Indian Government Orders 32 Web Sites Blocked, Including GitHub, Archive.Org, Pastebin, DailyMotion And Vimeo
from the blunt-instrument dept
According to a developing story in the Times of India, some users in India are unable to access major international Web sites, including GitHub, Pastebin and DailyMotion:
It now appears that the blocks are being carried out on the instructions of [India's] DoT (Department of Telecom). The telecom body reportedly issued a notification regarding the same on December 17. A screenshot of the circular has been posted on Twitter by Pranesh Prakash. The notification mentions that 32 URLs including Pastebin, video sharing sites Vimeo and DailyMotion, Internet archive site archive.org and Github.com( a web-based software code repository), have been blocked under Section 69A of the Information Technology Act, 2000. DoT has also asked ISPs to submit compliance reports. However, we have not been able to verify the authenticity of the circular.
Here's the list posted by Pranesh Prakash:
It's not clear why these sites have been blocked in this way, but Prakash, who is Policy Director at the Centre for Internet and Society in Bangalore, India, believes it may be because of a court order in a copyright case. He also points out that this is not the first time this has happened. However, the key nature of many of the sites affected, and the fact that entire sites, rather than just some of their pages, were blocked, is bound to lead to calls for this blunt instrument to be refined before it is used again.
Update: The Economic Times of India provides more information about what is happening here (via Arijit Banik):
The websites were blocked for hosting content that is pro terrorist group ISIS and not cooperating with government investigations, officials said.
Even so, taking down entire Web sites -- especially major ones like GitHub and archive.org -- is clearly a completely disproportionate response, and shows the dangers of using this very crude approach.
Arvind Gupta, the head of IT Cell, BJP Tweeted: "The websites that have been blocked were based on an advisory by Anti Terrorism Squad, and were carrying Anti India content from ISIS. The sites that have removed objectionable content and/or cooperated with the on going investigations, are being unblocked."
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So about that...
So hey, anyone remember when certain individuals in the US were clamoring for, and demanding, the ability to have sites shut down and/or blocked, based upon claims of piracy, without any sort of adversarial trial to prove guilt or innocence?
Remember when they insisted that such an ability would never end up affecting innocent sites, but only ever affect the worst of the worst, and anyone who expressed concerns contrary to those claims were told that their worries were completely blown out of proportion, and nothing but fearmongering in order to defend piracy?
So with an example like this, about those 'out of proportion, nothing but fearmongering' concerns...
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Of course we do. It was yesterday.
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Welp you get the idea.
the Slippery slope is so damn slippery people keep forgetting how slippery it is!!!
Nope... they actually KNOW how slippery it is and just keep pushing us onto it! They know exactly what is going on, and a lot of people believe their feigned ignorance.
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all the way down!
Its going to be one HELL of a ride!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUpAMtqlIDI
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Well, obviously these site are not innocent. Innocent sites don't get blocked!
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moooh
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In other words, don't worry about all those developers and tech support people who depend on these services to easily share code and logs with their colleagues and customers. Someone, somewhere decided their copyright was more important than your particular business and will stop you using legitimate tools for legitimate purposes. Because someone, somewhere might be losing money and their money is worth more than yours.
Besides the usual free speech arguments, this is literally one set of companies ordering the tools used by another set of companies to be blocked because they're scared that some 3rd party is misusing them. You have to be a special kind of stupid not to see what a massive problem this is...
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THIS kind if thing is why Comcast support is being rated so badly. It's not our fault!
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So what if a number of other companies suddenly find themselves in deep trouble without access to the tools they need to do their jobs properly, you might be losing money somewhere, and there is no cost too high, nor collateral damage 'too much', in the effort required to stem those theoretical 'lost profits.'
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PasteBin Response
Hey guys, if your domain has been blocked you aren't going to get those emails.
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gee, i'm sure that won't have any unintended consequences...
