually go ahead with it... well... that's a bit bold. In short, T-Mobile flips the offer on its head, noting that since it only applies to T-Mobile users, AT&T users now have a "risk free" way to test out T-Mobile -- and they throw in hilarious fake quotes from AT&T Mobility's CEO, Ralph de la Vega, mock the "death star" and a variety of other things you don't normally see in a telco press release -- such as comparing de la Vega to Darth Vader.
T-Mobile US, Inc. (NYSE: TMUS) today announced that pretty much everyone at the company is overcome with emotion and still kind of processing the decision by now-ex-rival AT&T to leave the dark side, step into the light, and join hands in supporting the Un-carrier consumer revolution.

“Call it an awakening,” said Ralph de la Vega, president and CEO of AT&T Mobility, “but I felt it was time to really stir things up and put the customer first for a change. And by “customer” I’m referring to our former customers who switch to T-Mobile, because our current customers don’t really qualify.” De la Vega said that the new T-Mobile switching offer was custom designed to entice its millions of contract customers to go ahead and give T-Mobile a try. “If for any reason you don’t love T-Mobile’s 4G LTE network, which is now faster than ours[i], we’ll actually pay you up to $450 to come back to AT&T, I kid you not.”

Ok, De La Vega didn’t actually say that, but he might as well have. Thanks to AT&T’s apparent change-of-heart and incredibly generous $450 T-Mobile customer buy-back campaign, insane numbers of its very own customers and even families of AT&T employees are enjoying a risk-free, zero-cost opportunity to switch to the Un-carrier. If customers making the switch are not completely satisfied with T-Mobile and its state-of-the-art nationwide 4G LTE network (now fastest in the U.S.)i, AT&T will cover the costs for customers switching back to their own slower network, up to $450 with trade-in[ii]. Details of the new AT&T offer can be found at att.com/att/switcherpromo.

“Wow. I mean … wow,” breathed John Legere, president and CEO of T-Mobile. “I guess we all have moments of doubt. You know? Like, can the darkness ever be defeated? But that they’ve singled us out in this way is just so affirming. I guess we must be doing something right. I mean, if AT&T can change, it feels like anything’s possible.

“It’s kind of like that scene where Darth Vader’s lying there and Luke helps take off his helmet,” Legere continued, “and you see that, okay, sure, Darth Vader’s pretty ugly, but he’s human after all.”

[....] “Somebody pinch me,” said Mike Sievert, Chief Marketing Officer. “By offering a risk-free way for their millions of customers to come over to T-Mobile – AT&T has helped put this Un-carrier consumer movement into overdrive. At T-Mobile we stand for Contract Freedom, and I want to thank our friends at AT&T for helping us liberate their former customers. This isn’t just about switching offers -- it’s about T-Mobile giving customers the service, the network, and the wireless experience they deserve, without having to worry when they switch.”

Sievert noted that AT&T’s recent full-page ad in The New York Times had signaled a real turning point in his mind – that the former industry rival had truly stepped out of the darkness and was seeking to mend its ways and support the Un-carrier consumer movement.

“I mean, a full page ad in The New York Times,” said Sievert. “That says commitment to me.”
Yes, T-Mobile also uses the press release to pitch its own deal for mobile phone users to switch to T-Mobile, but this is quite a press release. If other companies actually did press releases like this, I might have to actually adjust my email filters...
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Filed Under: darth vader, john legere, press releases, ralph de la vega, turning the tables
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  • icon
    Ninja (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 4:09am

    My first thought was how the fuck did nobody at AT&T see that it could quickly escalate into the negative side? I mean if I see some company throwing money at me to go for them I'll be wary that there may be entrapments somewhere or contractual stunts to say the least. The worst would be plain out assuming the company is so damn bad at their business that they need to resort to giving money so people will go try them. Add such awesome press release (and hopefully a mocking ad campaign) and you have full blown marketing disaster for AT&T!

    The best promotion is to offer what the consumer wants at affordable prices. Simple as that.

    The question whether T can deliver the experience remains to be answered by people with more contact with the telco than me...

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    • icon
      That Anonymous Coward (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 5:41am

      Re:

      And now people have a reason to try T and see if its better or not... AT&T will buy you back if you hate it.

