DEA Collecting Massive Database Of Your Driving Habits In Secret, Using License Plate Readers
from the disband-the-dea dept
What is up with the DEA? For all the focus on the NSA, the CIA and even the FBI, it really seems like the agency that is absolutely out of control is the DEA. In just the last few months, we've written about the DEA having its own giant database of metadata on phone calls (with less oversight than the NSA), how it has embedded telco employees who are able to snoop on subscribers in real-time for the DEA, how the DEA is deeply involved in parallel construction (using intelligence info collected under questionable means to arrest someone and then to hide or lie to judges about that information), how it paid a secretary at Amtrak $850,000 to give them all of Amtrak's passenger lists, how it was (with the NSA) recording every single phone call in the Bahamas and, finally, how it was impersonating people on Facebook.And now, the latest is that the DEA has been building a massive database of your travel habits using automatic license plate readers. These license plate readers have been used increasingly by law enforcement, and the ACLU has been tracking their growing usage for years. A year ago, we wrote about Homeland Security putting out a call for a national license plate reader program, resulting in public outrage. While it eventually scrapped those public plans, we noted at the time that DHS still had access to plenty of other databases of license plate reader data, including one in ICE (Immigrations and Customs Enforcement).
But the latest news is that the DEA also had a huge database of this info as well:
Among the information the ACLU's new documents show, is that the DEA already taps into other agencies' license plate reader databases, including local law enforcement and federal agencies like those in DHS. The records the ACLU obtained note that there were over 343 million records in the database (but the redactions on the document obscure the date of that finding, so it's likely much larger today).The new DEA records that we received are heavily redacted and incomplete, but they provide the most complete documentation of the DEA’s database to date. For example, the DEA has previously testified that its license plate reader program began at the southwest border crossings, and that the agency planned to gradually increase its reach; we now know more about to where it has grown. The DEA had previously suggested that “other sources” would be able to feed data into the database; we now know about some of the types of agencies collaborating with the DEA.
The documents uncovered by our FOIA request provide additional details, but their usefulness is limited by the DEA’s decision to provide only documents that are undated or years old. If the DEA’s collection of location information is as extensive as the agency has suggested in its limited comments to legislatures, the public deserves a more complete and comprehensive explanation than the smattering of records we have obtained can provide.
These records do, however, offer documentation that this program is a major DEA initiative that has the potential to track our movements around the country. With its jurisdiction and its finances, the federal government is uniquely positioned to create a centralized repository of all drivers’ movements across the country — and the DEA seems to be moving toward doing just that. If license plate readers continue to proliferate without restriction and the DEA holds license plate reader data for extended periods of time, the agency will soon possess a detailed and invasive depiction of our lives (particularly if combined with other data about individuals collected by the government, such as the DEA’s recently revealed bulk phone records program, or cell phone information gleaned from U.S. Marshals Service’s cell site simulator-equipped aircraft ). Data-mining the information, an unproven law enforcement technique that the DEA has begun to use here, only exacerbates these concerns, potentially tagging people as criminals without due process.
Oh, and then there's this: one of the main points of the program is to help law enforcement
A spokesman for Justice Department, which includes the DEA, said the program complies with federal law. “It is not new that the DEA uses the license-plate reader program to arrest criminals and stop the flow of drugs in areas of high trafficking intensity,’’ the spokesman said.That's a bullshit response on any number of levels. It may not be new that the DEA is using the technology, but the extent of its usage, and the efforts it has taken to keep it secret are new. On top of that, the fact that its primary purpose is to help with seizures is a pretty big deal, especially given the rest of what the DEA has been doing lately. It makes you wonder if there's any oversight at all on this stuff.
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I'm in a slightly different situation, the money I'm paying is simply being used very inefficiently and going to the pockets of the politicians. Seems it's a bit less bad than having your money come back to screw you :/
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easy solution
or make sure you put a giant penis beside each side of the plate so they get what they really after the fags
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Re: easy solution
Bad idea. A car with a license plate not registered to it basically screams "STOLEN CAR OR OTHER ILLEGAL ACTIVITY GOING ON HERE! STOP ME AND ARREST ME ASAP!!!"
