Brewery Sues Competitor Over Schooner Logos And Use Of The Word 'Head'
from the come-sail-away dept
Another day, another sigh-inducing trademark dispute in the craft beer industry. As we've discussed for some time now, the beer industry has a massive problem on its hands in the form of a deluge of trademark disputes between competitors. This has largely been the result of a huge uptick in craft brewers opening new businesses saddled alongside the tradition of creatively naming different beers and the limitations of the English language. Sometimes, however, you get a good old fashioned trademark dispute where one side is simply claiming similarities so tenuous as to be laughable.
Introducing Shipyard Brewing Co., which is suing Logboat Brewing Company claiming that because the latter both uses an image of a schooner on its label for its Shiphead beer brand and because the name of the beer includes the word "head" at all, that its a trademark violation. Let's deal with each in order, mostly because simply putting the beer labels side by side should allow us to take the schooner portion of the claim off the list of things we'll take seriously quite easily.
Do both labels use the image of a schooner? Yup! Are those uses, or the labels themselves, even remotely similar? Hell no! Shipyard's label is a picture of a schooner on the water, whereas Logboat's label is dominated by an image of a woman with a schooner for a head. You know, "shiphead." The beer labels themselves aren't remotely similar so as to rise to the level of trademark infringement.
Which Shipyard likely realizes, which is why they're lacing this trademark suit with the following claims: its the combination of the label and Logboat's use of the word "head" and the name it gave its outdoor seating area near the brewery that creates the customer confusion.
Shipyard further owns and has used other trademarks that contain the term HEAD as a suffix in relation to its beers, including, but not limited to, PUMPKINHEAD, MELONHEAD, and APPLEHEAD. Shipyard’s family of SHIPYARD, SHIP, and HEAD marks (collectively “Shipyard’s Trademarks”) all were in use and/or registered prior to Logboat’s earliest priority date of February 20, 2014.
The suit goes on to note that Logboat refers to its outdoor eating area as "the shipyard", which, yeah, the brewery has a boating theme. But with all of the examples of "ship" and "head" related trademarks owned by Shipyard, what the company chiefly demonstrates is that it does not have a trademark registered for "shiphead." The owner of that mark is Logboat, actually, which was registered in 2014 at which time no opposition was raised against it by Shipyard or anyone else. Logboat took to social media to explain:
“Logboat’s Shiphead Ginger Wheat trademark was registered by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office following examination by a trademark examiner,” the statement said, “and successfully passed though the public opposition phase. Logboat’s mark was never challenged during the registration process as being likely to cause confusion with the trademark of any other party.”
What Shipyard is trying to do is string two or three tenuous trademark issues together and weave it into a valid trademark lawsuit. It's very unlikely to work, however, given how dissimilar the logos and marks are.
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Filed Under: beer, head, schooners, shiphead, shipyard, trademark
Companies: logboat brewing, shipyard brewing
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Error?
Don't you mean "Shipyard is trying to do"? Or am I missing something?
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"Well you see, Trump has 5 words in his last name, and 5 is the number of letters in demon, so clearly Trump is a demon!"
No, Trump is an idiot, which is also five letters, but there is no conspiracy.
Shipyard, Longboat's beer labeling has nothing to do with you. And while I've never tried either of your products, I'm inclined to think the Peruvian ginger, coriander, and lemon beer from Longboat is probably better than your generic piss ale.
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I blame the second whiskey.
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Um yea
Therefore one might conclude that shipyard's CEO is quite likely a shithead.
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Wow
Mediocre beer. :/
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Uhoh
https://www.facebook.com/pg/ShipyardBrewing/reviews/
And check this out.
http://portland.bangordailynews.com/2016/12/14/news/who-should-have-to-pay-for-2-6-million-bottl es-worth-of-bad-pumpkin-beer/
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Re: Re: Wow
Number of times Pixelation mentioned 'shit': 2
Number of time you mentioned 'feces': 7.
But yeah, they are the one with the fixation... and you wonder why you keep getting reported.
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I think they look similar
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Re: Uhoh
Shipyard is a GREAT brewery, and it makes FANTASTIC and delicious products. Of course others want to look like them, but it takes more than a similar label to replicate this level of quality. That's what this lawsuit is about, right, try to point out a cheap knockoff that tries to unfairly leverage a well known, respected, and very high quality brand, like Mercedes, or Dior.
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"But MGM's Pumpkinhead is a movie!" you might say. "Nobody's going to confuse it with Pumpkinhead beer!" In which case, I'd respond with the suggestion that you might not have seen many trademark dispute cases...
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You know…
If you spent half as much time putting together a coherent argument as you do crafting your trollish comments, you might end up with at least one-quarter of a coherent argument.
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I have a simple response to this.
Bullshit.