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      Anonymous Howard (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 5:51am

      Re:

      You underestimate the stupidity and greed of people.
      The same people who get themselves trampled on black fridays. Who collect coupons and buy useless stuff because it's on sale etc etc.

      Think of how stupid the average person is, and then this: half of the people is dumber then the average.

      We'll see if it's really works out as you think, or as lord vader thinks.

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      • identicon
        David, 29 Jan 2014 @ 6:19am

        Re: Re:

        Think of how stupid the average person is, and then this: half of the people is dumber then the average.

        The main question I see here is how high the ratio of people may be who don't understand enough of statistics to comprehend the difference between average and median but are still confident enough to pretend otherwise.

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        • identicon
          Anonymous Coward, 29 Jan 2014 @ 6:49am

          Re: Re: Re:

          To be fair, dumbness probably doesn't have a scale. People on university have convinced me that IQ is not a meaningful measure of how "dumb" people are.

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          Spointman (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 6:53am

          Re: Re: Re:

          Interesting. Many years ago, I remember being taught that in statistics, "average" is a generic term that can refer to the mean, the median, or the mode. Depending on what you're analyzing, any of the three could be the "average" representation of your data. In common parlance, "average" almost always means the mean, though.

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        • icon
          Anonymous Howard (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 7:05am

          Re: Re: Re:

          Or maybe it's just a simple language barrier (not everybody's native language is english you know..), but go ahead, smartass your way to fame.

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          • identicon
            David, 29 Jan 2014 @ 7:50am

            Re: Re: Re: Re:

            If you cannot abide "smartasses", writing a paragraph like
            Think of how stupid the average person is, and then this: half of the people is dumber then the average.
            might be drawing the wrong kind of company.

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            • icon
              Anonymous Howard (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 11:52pm

              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

              Don't you worry, pal, I don't mind a few trolls around me.

              You can have your ego trip, and the rest of the commenters got my point, so it's no concern to me.

              Also, try to reply to the others who explained why you're wrong and unnecessary in correcting me.

              link to this | view in chronology ]

          • identicon
            Anonymous Coward, 29 Jan 2014 @ 3:35pm

            Re: Re: Re: Re:

            No, no, you just don't know what average means.

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          • identicon
            Anonymous Coward, 30 Jan 2014 @ 5:38am

            Re: Re: Re: Re:

            Or maybe it's just a simple language barrier (not everybody's native language is english you know..)

            I've heard this saying often enough from people whose first language is English.

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            • icon
              Anonymous Howard (profile), 30 Jan 2014 @ 6:10am

              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

              Az eny�m a Magyar, de igaz�b�l nem �rdekel, hogy elhiszed e vagy sem.

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        • icon
          OldMugwump (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 9:48am

          Average vs Median

          When it comes to intelligence, the distribution seems to be normal, and the numbers of people involved are large, so the median is pretty much exactly the mean.

          So - what exactly are you complaining about in Anonymous Howard's statement? He's right.

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          • identicon
            David, 29 Jan 2014 @ 12:12pm

            Re: Average vs Median

            If the distribution of intelligence is supposed to be normal and the mean is 100, then an IQ of 150 would be just as likely as one of 50, and an IQ of 200 would be just as likely as one of 0, and one of 220 just as likely as one of -20.

            I am less than convinced. Since I don't consider it likely that the definition of IQ allows for negative values, the distribution is more likely to be lognormal or something else, but not a symmetrical distribution in the range (-∞,∞).

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              colidog (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 2:23pm

              Re: Re: Average vs Median

              "If the distribution of intelligence is supposed to be normal and the mean is 100, then an IQ of 150 would be just as likely as one of 50, and an IQ of 200 would be just as likely as one of 0, and one of 220 just as likely as one of -20."

              What? Except anything outside of 145 and 55 on a cog battery is beyond 3 SD and is so rare that it doesn't really have an effect. Cognitive assessments are normed on such a massive data set that, as others have mentioned, the average is essentially the same as the median. Just like any large data set that fits under a normal curve.