"or make sure you put a giant penis beside each side of the plate so they get what they really after the fags"
They don't want your dick. They want your money and/or other property. The only parts of your anatomy they're interested in are those sufficiently concave that you could hide something in them.
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License Plate != Driver
How many "false" or "counterfeit" plates are on the roads?
How many cars are "borrowed", "rented", "stolen" and then used for criminal activities???
Sorry but any data collected within these databases is questionable at best, meaningless in most cases.
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Re: License Plate != Driver
You missed the point.
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If you can't prove who is driving, it's the car that's criminal.
No need for proceedings like DEA vs. presumed criminal if you can have DEA vs. one shady looking BMW.
As the car isn't contesting the charge it must surely be guilty. Off to the auction or your favorite agent/officer driveway.
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So... another piece of the Asset Seizure Puzzle appears?
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Re: So... another piece of the Asset Seizure Puzzle appears?
I have said it before, but it is worth repeating.
Beware. Clear, logical thinking, like that, can get you listed by your own government, as a possible terrorist and leave you open to extraordinary rendition to a foreign country without due process, where you will be tortured for no particular reason until you die, without anyone in your family or among your friends ever knowing where you went, or why you left.
Oh and I forgot to mention, your taxes will pay for the entire "service".
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Don't question anything. Be a good drone.
You love Big Brother. You love Big Brother. You love Big Brother.
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Re: Re: Re: So... another piece of the Asset Seizure Puzzle appears?
PND is, I believe, a direct side effect of our national habit of armchair warfare participation.
We have learned to always pick one side or another - "What Side Are You On" - in so many areas of life that we can only judge side A by comparing it to side B.
Things that do not have an obvious duality for comparison simply leave us baffled.
Social engineering at its best I guess.
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So we can justify doing something by the fact that it has been done for a long time? I'm pretty sure drug use goes back centuries.
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It would be a license plate reader for any citizen to mount to their vehicle. It would specifically look for government vehicles and especially, vehicles belonging to Marc Rubio and other officials who support spying on our own citizenry.
But there will be filters to remove those districts, etc, that don't have license plate readers and/or demonstrate they drop data if no hits found for stolen vehicles. Also those opposing such collection would also be scrubbed.
Well, at least it's a nice dream.
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The progression (history to future...)
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Of course that not what's happening. Everyone's license plate data is being stored in the national LPR database, indefinitely without a warrant. Which reaffirms that these national LPR databases aren't about catching targeted criminals and terrorists. These national LPR databases are just another tentacle of the mass surveillance octopus.
Catching terrorists, pedophiles, drug dealers, and rapists is just the pretext being used to justify the untargeted, suspicionless, and unwarranted mass surveillance programs which are destroying civil rights, freedom, and democracy.
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This.
I actually have no problem with the use ALPRs in and of themselves. I have a a really, really huge problem with ALPR data being recorded in a database unless the specific license plate is part of an actual, proper investigation.
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They need to be removed. The benefits to society do not outweigh the abuse we have to experience from dishonest law-enforcement.
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I said no such thing. In fact, I am saying the opposite.
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Of course that not what's happening. Everyone's license plate data is being stored in the national LPR database, indefinitely without a warrant."
No, no, no. They didn't KNOW you were a target until later.
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Except that unlike GPS, no warrant is needed.
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This is incredibly dangerous
There are many objectionable things about this program, but one that's (perhaps) less than obvious is that the databases being constructed by it are enormously tempting targets for third parties. To stalkers, kidnappers, spies, pedophiles, rapists, blackmailers, extortionists and other people, this is a motherlode just waiting to be mined. (And the best part? They don't have to spend the money to compile it. It's already been paid for by US citizens.)
I'm sure we'll be told that it's being gathered, stored, and searched securely. And that it will never be misused. And that it will never be breached or leaked. And that it's completely immune from this: http://www.zdnet.com/article/new-report-the-dhs-is-a-mess-of-cybersecurity-incompetence/
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Someone with the power to pool all these tracking resources into one master map could get a very accurate bead on the position of any vehicle they deemed interesting.