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Well, the cans are similar shapes.
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You're probably too dumb to realise how stupid that looks, but you sure love yourself some girly movies, which explains why you overcompensate.
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Not cool!
You did not need to insult warm carrot juice like that.
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Re: Not cool!
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When your words betray you, maybe you should stop saying things.
You made comments in the past about “feminine arguments”. You insist that everyone who disagrees with you is a woman (the same woman, in fact). The “Mean Girls” label that you have relied on as of late reinforces the prior two points. We do not need you to say you believe that women cannot have a valid argument; your comments have already implied as much.
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Yes.
"Use your silly lady arguments"
I somehow doubt you're trying to say that "lady arguments" are valid, since if you did you wouldn't be so desperate to pretend that we weren't male.
I do love the fact that your reaction is to act like a hormonal teenage girl, though. It must be sad for you, wanting so desperately to be like the characters in your favourite movie, but then realising this is impossible. Having your only release to try and act so manly on your favourite blog.
I pity you. It's OK, I don't mind being the target for your therapy if this is what you need to face the world. One day, you'll be able to face reality again.
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Re: Error?
After all, the author was confused... :)
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Oi.
No.
The word “shit” may be profane, sure. A word’s status as a profanity, however, does not make it “off-limits” in an argument. We can all understand “bullshit” as a form of shorthand for “fallacious, nonsensical, or otherwise ridiculous arguments or statements”. The word’s profane status also gives it power when used in sparing doses. Say it 600 times and it loses any capacity to shock; say it once at the right time and it punches you in the gut.
“Bullshit” serves a useful purpose in arguments. Implying that women cannot craft an argument does not.
“Feeling things other than contempt? GAWD, what a woman!”
…the hell, did I walk into the 1980s? QUICK, SOMEONE STOP MAKING DONALD TRUMP FAMOUS!
Pot, kettle, vantablack.
Did that, moving on, try to keep up.
Says the guy who keeps flinging insults like “Mean Girl” and making up nonsensical arguments to keep trolling the comments section of a technology blog that he obviously hates but keeps wasting his valuable time trolling because he has little else better to do with his vapid life other than staying up in the wee hours of the morning to troll a bunch of people and jerk himself off at how many replies he gets. That about the gist of your entire operation here, or are you going to call “bullshit” on that?
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When did I do that? Be specific.
"Oh, sorry, is your actual gender "irrelevant"?"
To any argument I make that's not related to my gender? Absolutely. The set of genitals anyone here possesses has nothing to do with the legal and technical issues being discussed on this forum.
Yet, you're the one who keeps bringing gender up. Almost as if it's always at the forefront of your mind. I wonder what deep-seated issues have left you with such a low opinion of women yet retain an obsession with their entertainment media.
I apologise to other readers on this forum who wanted to read a discussion on trademark law rather than your gender issues, but since it's clear that your system isn't providing the mental healthcare you so desperately require I'm happy to help.
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Really, Mean Girl? Not actually. A word "punches you in the gut"? Only in your pretty little head.
" jerk himself off at how many replies he gets"
You are displaying your sexual starvation, Wendy. I said nothing sexual, and yet again, you bring up sex-acts, just like before. Not attractive!
And another fake apology, you use that "Mean Girl" tactic a lot, right? Pretty old, used again and again, not attractive either!
My post was about the mis-use of profanity in the place of an argument, specifically the word sh*t. You have replied umpteen times with no rational argument at all. You talk about excrement, about masturbation, about genitals, you really scream sexual frustration. I don't. I am on the side of reasonable discourse, trying to serve the public good of discouraging the use of excrement and inappropriate sexual language.
Neither of you denied being females posing as men. Your male names that you apparently made up, along with your male profiles, are obvious to even the casual observer. Embarrassed a little, Mean Girls?
This is my small contribution to the public, to try to point out the inappropriate use of excrement as an argument. You, meanwhile, extend excrement into sexual-act behavior and exposing genitals, also inappropriate.
Do you even understand how far out of normal healthy culture you are? Go ahead, defend excrement again, but do it without any sexual verbiage and with a clear argument. Do you have any non-disgusting non-sexual-act argument at all? Have you ever?
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Do you even understand how far out of normal healthy culture you are?
We can observe your true nature from your previous attempts at discourse. Talking and replying incessantly to yourself is not considered normal or healthy in most cultures.
Shiva really needs to consider hiring someone else to be his patsy.
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My point is that excrement is not argument. Fantasy is not argument. The depiction of sexual acts is not argument.
And you, you strange multi-faced poster (and poser), do you have any argument AT ALL?
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I have literally nothing else better to do at the moment. Lucky me.
…have you never really heard the “gutpunch” metaphor before?