...and archive.org ? ? ? THE BEST site on the innertubes ? ? ? sure, hobble yourselves voluntarily, india...
act in haste, repent at leisure...
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Re: gee, i'm sure that won't have any unintended consequences...
That's the silver lining here. Just looking at the enterprise section of Github, there's some major American companies who use the site. There's thousands of smaller startups and other companies, of course, not to mention homegrown Indian developers who are losing out. But, the fact that some major international players stand to lose money due to the block should mean that it's lifted fairly quickly.
"...and archive.org ? ? ? THE BEST site on the innertubes ? ? ?"
The site had demonstrably been used to host at least one infringing file. Since that means the site is now used for piracy, and it is not used by an **AA member, it should be blocked.
Sadly, that's literally the way they think.
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FTFY. Mistakes like this were inevitable, and the losers would always be innocent bystanders.
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What makes you think this was a mistake?
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I know this because I have heard of people in, say, Montana, getting wireless Internet from Canada, becuase it is all they can get.
A Canadian ISP is not subject to American laws, even if they have wireless customers on the US side of the border.
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Americans have a funny idea about national borders and how international law is applied.
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This also would have made the CDA impossible to enforce on rich people, if it had been upheld. Someone who could afford the cost of an international phone call could have simply dialed up to an offshore dial-up ISP and signed on there.
There would have been no possible way to stop someone from picking up the phone and dialing a foreign phone number connected to a foreign computer.
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The same goes with Mexican cell phone providers. Cell providers operating om the Mexican side of the border are not subject to any American laws, even if they have people on the U.S. side of the border using their networks.
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That's about as clear and unambiguous a match for the definition of censorship ("an attempt to prevent some particular audience from being exposed to some particular information") as I could ask for - and they put it right in the title of a formal government document.
At least they're being honest and straightforward about it...
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Steps have just been taken....
I suggest that the Indian government's time would be better spent dealing with the horrific, systemic problem of gang rape -- a matter far more serious and pressing than kissing the asses of the copyright cartel.
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MPAA and RIAA take notes of this as what not to do. If you want to make the US a tech backwater with an economy that has people at such a loss they can't afford to buy your product, keep pushing for idiocy like this.
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Much like ancient people believed that everything in the universe revolved around the Earth, they truly and honestly believe that everything is, or should, revolve around them and what they want.
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In many (certainly not all) ways, the US is already a tech backwater.
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"anti-India content"
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HOLY SHIT HOW YOU KNOW
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ITS BECAUSE OF HACKERS INDIAN HACKERS ARE THE WORST
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great
much like everyone sings songs of joy every time the latest US data scandal hits the news and companies shed US services in droves in favour of safer European companies.
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Who's everyone? I can see European companies singing songs of joy over it, but nobody (outside of the *AAs) in the US is doing so.
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Been checking the listed sites
So far all of them seem to be accessible. Either the report is mistaken(a prank or troll) or perhaps my ISPs haven't implemented the block yet.
That said, the list provided seems to have very little to do with copyright infringement. Except for dailymotion and vimeo, all the rest seem to be web development and software dev sites. And blocking archive.org makes very little sense.
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Supposedly A Democracy, Yet With This Weird Paternalistic Mentality...
See the responses to my comments (as “ldo17”) here and here.
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Still accessible from India
vimeo.com
pastebin.com
github.com
I haven't checked others, but these are definitely accessible and working!
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url not blocked
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github blocked!!
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India can watch porn, but not share software...Come on!!!
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India can watch porn, but not share software...Come on!!!
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Could have been worse
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it's a hoax
Nothing to panic.
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Access restored
This is stupid, even a monkey can figure out how to use a proxy.
Dailymotion Has a lot of Bollywood movies available so I'm guessing that this is purely anti-piracy action in progress.
They should set up a better system to monitor content instead of blocking entire websites.
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why not block google/twitter
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Why Why Why
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houses in bangalore
prestige song of south
prestige song of the south
prestige song of the south price
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