              Source: This is my job

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        • identicon
          Kyle, 29 Jan 2014 @ 3:10pm

          Re: Re: Re:

          Thank you David. You're correct, half of people are dumber than the median, not the average.

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        • identicon
          Richhenk, 29 Jan 2014 @ 3:11pm

          Re: Re: Re:

          IQ is a bell curve, so average(mean), median, and mode are all the same. /smh.

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          nathan (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 8:34pm

          Re: Re: Re:

          Measures of intelligence generally show normal distribution, in which case mean and median are the same.

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        • icon
          G Thompson (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 10:38pm

          Re: Re: Re:

          That's just *drum roll* mean

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      • identicon
        John Nemesh, 29 Jan 2014 @ 9:03am

        Re: Re:

        "Think of how stupid the average person is, and then this: half of the people is dumber then the average."

        Um...irony is a bitch, but that should read: "Half of the people ARE dumber THAN the average."

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          OldMugwump (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 9:50am

          Re: Re: Re:

          No, no, it should read "Half of the people BE dumber than the average".

          (English as she is used.)

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            btrussell (profile), 30 Jan 2014 @ 4:46am

            Re: Re: Re: Re:

            No, no, it should read "Half of the people BE SMARTER than the average".


            One more thing, not just to whoever I am replying to here, you're all wrong.

            About 50% will be average, leaving 25% each for above and below.

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      • identicon
        DogBreath, 29 Jan 2014 @ 9:20am

        Re: Re:

        We'll see if it's really works out as you think, or as lord vader thinks.

        With AT&T involved, we all know how it will really turn out.

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      • icon
        AricTheRed (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 10:16am

        Re: Re: Anonymous Howard

        As you can see, my young apprentice, your friends have failed. Now witness the firepower of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL IGNORANCE STATION!!!

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      • icon
        fineas (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 2:25pm

        Re: Re:

        At LEAST half, or more!

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      • identicon
        steve, 29 Jan 2014 @ 3:04pm

        Re: Re:

        George Carlin. Amen.

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      • identicon
        Mitchell, 29 Jan 2014 @ 5:54pm

        Re: Re:

        I think you're one them.

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      • identicon
        jim, 29 Jan 2014 @ 7:16pm

        Re: Re:

        half of the people is dumber then the average.


        Are.

        Than.

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        • icon
          Anonymous Howard (profile), 30 Jan 2014 @ 1:58am

          Re: Re: Re:

          "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."
          -George Carlin

          So no, it's "is".

          And Mitchell, you're free to think whatever you want. Here's another quote for you:
          "Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks"

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      • icon
        Anonymous Howard (profile), 30 Jan 2014 @ 12:07am

        Re: Re:

        Seriously? 8 pages of comments on two grammar and a semantic mistake (with English a non-native language for me)? You guys have way too much free time.

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          btrussell (profile), 30 Jan 2014 @ 5:03am

          Re: Re: Re:

          We need an indicator letting us know that English is not the persons native language.

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          • icon
            Anonymous Howard (profile), 30 Jan 2014 @ 5:32am

            Re: Re: Re: Re:

            Or just cut back on the grammar nazism a bit.

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            • icon
              btrussell (profile), 30 Jan 2014 @ 9:12am

              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

              Not just for that reason.

              It will help with comprehension. If I am offended by something you say, seeing that English is not your native language, it may give me pause to consider exactly what it is you are trying to say. Maybe I see that it was not your intent to offend and/or I can ask for clarification on what you meant.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 29 Jan 2014 @ 3:50pm

      Re:

      Because everyone at AT&T were too busy stomping on kittens and playing frisbee with newborn babies to notice anything going on outside the money-counting Throneroom of ultimate evil? (AT&T HQ)

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    mdpopescu (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 6:09am

    Think of how stupid the average person is, and then this: half of the people is dumber then the average.


    Ouch. That was painful.

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    • identicon
      IronM@sk, 29 Jan 2014 @ 7:39am

      Re:

      I'll say. Reading 'then' where it should be 'than' is always painful, not to mention the is/are thing.

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    • identicon
      sambo, 29 Jan 2014 @ 8:02am

      Re: average intelligence

      I actually saw some guy once argue that we should feel sorry for stupid people, for as scarily you point out, 50% of the population is below average intelligence.