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It is a beautiful idea in some ways. They could actually enforce laws we care about. In 200 years historians could
tell the truth about what was happening now.
Too bad about human nature guaranteeing that it is a radically unsustainable time bomb incompatible with democracy and rule of law.
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Then I look around at the country and see rolling brownouts from lack of enough electricity generation, the poor electricity infrastructure, the need to widen nearly all interstates, the poor condition of our education system, the lack of jobs and the economy, the fact that it takes more than one person's wages just to pay rent and realize where all that money is going.
The whole system is eat up with corruption.
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This is the future of elections...
You just know who will win that one.
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License-Plate Logging at Gun Shows
DEA Planned to Monitor Gun Show Attendees With License Plate Readers, New Emails Reveal
https://www.aclu.org/blog/technology-and-liberty-national-security/dea-planned-monitor-gun-show- attendees-license-plate-r
Beware, exercising your Constitutionally-protected rights can easily get you on a government watch-list.
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Well, that's pretty much the definition of what can get you on a "watch-list". If you are seen actually breaking the law, you go to court instead.
So as long as you are not proposing to abolish watch lists altogether, whatever will get you on those lists will be stuff you are actually allowed to do.
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Which seems more likely.
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What is this god damn fetish with using EVERYTHING as a way to spy on everyone
Oh, thats right, tyranitis!
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what technology allows
Now we're talking about laws to prevent the police from collecting such data; if we pass such laws, the police will still do it. In a few years, anyone will be able to sift through a huge volume of publicly-available camera footage (security cams, body cams, dashboard cams, bike cams, traffic cams, phone selfies, quadcopter video, whatever) with a common OCR app and produce similar results. We can pass laws against it, for all the good that will do. The government will talk about requiring that all cameras recognize license plates and blur them-- with predictable results.
We're not far from the appearance of the same thing with facial recognition; snap a picture of a face that interests you, then scan the distributed archives to see where and when that face has appeared in photos or video over the past ten years, anywhere in the world. The government will try to forbid this, but also to have it.
I really don't see that we can do much about this.
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Inevitable Corruption
Instead, in order to continue the flow of cash and assets to Law Enforcement from the Illegal Drug Industry, Law Enforcement will start to protect the backbone of the Illegal Drug Industry - the men and women who control the manufacture and distribution of illegal drugs - and limit its "enforcement" to lesser departments of the Illegal Drug Industry such as street vendors.
I have no doubt at all, that this situation already exists.
When one finds a money tree, it is always better to regularly pluck its fruit over time, than to chop down the tree and settle for just the fruit that happens to be presently ripe.
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If everybody quit taking those substances that are currently illegal tomorrow, they'd make something else illegal to keep this mess going.
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Almost every crime became a drug-associated crime.
The same thing has been done for peer to peer by the legacy industries, in order to convince the public that the new laws concerning copyright and net neutrality are necessary to stem the growth of a criminal tsunami called piracy.
The corporations that are writing the new laws that will remove the internet's ability to be a communication media between people world wide and turn it instead into another commercial garbage can like TV, are the same companies that created and owned the websites that distributed the original p2p software and instructed the public in the process of downloading copyrighted material.
In order to make laws that will hand the internet over to Hollywood, they first had to create a criminal activity that could be turned into "a serious problem necessitating drastic measures to solve." in the public's mind.
If all p2p came to an end tomorrow, the news would still be filled with stories of evil pirates stealing the hard earned money of artists by sharing files.
If everyone stopped using every illegal drug tomorrow, the reports of illegal drug use and illegal drug busts and illegal drug deaths would continue to escalate exactly as if nothing had changed.
We are being managed.
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ALPR + ARGUS + JLENS + MYSTIC = TOTAL LOCKDOWN
ALPR are used to positively identify vehicle occupants at transit chokepoints and match their face and license plate with the geo-location metadata from their cellphone as well as the overhead surveillance - including EO/IR WAMI data and JLENS radar geo-location tracklets.
ALPR allows for radar and cellphone tracking to replace the need for overhead "cameras" by tracking your device (car, phone or WAMI tracklets) and matching it to a hi-res photo of who was driving the car and associate your identity with your geo-location data from each source.
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