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Single Choke Point Problems: Apple Removes NY Times App From Chinese App Store After Chinese Gov't Complains

from the censorship-made-easy dept

Thu, Jan 5th 2017 8:29am — Mike Masnick

One of the wonders of the internet was that it was supposed to be a distributed computer system, meaning that it would be harder to take down and harder to censor. But, over time, things keep getting more and more centralized. And that's especially true in the mobile ecosystem, and doubly so for the Apple iOS mobile ecosystem (at least on Android it's much easier to sideload apps). The latest demonstration of this is that Apple agreed to remove apps from the NY Times from its iOS app store in China, complying with demands from the Chinese government:

Apple removed both the English-language and Chinese-language apps from the app store in China on Dec. 23. Apps from other international publications, including The Financial Times and The Wall Street Journal, were still available in the app store.

“We have been informed that the app is in violation of local regulations,” Fred Sainz, an Apple spokesman, said of the Times apps. “As a result, the app must be taken down off the China App Store. When this situation changes, the App Store will once again offer the New York Times app for download in China.”

The article about this -- in the NY Times, naturally -- says that the paper has asked Apple to reconsider. No one is clear on exactly why this is happening, but the (reasonable) assumption is that it has to do with the new regulations China put in place over the summer that demand all internet news providers must be approved by the Chinese government -- which the Chinese are spinning as part of its effort to crack down on "fake news."

Of course, this really just highlights two separate, but equally worrisome trends: (1) the increasing centralization of connected ecosystems, that creates a single chokepoint to target with censorship demands; and (2) the ability to use hyped up claims about "fake news" to censor legitimate and critical investigative reporting. Neither of these are good to see, and both need to be counteracted.

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Filed Under: app store, censorship, china, news
Companies: apple, ny times

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Anon E. Mous (profile), 5 Jan 2017 @ 8:36am

The Chinese goverment gets what it wants, I am sure they told Apple if you want to sell your wares here, then you play by our rules, removing the NYT app is part of Apple being allowed to do business in China.

The Chinese goverment want to control where and how it's people get the news , the sanitized version and any outside news sources not controlled by China are not on that list.
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- Anonymous Coward, 5 Jan 2017 @ 8:55am
  
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  It probably has more to do with Apple's factories being in China rather than Apple wanting to sell things in China.
  
  More like "If you don't want all your factories shut down and confiscated, comply."
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  - Anonymous Coward, 5 Jan 2017 @ 11:01am
    
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    not sure how you added anything to what the original post said.
    
    Doing business in China comprises all of what you both said. China is clearly a heavy regulation government. You only get the freedoms they decide for you to have.
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Miles Barnett (profile), 5 Jan 2017 @ 9:27am

This is the latest example of Apple's "walled garden". "You can do anything with your iPod/iPhone/Mac that we tell you can do."

This is why I refuse to purchase/use any Apple product.
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- Roger Strong (profile), 5 Jan 2017 @ 9:59am
  
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  It's a trade-off, privacy vs. freedom. Apple dictates what you can do with your phone, but is pretty good at protecting your privacy. Android gives you freedom, but gives every app the freedom to collect your personal information.
  
  The other alternatives, Blackberry and Windows Phone, are dead. (The Blackberry name now licenced to a Chinese company for Android phones, and Windows Phones - at least here in Canada - long disappeared from stores and cellular providers.)
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  - Anonymous Coward, 5 Jan 2017 @ 10:08am
    
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    Use CopperheadOS. Android without Google and better security.
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    - Roger Strong (profile), 5 Jan 2017 @ 10:26am
      
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      Interesting. Apparently its only available for Nexus phones.
      
      That'll probably change by the end of my current contract. Apple finally managed to drag me into their store in the local mall last fall. Though it was kind of unpleasant to wake up with a blowgun dart in the back of my neck.
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  - DannyB (profile), 5 Jan 2017 @ 10:10am
    
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    > Android gives you freedom, but gives every app the freedom to collect your personal information.
    
    An Android app can only do what it has permissions to do. In order to have a certain permission, for example, to look at your contacts (eg, phone / address book), the app must:
    1. expressly declare the permission it wants (otherwise the OS rejects attempts to use this part of the API)
    2. declare whether it wants the permission granted at install time or upon first use of that feature
    3. The user must expressly grant permission ("yes, I want to give application SpamMyFriends access to my contacts list").
    
    The user is asked to grant that permission either when the app is installed, or the first time the app attempts to use that permission.
    
    So yes, on Android, an app can compromise your privacy, if you want to give it permission to.
    
    On the newest releases of Android you can revoke these permissions later. For example, a flashlight app that uses the camera's flash LED as a light. No reasonable flashlight app should need:
    * access to my contacts list
    * ability to record sounds
    * ability to prevent phone from sleeping
    * access to your files, music, photos, etc.
    * internet access
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Anonymous Coward, 5 Jan 2017 @ 9:53am

AOL 2.0
What Apple and Google have built is AOL 2.0. I Was worried Microsoft would co-op the internet, but Google and Apple have in some ways. But most larger websites work and feel like the apps so apps aren't needed in many cases now.
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Anonymous Coward, 5 Jan 2017 @ 9:54am

China blocks Google apps entirely, so it's not like Apple has any choice if it wants to make any money in China.
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- Anonymous Coward, 5 Jan 2017 @ 1:10pm
  
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  China blocks Google apps entirely, so it's not like Apple has any choice if it wants to make any money in China.
  
  Sounds like Google has some suck-up catching up to do if it wants to keep up with Apple.
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Anonymous Coward, 5 Jan 2017 @ 10:20am

TL:DR; NYT prints something that terrifies the feeble and weak chinese government.

Wonder how long they can keep the fact that they're THIS CLOSE to a revolution a secret from their own people?
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John85851 (profile), 5 Jan 2017 @ 10:55am

First they came for the NY Times...
... and how soon will it be until China pressures Apple to remove all US media sources from the China app store? After all, any media that the government doesn't like can easily be labeled "fake news".
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My_Name_Here, 5 Jan 2017 @ 5:08pm

I guess you just don't get it.

China wants control over what is able to be seen in their country, and they will do what is needed. Already, they have structured their internet connections to the world in such a way that they can easily control the content through firewalls and such. China could probably pull the plug on all external links and still operate an internet of their own, they are that well structured. Russia is jealous!

Apps are the next frontier. Information can flow into an app that isn't as easily packet scanned and detected. Without another way to control those apps, the best way for China to handle it is to make the app unavailable in China. Since they can't control the content, they control the delivery.

It really isn't a big deal, it's the same reason why CNN randomly goes off the air in China when something important happens.
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- Anonymous Coward, 9 Feb 2017 @ 1:05am
  
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  Yeah, yeah, we already know that government control gives you the warm fuzzies inside.
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Takumi (profile), 10 Jan 2017 @ 2:30pm

How national laws should relate to the internet is such a tricky subject, honestly. You want to say (or rather, governments do) that everything done online should be subject to the offline laws of a citizen's nation, but when it comes to things like geoblocking, region-specific censorship, GEMA obscuring every other youtube video in Germany with the excuse of "copyright!", threats to hold liable domain registrars and ISPs because they don't perform enough censorship, weird claims that a US embargo with Iran means you can't let them have source code of free software (???), just any time a government wants to take the internet and strangle it to prevent the ungodly horror of information flowing through it they don't particularly like because they don't know what else to do it's just like, we're living in the future now, I thought we were beyond this primitive stage of humanity. There has to be a better way.
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iOS Geek, 12 Jul 2017 @ 7:36am

Sounds like yet another day in China! They always try to block / shutdown stuff on their people.
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