Marvel Goes DMCA Crazy Over Leaked Avengers 2 Trailer, Then Puts It On Its Own YouTube Page
from the quick-stop-that-advertising! dept
As the saying goes, death and taxes are both certainties -- as is the fact that politicians lie. But another near universal certainty is that Marvel will totally freak out whenever it gets the slightest inkling that its intellectual property is threatened. The latest head-scratching example of this was yesterday's leak of a trailer for The Avengers 2, which Marvel promptly DMCA'd.The first trailer for next year's sequel to Marvel's The Avengers leaked today, earlier than Marvel Studios was obviously planning. The mega studio originally planned to show the new trailer publicly next week during an episode of television show Agents of SHIELD...Update: The leaked version of the trailer's been pulled from host Tinypic. Looks like Marvel isn't too thrilled about the trailer's early leak.And you can see the studio's point. After all, movie trailers are advertisements, and Marvel certainly wouldn't want people advertising the studio's product to unbelievably hungry-for-anything fans out there. That might, you know, build up excitement for the new movie. What use could Marvel possibly have for that? As we know, now that the trailer has been leaked early before being taken down, literally nobody will see it during the Agents of SHIELD broadcast. Marvel must be totally screwed now, man. Game over.
Oh, yeah, here's the trailer that leaked.
Now, I'm sure you're wondering, "But, Tim, how could you possibly show us the trailer after Marvel DMCA'd the pants off of the leak?" Well, the answer is that I'm embedding that video from Marvel's own YouTube page. Yup, after the leak, and after it DMCA'd the leak because of how awful it was, Marvel then released the leaked trailer, prior to its original intended release, on its own YouTube page.
Which brings me to several conclusions. First, Marvel has admitted that there is no point to issuing DMCA notices any longer; otherwise, the DMCA notice would have been enough and it would have continued to release the trailer at the originally intended time. Second, Marvel hates getting free advertising. That's all a trailer is, after all, and Marvel has decided that the same video shown on its YouTube page shouldn't be hosted elsewhere, by other parties, for free. Makes sense. After all, you wouldn't want people to know about your movie or anything.
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I don't think the problem is the control itself, it's the constant over reaction when the control is lost, or when technology renders the control irrelevant/impossible.
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Then again, you have a problem with anyone that doesn't follow your maximalist viewpoints. So why are you hanging around a place where you obviously don't like?
I suggest your paymasters want you here. Sad thing is you are wasting your time with false claims you never support, never answer, and never have the time to get off your acidic comments.
So enjoy some more report votes. You earned them over a long period of time.
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As a concerned IP consumer, I must take issue with your comment, inasmuch as your flagrant use of the following expressions of ideas without attribution is morally reprehensible. To wit: I trust in the future you will remember this 'dressing-down' and give credit where credit is due.
Sincerely Yours,
I.P. Freely
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You can control your IP without being an imbecile.
To expand: Notice that, despite thousands (tens of thousands?) of DMCA notices being sent out every single day, there's only a single article on TD about it. That's because Marvel did something monumentally idiotic: claimed harm due to the release, and then released the EXACT SAME THING, negating their claim of harm.
So how exactly does Marvel's monopoly control over this trailer -- and their DMCA notice, which they themselves have told us is pointless -- promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts?
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Artistic Megalomania.
That's the point.
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It's either that or Gollum.
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But, no, someone said something that questioned absolute authority from a corporation so we must all be pirates, blah, blah, blah...
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Modern Self-Flagellation
You don't get "control". You get a limited monopoly on copying.
The point of copyright is not to create new forms of property or encourage people to go on mindless power trips. In fact, the mindless power trips are besides the point.
Even if you have an entirely CRASS view of the situation, acting like a spoiled child makes no sense. Your goal is to MAKE MONEY. If other people playing with your toys means that you MAKE MORE MONEY, then there's no reason for you to act like a spoiled child. Quite the contrary. You might want to consider the situation like an adult and realize that some mindless power trip is not really in your interests.
The CRASS objective is to MAKE MONEY, not be a raging megalomaniac.
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No, it doesn't.
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Sicko.
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It's telling that you can't tell the difference.
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They are trying to redirect people
They are trying to find ways to get people to try it again because it is pretty good now and it's starting to set up some more movies like Captain America 3.
That's why they are so upset (and because they are Disney now). Can't blame them for trying.