You can bind yourself by whatever arbitrary rules of discussion you want. But you cannot expect everyone else to play along. Oh, and the physical attractiveness of an individual, be they male or female, does not affect the quality of their arguments.
You really do need to define this phrase. Also, you need to define why that definition extends only to women.
What does it say about you that you obsess over those things rather than address the substance of his arguments (or this article itself)? I mean, for someone who claims to hate profane content, you love to bring it up at any given moment.
…says the poster whose specific writing voice links them to posts where they ranted about being the descendant of Alexander Hamilton, figuratively fellated Donald Trump and his family without provocation, refused to address how Shiva Ayyadurai had nothing to do with the development or deployment of the major email protocols, and insinuated that women cannot form cogent arguments because they are women.
Then why are you still posting?
See, this is a cute trick. First you imply that women cannot form cogent arguments because they are women, then you imply that all posters are women. Without giving you the kind of information than Facebook requires for an account, no one here can confirm their sex, and you can always say that any given poster is a woman and thus unable to argue in any meaningful way.
But how do we know you are not a woman and, thus, unable to form the kinds of cogent arguments that you claim all other women are unable to make? How do we know, for sure, that you are a manly man with a manly brain between your head and a manly head between your legs?
I would be more embarassed of denigrating half the world’s population just to troll a tech blog.
You are trolling the comments section of a tech blog that, by your own admission, you want silenced by a man who has no factual claim to inventing email as we know and use it today. Do you understand how far out of normal healthy culture you are?
Do you have any argument that has an ounce of substance and does not rely on ad hominem attacks, pointless tangents about nonsense, and “I’m a better manly man than any of you worthless dried-up cunts will ever be” implications? Have you ever?
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Strange, you're replying to me but quoting someone else. Do you actually realise you've having your ranting fit against more than one person, or are you simply incompetent at using the internet?
"You are displaying your sexual starvation, Wendy"
What is your obsession with that woman, and why do you have to pretend that she's the person you're addressing in threads she's not participated in? I mean, seriously, she hasn't said a word here, but you feel the need to personally attack her.
"You talk about excrement, about masturbation, about genitals, you really scream sexual frustration"
I haven't said any such things. Perhaps you should either stop lying, or take enough of a break between your spittle-flecked ranting to notice who you're talking to. I haven't said any of the things you're accusing me of, yet you have no argument to offer against the words I have said.
"Neither of you denied being females posing as men"
Well, you clearly have no idea who you're talking to anyway, so what would be the point?
But, for what reason would we need to? Are you such a misogynistic weakling that you feel that a female target for your ravings makes them stronger? Does it make you feel more manly if you're able to best females rather than men? Are you so insecure in your sexuality?
"This is my small contribution to the public"
It's pretty good, but what is it meant to be? Performance art, or a case study into how untreated mental illness progresses?
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"Fantasy is not argument."
Then why is every post of yours a fantasy?
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This idea really is not that much of a fantasy. Your specific writing style and trolling modus operandi links you to a series of trolling posts across numerous articles on this site. And your specific brand of trolling did not begin until after Techdirt posted that “First Amendment fight” post.
You capitalize certain nouns and construct sentences and paragraphs in ways that suggests English is not your first language. You consistently stylize Techdirt as “TechDirt”. In recent weeks, you have implied that all women are too dumb to form a cogent argument, yet somehow smart enough to win arguments using advanced forms of deceit and trickery. And a great many of of your comments mention Shiva Ayyadurai and his ongoing attempt to silence Techdirt’s legally-protected speech. All of this suggests that you are either an agent of Shiva Ayyadurai given marching orders to troll this site’s comments sections using specific talking points and tactics, or you are Shiva Ayyadurai himself and you have…a great many issues to work out, not the least of which is your all-too-apparent hatred of women.
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Someone needs to look into their operations...
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Quite a list there
Did they use D*CKHEAD yet? Or are they afraid people will think the beer tastes like their management?
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Moosehead Beer, anyone?
I can also name several fine "Heavy Seas" stouts...
I think the solution is simple enough: Brewery name and location prominently on the label means no consumer confusion.
NOBODY buys beer because of the picture on the label, though the pretty ones are nice!
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Appears as though they're using their greater market power to try to bury Logboat in legal fees.
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lots a comment sdidnt read them
NO GO see if i am right lol ..oh don't in the UK its gonna be terror act to look at porn
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That was my point, remember, you mindless Mean Girls?
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Dear Shipyard,
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Dear Mononymous Tim
To be clear WE paid for the beers that we did not ship, just to ensure that OUR customers got the BEST product in the industry.
Thank you for pointing that out.
Have a nice day. :)
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Sigh...
..because it was your idea all along and you never expected your insurance company to cover it. Did you see that part of the article?
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A very interesting trademark infringement case
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