      Given the very small numbers that become politicians and/or CEO's, I am guessing that their ration numbers are even more skewed towards dumbness...

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      • icon
        akp (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 9:12am

        Re: Re: average intelligence

        The problem with that argument is that "average" intelligence is still probably intelligent enough for people to navigate their jobs and lives.

        Yeah, not everyone is going to be a rocket surgeon, but not everyone needs to be either.

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        John Fenderson (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 9:19am

        Re: Re: average intelligence

        "50% of the population is below average intelligence."

        It's the old joke: you know how dumb the average person is? Well, half of everybody is even dumber than that.

        But, putting on my pedant hat, that's not exactly so. It's confusing the average with the median! Also, it's a meaningless thing to say -- an IQ of 100 is the average by definition. People with an IQ of 100 now may or may not have the same level of intelligence as people with an IQ of 100 a hundred years ago, or a hundred years into the future. The "amount" of intelligence it represents changes to match the average. Also, it's so difficult to measure (or even define) intelligence that talking about it without a context is fundamentally meaningless. There are many kinds of intelligence.

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        • identicon
          Anonymous Coward, 29 Jan 2014 @ 12:33pm

          Re: Re: Re: average intelligence

          It's confusing the average with the median!

          Exactly what I was gonna say.


          Also, it's a meaningless thing to say -- an IQ of 100 is the average by definition.

          Now, let's not confuse IQ with intelligence.

          But, for the sake of discussion, if we were going to do that, isn't the measurement of IQ fit to a Normal Distribution? In that case, the Median IQ is the same as the Average IQ, and so it is true that half the population is indeed below average IQ.

          Though, again, that doesn't necessarily mean actual intelligence, by any definition more comprehensive than simply "IQ" fits the same distribution.

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            colidog (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 2:37pm

            Re: Re: Re: Re: average intelligence

            This is correct. The sample size is so large that the data set under a normal curve divides the scores 50/50. The median is essentially the same as the average in this case.

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    • identicon
      antymat, 29 Jan 2014 @ 2:21pm

      Statistics is far to complicated...

      Ouch. That was painful.

      Very. Like - take IQ of 4 persons: 90, 90, 90, 130. Average is 100. And of course half of them are below average, right?
      Or is it that someone is lousy at statistics?

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        colidog (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 2:29pm

        Re: Statistics is far to complicated...

        Except the sample size for IQ is so large that the median (100) does in fact represent a close approximation to the average, just like any large data set under a normal curve.

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      • identicon
        Richhenk, 29 Jan 2014 @ 3:16pm

        Re: Statistics is far to complicated...

        The problem with this is that you are using a biased sample. If you used a random sample you would receive IQs: 90, 95, 105, 110.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 29 Jan 2014 @ 3:39pm

      Re:

      Its a george carlin quote

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 29 Jan 2014 @ 6:19am

    The only Weakness T-mob has is its limited network coverage....really if they can upgrade that shit they're gonna get a lot of people to switch from other networks.

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    • identicon
      Phil, 29 Jan 2014 @ 6:35am

      Re:

      In other words their only weakness is that in a lot of places, their service doesn't work at all. Where I am (New England) there is no point to T-Mobile existing at all.

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  • identicon
    Mike, 29 Jan 2014 @ 6:37am

    TMobile

    So I was recently up for contract renewal (Verizon) and I looked at T-Mobile as an option. My monthly bill was going to increase under them AND I was going to have worse coverage. I don't understand why people think T-Mobile is somehow a better carrier.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 29 Jan 2014 @ 6:48am

      Re: TMobile

      No contracts.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

      • identicon
        Tedward, 29 Jan 2014 @ 5:49pm

        Re: Re: TMobile

        Except for the 24 month contract you have to sign for the phone. Granted, you can provide your own phone, but for an LTE capable device, used (first one T-Mobile carried was the S3), you're still probably paying about $200, and if I was an enterprising person who had one, I would drive that price up. Something new that's going to be technologically relevant for the next three, four years will still, when the dust settles, end up costing you $600-700. An iPhone (T-Mobile carries and only supports the 5, 5S, and 5C. Others will work, but only on Edge data) is going to be at least $700. So you're still locked in, and if you're not, you're likely using a device that will be obsolete in the next year. With your phone payments and service charge, you're looking at per month charges right in the Verizon neighborhood, more if you're tacking on unlimited data ($20 per line) and jump for upgrades every 6 months and phone protection ($10 per line). T-Mobile is marketing nickel-and-diming like pros.

