You Too Can Finally Join the Modern Broadband Era For the Rock Bottom Price of $20,000
from the pay-and-pay-and-pay-some-more dept
When the cable industry started laying coaxial cable and TV deployments were just beginning, local franchise agreements often required that the cable operators evenly build out networks so that as many people as possible could get service. Those requirements are one of the only reasons millions of people outside of the biggest metropolitan areas even have the cable and DSL duopoly or monopoly they so enjoy today.When the phone companies entered the TV business back around 2006, AT&T and Verizon lobbyists went state-by-state convincing state lawmakers to pass franchise "reform." While some reform was absolutely needed (thanks largely to a smattering of greedy local governments abusing their authority in order to get paid), the telcos' version of reform involved not only gutting most even build out requirements -- but in places like Wisconsin gutting all consumer protections (and even in some cases eminent domain rights) entirely. Obviously making state regulators toothless benefited cable companies too.
Fast forward a few years and there's obviously more than a few TV and broadband landline connection gaps, despite tens of billions in entirely-unaccountable subsidies thrown at cable and phone companies to ensure these gaps didn't exist. Combined with the rise of Google Fiber and the somewhat theatrical industry fiber to the press release response, suddenly cherry picking your broadband deployments has become fashionable, creating a huge new chasm between broadband haves and broadband have-nots, especially when it comes to faster services (three quarters of the country has no competitive choice at speeds faster than 25 Mbps).
While both politicians and industry pay a lot of lip service to shoring up these gaps, the reality is that nobody really wants to fix them, and nobody wants to audit the carriers' deep history of subsidies. When many broadband have-nots then decide that they'd like to join the modern era and get wired, they often wind up being told they have to foot the often over-inflated bill. As Ars Technica recently explored, that bill can be almost comical -- such as $20,000 to run coax a third of a mile:
"Time Warner Cable’s (TWC) lines are a third of a mile from Walser’s house, and the company has received more than $10 million in state funding to bring broadband to underserved portions of New York over the past two years. But the company (which will be purchased by Comcast if the government approves the merger) told Walser they won’t do the construction unless he pays more than $20,000. That’s just to reimburse TWC for its troubles—the monthly access bill would be on top of that."Because Time Warner Cable has no competition at those locations, the company will simply abuse their monopoly position and charge an obscene monthly rate for service on top of that. Considering the billions that telecom companies received to shore up service over the last twenty years (and again, nobody in the history of telecom regulation has ever bothered to do an audit), that's painfully obscene -- and it's a story I've personally seen repeated thousands of times over. Worse perhaps, Time Warner Cable, like so many of these companies, has worked tirelessly to pass state level laws that restrict these communities from building their own broadband -- even in locations they refuse to connect.
In other words, taxpayers got to pay billions in subsidies, then get to pay an arm and a leg a second time just to be held hostage by a company that repeatedly makes it very clear it hates their guts. When they decide to do something about it themselves, they run into state laws prohibiting their right to improve their own area's infrastructure. Yet we're told time and time again by the broadband industry that it's not only immensely competitive, but is a shining beacon to the rest of the world for technology innovation, creativity and government policy.
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Re: laying cable
http://onlineslangdictionary.com/meaning-definition-of/lay-cable
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Not just cable
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So today most rural areas in the US and Canada have telephone lines, but few have broadband (and quite possibly never will)
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Then lets look at how much of their obligations they failed to meet before getting the law changed.
Then we could hold them to what they still owe, have promised and not delivered.
Hell if you look at the little sums it takes for them to buy the laws they want, they could have totally wired up more areas.
It is unconscionable that they have been given so much and not had to live up to a single promise and no one with power gives a shit beyond pay me my "donation" so I can rubber stamp what you want to screw the people who's interests I am supposed to protect.
I'm unhappy with what we paid for, how do we get a refund for services not rendered... that is a reason to void agreements.
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It's like they think they are politicians.
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-Rob
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Costs
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Absent government involvement, land owners are not required to provide rights of way and demand any price they desire, including purchase of the land. You can't just waltz up and demand a right of way.
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Which is either a form of government involvement or it's because private landowners are granting these rights of ways.
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What I took great issue with was the fact that the likely charge for the service would likely have been $200/mo for each individual, rather than including the first year's service as part of that charge for what isn't actually considered broadband by the FCC.
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That's a little different that the story above makes it seem.
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Iv heard this before.
$20k..
As a friend of mine, had this problem..THEN install his OWN POLES for electrical..and told Cable to use them..
Think he paid extra to get it in, dont know how much.. but it was LESS then the $20k..
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Seems 20K is a normal price
In one city there was a local provider that had a franchise agreement with the town so nobody could provide cable but them. I wanted to replace our existing T1 for $950/month with something faster and cheaper. The local cable company with wanted $23,000 and a five year agreement to provide service.
The interesting part about their price is a different ISP that was in the neighboring town was willing to dig us private dedicated fiber for $21,100 and a five year contract.
I have many stories about annoying ISPs and only a few stories about ISPs I like to deal with and don't seem to be trying to rip you off.
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Some days I think we made the wrong choice.
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Oh You Wouldn't Want To Be In Australia At The Moment!
There is the possibility to install your own fibre from your house to the nearest telephone exchange. There are no laws preventing it from being done, other than the fact that you have to hire a qualified technician to install it. The only catch is, you have to foot the entire bill. And that is from a house to a telephone exchange. The telephone exchange I am connected to is about 4km away (approx 2.5 miles).
Broadband in Australia is a joke. We are actually jealous of American broadband! A good connection in Australia is 24Mb. The average connection in Australia is under 6Mb. Around 25% of Australians can only get dial up. A few areas can get 100Mb but this is around 2% of the population. And I'm being generous with that estimate.
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Certainly there are other options as well that do not involve the high costs associated with installing physical conduits.
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It's useful for those who can't get anything else, but it's pricy and limited.
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