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They always seemed to work in the ZOMG THIS IS A LAME SUPERHERO SHOW WITH NO SUPERHEROES!!! angle. Any such complaint can be ignored, because the entire point of Agents of SHIELD is that it's not about the superheroes; it's about the less glamorous ordinary folk who have to deal with the ramifications of the stuff that happens in the movies. And when you keep in mind that that's what you're supposed to be watching, it really is an interesting show.
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This concept was done by the X-Files, Smallville, Friday the 13th, Warehouse 13, and so on.
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You're looking at it the wrong way
Having the first airing during the show was the way to get more people to tune intot he show, so yes, it did conceivably harm their interests to have it leaked early to the 'net.
Give them credit for realizing the genie was out of the bottle and putting the full HD trailer up for people quickly.
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Because Marvel is not a monolitic entity, at least some people there dealt with it well:
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false flag operations
https://torrentfreak.com/tag/buckcherry/
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Thus an early 'official' release was probably done as a form of 'damage control'.
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My Theory
Once they realized squashing it would be tricky as it was spreading FAST, they didn't want the crappy version to be the only version, so they decided to release the HD version themselves.
The Marvel twitter account even tweeted "Dammit, Hydra" following the leak. To me, this ranks up there with Oreo's Superbowl Blackout tweet. Genius.
Now, everyone is watching the GOOD version and understandably losing their minds. Marvel gets the good will of releasing the true version, and avoided any criticisms of the movie based off of a poor quality version.
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Of course they would have wanted to wait till it could air on their show so that viewer numbers could go up but still made the best of the situation of an early release.
Seems to me more like the author of this article was overreacting instead of just thinking of this theory and reporting on the facts.
there is still use for the DMCA as in this case it was used on the unauthorized distribution of the trailer. Then just as Trevor pointed out realizing that the DMCA alone won't stop the spread of the trailer they released a good version earlier.
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That's the problem - they didn't realise this in the first place. It should be obvious that when something this anticipated gets out, people will share it and the genie won't go back into the bottle. Freaking out and trying to block the marketing material just because your artificial window was bypassed makes absolutely no sense.
Every company should have contingency plans as to what happens when something leaks. *Especially* marketing material, because you can harness a natural buzz over the leak far more easily than trying to create that buzz artificially. Plus, of course, nothing is lost or "stolen". People have watched the trailer - a piece of footage solely designed to try and get the viewer to go and pay full price for the completed movie - without your direct order to do so? So, by design, they will be looking forward to the movie and pay for it on release? That's... a good thing, surely?
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How does it go? Bad press is still press?.. or something like that...
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Hey, here is an idea. How about if you are going to freak out over a piece of advertising that you created - the EXPRESS purpose of which is to BE SEEN and used to create interest in your product - because it "leaked early" or was otherwise seen by the *exact audience* it was created for, just somehow at the "wrong time," then simply feel free to DON'T BOTHER TO FUCKING MAKE IT at all. Don't make it. Don't release it AT ALL. Just don't fucking bother. We, that exited audience, DO NOT CARE about your fucking assinine "windows" and region-specific and calendar BULL SHIT when it comes to ANY of your precious "IP." Please, we would rather you didn't even bother, than to go through this horseshit every single fucking time a new movie is eagerly anticipated and has high interest from the very target audience you are (supposedly) creating these "advertisements" for in the first place.
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Do you realise how ridiculous this sounds? The movie itself, perhaps I'd have some sympathy, but the *marketing*?
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IP fanboys will go to the ends of the earth to pull another reason to blame "piracy" out of their asses.
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It's all about control
I wonder if ABC (the network showing "Agents of SHIELD" and also owned by Disney) convinced advertisers that this episode would get a larger amount of viewers because of the trailer. And because there will be more viewers, they charged higher ad rates.
Of course Disney/ Marvel is pissed- they had a whole "event" built around the episode and trailer and now people may not watch the episode because of it. So the only course of action is to hit back hard and punish the person who did this.
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I'm glad that I live in a split level head...
Then again, you have a problem with anyone that doesn't follow your maximalist viewpoints. So why are you hanging around a place where you obviously don't like? -- Anonymous Coward (comment #6)
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Of course they hate free advertising
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Aside from that, your statement is a bit backwards. The intended ad revenue for the Age of Ultron trailer was going to be paid by Marvel Studios to ABC (assuming they had to pay, since both are Disney now).
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