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          John Fenderson (profile), 30 Jan 2014 @ 6:23am

          Re: Re: Re: TMobile

          Do many people actually upgrade their phone every 6 months? That's crazy. Phones hardly become obsolete in a year. I've had my current phone for two years, and it's still nowhere near obsolete. And phone protection? I assume people who buy that are also people who buy extended warranties, so they're not terribly concerned with costs.

          In any case, the economics still don't work in favor of buying a phone over time from the cell provider. You'll be paying far more than what you would have paid if you just bought the phone outright from the manufacturer.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 29 Jan 2014 @ 6:49am

      Re: TMobile

      Also, I am an AT&T customer and I have terrible service when I am at home. The network drops off every single minute.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

      • identicon
        even more of a coward, 29 Jan 2014 @ 11:24am

        Re: Re: TMobile

        I have the same trouble with T-Mobile at my house: it just can't penetrate the walls. But the good is that T-Mobile's phones just jump on your wifi automatically and use VOIP. This is how I survive.

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    • icon
      Violynne (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 6:53am

      Re: TMobile

      Not if you buy your phone outright. If you do this, there's no way the price of T-Mobile is higher.

      Of course, this is the string that's attached to T-Mobiles buyout plan: most people will opt for a newer phone, which they make payments on for 24 months, which increases the bill.

      Get a lower-gen model phone, and this is a pretty good deal.

      It's just a crock that it took someone until 2014 to actually implement it.

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      • identicon
        Anonymous Coward, 29 Jan 2014 @ 11:18am

        Re: Re: TMobile

        Under the at&t next plan, you also don't own the phone that you are signing a contract to get. It's just a rental which you turn in every year for a new one, along with a new contract.

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      Chris Rhodes (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 7:16am

      Re: TMobile

      When I switched to T-Mobile this month, my bill went down, I have no contract, and I was able to bring in my own phone. Also, the coverage where I am now (central Florida) is no worse than it was under Verizon.

      Very pleased.

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      • identicon
        Mike, 29 Jan 2014 @ 7:35am

        Re: Re: TMobile

        >> I was able to bring in my own phone

        I think this is the key. If you're starting new OR you have an older phone, T-Mobile is more expensive. As structured, you end up paying full retail price even for phones like the Galaxy S4 over two years, which could be acquired from Best Buy / Amazon for a cent on sale not so long ago -- it might be $50 now. So you might as well take the subsidy from Verizon built into the contract and pay less overall during the first two years. If the phone you acquire is decent enough, it probably makes sense to switch to T-Mobile at the end of the subsidy. (Also, the issue is magnified with multiple lines)

        The economics clearly don't work out to start with T-Mobile. Even the "we'll pay your early termination fee" offer sucks when you realize that you now have to buy a phone from them. So you might as well wait out the subsidy and bring your phone.

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          ltlw0lf (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 9:22am

          Re: Re: Re: TMobile

          I think this is the key. If you're starting new OR you have an older phone, T-Mobile is more expensive.

          I bought my phone from Amazon, at a significantly cheaper price than what T-Mobile or Best Buy wanted for the phone, and had no problem bringing it in to T-Mobile. I already was using them for a data card so I already had an account. The only problem is that AT&T phones and T-Mobile phones aren't entirely compatible, so you have to be real careful to buy a phone that is compatible with T-Mobile (they use different frequencies for their high speed data, but the phone and 2G frequencies are shared.)

          If the phone you acquire is decent enough, it probably makes sense to switch to T-Mobile at the end of the subsidy.

          It is NEVER cheaper to buy the phone, either on subsidy or otherwise, directly from the vendor. This is basic capitalism. When dealing with a monopoly, you will lose every time.

