Irony Alert: US Filing Criminal Charges Against China For Cyberspying
from the hey,-look-over-there! dept
Even as more and more examples of questionable surveillance by the US government are revealed, the US is apparently still trying its "hey, look over there!" strategy in response. This morning, Attorney General Eric Holder is announcing that the US has filed meaningless criminal charges against members of the Chinese military for economic espionage done via the internet.Of course, there's no chance of any actual prosecution happening here. If anything this is all just a bit of diplomatic showmanship. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to quickly see China respond in kind with "criminal charges" being announced against folks from the NSA for the various spying that they've done on China. US officials will, as they always do, insist that what the People's Liberation Army does is "different" because it's economic espionage, in which the Chinese army breaks into networks from certain industries and companies, and shares the details with Chinese companies. The US does not appear to do the same thing directly, though there are indications of indirect economic espionage (i.e., spying on companies to then inform general US policy that might help US companies). The Chinese have (quite reasonably) questioned how there's a legitimate distinction between the different kinds of espionage.
Either way, at a time when the US is under intense scrutiny for its questionable espionage efforts, including installing backdoors into US networking equipment (which is what they've accused the Chinese of doing repeatedly, despite no actual evidence), filing criminal charges against the Chinese for cyberspying... just looks really sad. It stinks of hypocrisy.
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There's a reason why the US is the laughing stock behind it's back when it comes to diplomatic efforts and legal attempts such as this. Does the US court believe it will be able to overcome sovereignty to enforce it's findings and rulings? Looks like another kangaroo court to me.
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This is one of the funniest things I've seen today
I am so disappointed that the county and government I grew up thinking were the good guys have been behaving like the bad guys.
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Re: This is one of the funniest things I've seen today
USA has lost most of the "moral lead" and in certain areas it is a moral deficit building up (the imposing of these from the "active foreign policy" is the real problem, not as much the moral itself), but there are no reasons to think other countries are squeaky clean either and no reason to hold other countries to lower standards.
Several western populations have to accept that the governments are not as morally superior as we thought they were. The time of exceptionalism is over.
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Re: Re: This is one of the funniest things I've seen today
In the end, though, the US hasn't a leg to stand on with these issues. It's impossible to scold other nations for doing the same thing we are doing without (rightfully) looking like hypocritical assholes.
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To my government:
I, for one, am MAD.
And ashamed for us all.
Sincerely,
CCC
Concerned Citizen Charles
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Re: To my government:
- The United States Government
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Good agency! Top quality spying there!
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ESPIONAGE
J.P. Getty; FBI File 100.1202: June 26, 1940; Espionage
www.GeorgeGetty.com
http://www.amazon.com/George-Getty-Grant-Daniel-MacDonald/dp/1499597738/ ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1400422231&sr=1-1&keywords=GRANT+MACDONALD+GEORGE+GET TY
http://www.lulu.com/shop/grant-macdonald/george-getty/hardcover/product-21631874.html
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Interesting
is this a reason for extending CR, to ALONG TIME...
THEN getting other governments to Sign a trade agreement that admits OUR CR policy, of ALONG TIME..
So that we (not we, just corps with lots of money) can SUE them?
For OLD TECH? that is obsolete..
We did it to Canada..NAFTA gave our corps the ability to SUE the gov. of canada for a business in canada, that makes generic drugs.
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Karma is a bitch.
What comes around, goes around.
Are you starting to get the picture yet, US Govt?
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Terror! Terror? Terror.
(PS: terror)
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-Terror
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Historical perspective
Early American Manufacturing:
Power Looms
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Irony at its best
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I guess this just makes China the kettle.
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Is it time for people to buy products from overseas or not ?
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I agree with Fenderson--I want to see changes made here, not in China.
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good
What a bunch of idiots, surely they must understand that China probably has more than enough evidence to prove beyond any doubt that the US has spied on them and done worse with this case ending up with the US paying billions to China and possibly to every other country the US has spied on, like most of them.
Actually the best part of this is Cisco , they could sue the US government for every penny they have and will lose in selling equipment to foreign entities.
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Public Relations
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The DOJ hasn't prosecuted a single bankster for the 2008 financial crisis, yet they're trying to prosecute military officials outside their jurisdictional authority? Absurd! The citizens of the United States would be wise to indict Eric Holder.
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Terms of usage
"It's impossible to scold other nations for doing the same thing we are doing without (rightfully) looking like hypocritical assholes.",
Let's get the term right:
It is hypocrisy, plain and simple.
"Do as I say, not as I do."-mantra of the United States Government, brought to you by the NSA, the CIA and a whole host of other hypocritical lying assholes.
I bet the Chinese are having a riotous laughing fit over these charges.
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In other ironic news...
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