          The economics clearly don't work out to start with T-Mobile.

          I disagree. The cost of their service is half of what I paid for AT&T. I had a bill for one phone, discounted through my employer, for $130 a month (for 4GB of data, voice and text.) I am now paying exactly the same for a cell phone (unlimited everything* - but they do cap high speed, though I've never seen it) AND a data device (4.5GB per month.) Several surveys have shown that the average price for T-Mobile is below AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint.

          I don't have anything to do with T-Mobile other than being their customer (and I have contracts with their competitors too,) and I've been quite happy with them.

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          John Fenderson (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 9:23am

          Re: Re: Re: TMobile

          I happily pay a premium to avoid being locked into one of those awful service contracts. There are costs involved beyond actual money -- and even in terms of actual money, you'll usually come out paying less if you avoid the contract even if you buy a new phone at full price.

          But in my area, T-Mobile's service is just awful. It's a nonstarter.

          link to this | view in chronology ]

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          Chris Rhodes (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 2:27pm

          Re: Re: Re: TMobile

          If you're starting new OR you have an older phone, T-Mobile is more expensive.
          You have it backwards. T-Mobile is cheaper on a monthly basis precisely because you can bring your own phone. If you get a phone through them, then the price for their unlimited data plan is about at Verizon's level.

          e.g.
          Verizon - Bring a phone: $80
          Verizon - Subsidized phone: $80

          T-Mobile - Bring a phone: $60
          T-Mobile - Subsidized phone: $80

          I brought my own phone, so I pay less per month than Verizon.

          link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 29 Jan 2014 @ 7:47am

      Re: TMobile

      I switched to them last month and I'm now paying $30/month for unlimited data. AT&T cost a lot more for less data at lower speeds.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      rusHmatic, 29 Jan 2014 @ 6:34pm

      Re: TMobile

      Maybe it's because, contrary to the dizzying intellectual power you've shown with this comment, not everyone in the world lives where you live. I've lived in three cities the past 10 years (Boston, Las Vegas, then Austin) and the service has been perfect.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

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    Donglebert the Needlessly Obtuse, 29 Jan 2014 @ 6:52am

    "which has basically been the also-ran of the mobile world for years"

    except, of course, there is the fact that they've got more subscribers than both Verizon and AT&T.

    I think that should read "also-ran of the mobile world in the USA".

    link to this | view in chronology ]

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    limbodog (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 7:06am

    Damn it, that actually kind of makes me want to switch to T-Mobile

    link to this | view in chronology ]

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    artp (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 8:03am

    In other news

    iWireless, the regional carrier in Iowa, switched last year to no contract. You can get a phone whenever you want, and pay for it outright or pay for it over two years. It can be paid off at any time. Insurance is still available. I get to decide which phone to get and when to get it. You can bring your own phone in, but then you have to make sure it works with their network, whatever that means.

    iWireless uses T-Mobile for roaming. The momentum is building, but very, very slowly.

    And iWireless is a GSM carrier. SIM cards are awesome. YMMV.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 29 Jan 2014 @ 8:10am

    They should run a Super Bowl ad with this concept. I hope they do.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Erik Grant, 29 Jan 2014 @ 8:30am

    Brilliant marketing aside, I'm not sure how AT&T's program is any different than T-Mobile's. I mean, they can't really change the narrative at this point, but it could just have easily been AT&T saying "Hey, T-Mobile is offering all of it's customers the chance to switch!". I just wanted to point that out to all of the "omg AT&T is so greedy they are stupid and missed this" commenters I've seen.

    It is nice to finally see some real competition in the telco space though. I was apathetic about the T-Mobile merger being blocked a few years back, now I'm ecstatic. Whoever starts offering true unlimited data again is probably going to get my business, just so I can get off my grandfathered Verizon plan.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      D. Anthony Coyne, 29 Jan 2014 @ 4:43pm

      Re: Erik Grant

      Sprint and its MVNOs offer unlimited data.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

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      nasch (profile), 30 Jan 2014 @ 7:42am

      Re:

      Brilliant marketing aside, I'm not sure how AT&T's program is any different than T-Mobile's.

      Is T-Mobile offering people money to switch from a specific competitor?

      link to this | view in chronology ]

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    Namel3ss (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 9:14am

    T-Mobile >>> ATT

    I switched to T-Mo last year after putting up with AT&T's bullshit for years. T-Mo for me is cheaper, their data plan is better, and overall they're not asshats like ATT. Those are all wins in my book.

    Then they rolled out unlimited international roaming text & data and I was even more glad I switched.

    The only downside is their coverage is not quite as good. But for me it's good enough. If they had ATT's coverage with their increasingly customer-friendly attitude, they'd mop the floor with ATT.

    Regardless, ATT can still suck it.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

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      tracker1 (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 3:54pm

      Re: T-Mobile >>> ATT

      I have to completely agree here... I was with AT&T back in the early 00's, and had such a horrible experience with them, you couldn't pay me to use them again. At one point, they actually called me and offered to upgrade in the middle of a billing cycle on a family plan that was going to go over the allotted minutes. ($10 more a month is a lot less than overage charges)

      I'm currently using Simple Mobile (an MVNO that uses T-Mobile)... the only thing I miss is the conditional call forwarding, but T-Mobile pre-pay doesn't offer it either, only their subsidized accounts.

      I've also been buying my cell phones outright for a few years now... T-Mobile is much more transparent than most of the other carriers on pricing, and really doesn't gouge like the others.

      I'm currently using a Nexus 4, and after 2 years of use, the end of this year, and using an mvno, I'll have saved $720 on the cost of service, more than paying for the phone, and that's just comparing to T-Mobile's subsidized pricing, not to mention AT&T or Verizon. I will say when I travel a couple times a year, I wouldn't mind having Verizon's coverage, but prefer a GSM carrier.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

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    Watchit (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 11:18am

    Haha, wow. Yes, this is probably the best reaction T-mobile could possibly have done. Bravo T-mobile, Bravo.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Ryan, 29 Jan 2014 @ 11:43am

    This really makes me wish that TMobile had decent coverage so I could switch to them.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

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    Xyro TR1 (profile), 29 Jan 2014 @ 2:06pm

    This is a prime example of why I never actually mind paying my T-Mobile bill. It also helps that I've gotten over 100Mbps download speeds on their LTE...

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 29 Jan 2014 @ 3:57pm

    IQ =/ intelligence

    IQ = the ability to complete a written test devised by a fallible human being and thats it.

    There are MANY types of intelligence from creative to analytical and a single IQ test may make some people shine but others not.

    Professor gets 160 IQ but the guy round the corner capable of dismantling a car and re-assembling every single component from memory and repairing any and all faults scores only 90....

    Who's the best one to have when your car breaks down in the snow?

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Jonathan, 29 Jan 2014 @ 6:19pm

    AT&T couldn't pay me enough

    to switch to their crappy metered plans and locked-down hardware. After their collaboration with intelligence agencies, their successful pushes to get retroactive immunity for divulging customer info without legal authorization, I see no moral reason to treat the company's "right" to property or existence with any respect whatsoever.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 29 Jan 2014 @ 6:29pm

    Verizon offers no-contract plans too...I pay $70 flat rate a month for unlimited talk and text and 4gb data

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Sacredjunk, 30 Jan 2014 @ 3:36am

    Great idea, but AT&T can counteract it

    All they have to do is have a little asterisk next to their offer and in fine print write that it is not valid if the customer has been on AT&T in the past year

    link to this | view in chronology ]

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    Sheogorath (profile), 30 Jan 2014 @ 3:23pm

    "T-Mobile Writes The Best Press Release You'll Ever See From A Phone Company"

    Just a shame they now have the worst signal of any UK mobile network company. I tell you right now, if 3 had a similar offer to that of T-Mobile before they cut the 'fair'-usage policy in half (�20 nets you six months of unlimited data, fair-usage policy of 1GB, hit the gig and get slowed down so downloading and streaming are mondo hard), then I would switch to them in a heartbeat.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Payam Tizabgar, 6 Feb 2014 @ 1:35pm

    T-mobile is great

    I have been using T-mobile as an operator for some time now and i am very satisfied with everything they have to offer.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

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