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WIPO Didn't Want The Pirate Party To Observe Its Efforts, But Happy To Include A Group Whose Mission Is To Battle Space Lizards

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Wed, May 30th 2018 9:25am — Mike Masnick

You may recall five years ago how WIPO -- the World Intellectual Property Organization, a UN body that is famous for its maximalist and expansionary approach to intellectual property -- delayed and then rejected the Pirate Parties International request to become an "observer." As we noted, the "observer" process is more or less a formality, and it's pretty common to see everyone who applies get approved. So it was a bit odd that WIPO rejected the Pirates.

And it's even odder when you consider just who WIPO allowed in this year. As noted by Intellectual Property Watch, one of the organizations whose application was rubber-stamped this year to become a WIPO observer is that of the generically named "IP Centre." However, that group's website at the time that it was granted observer status claimed the following as its mission:

Our mission

As a global conspiracy investigation institution with a pioneering awareness raising model, our mission is to create an environment that brings together open-minded people, cultures and ideas from around the world, in order to free individuals and organizations from space lizards’ control.

Let me just repeat that again. WIPO -- which rejected the application of a political party for whom intellectual property is a central plank in its platform -- instead approved a group whose stated mission on its website was to free us from "space lizards' control.".

Space. Lizards.

The webpage has since been changed to some boring boilerplate, but here's what it looked like before:

It's entirely unclear what happened here, though a charitable explanation is someone posted some jokey text when the website was first being designed, and no one ever checked out the website to see what was there (or no one read enough to care) until this whole situation happened, at which time the organization got a bit more serious about its mission. However, it still does raise some questions about the due diligence of WIPO folks.

Though, conceivably, perhaps WIPO is just too busy fighting space lizards to read that carefully.

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Well space lizards aren't that much more fictional than IP maximalism's ability to protect creativity.

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Anonymous Coward, 30 May 2018 @ 9:30am

YES, "someone posted some jokey text"; YOUR only purpose is to
discredit WIPO / copyright in any way possible.

Next STORY, please. Try for NON-"jokey".
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Toom1275 (profile), 30 May 2018 @ 9:34am

Well space lizards aren't that much more fictional than IP maximalism's ability to protect creativity.

If you believe one is real, it isn't that much further of a leap to then accept the other.
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Anonymous Coward, 30 May 2018 @ 9:34am

Clearly the space lizards don't wish to be called out publicly so they took control of IP Centre and updated the web site. You'd do well to avoid such stories in the future lest TD also be taken over. This article probably won't stay up long.
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Anonymous Coward, 30 May 2018 @ 9:36am

Re: YES, "someone posted some jokey text"; YOUR only purpose is to
Do you work for IP Centre? Do you know for a fact the text was a joke? Or are you just assuming the 80% of detail that fits your world view?

Seriously, please fuck off. Nobody wants to read your drivel.
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Anonymous Coward, 30 May 2018 @ 9:36am

Re: YES, "someone posted some jokey text"; YOUR only purpose is to
While your only purpose is to support corporations in their desire to control all of human culture for their own profit.
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Jason, 30 May 2018 @ 9:36am

Their "pioneering awareness raising model" sure doesn't seem to be worth very much.

On the flip side, maybe an expansive and maximalist approach to intellectual property is WIPO's way of ensuring that some knowledge can survive the space lizards' influence.

Fight the lizards in space so we don't have to fight them down here!
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Anonymous Coward, 30 May 2018 @ 9:38am

So what?
They aren't the ONLY group of persons advancing a false narrative around here.

Maybe those pretty pink rainbow ponies will come down and save you from all this burdensome regulatory agencies you all keep clamoring for as though only the purest of driven snow would be poured out by the highest choir of angel(s) or the creator(s) him/her/themselves?

You can't be saved from this in this way... at best you get a little lube before you are bent over... word is many of you like it that way anyways!
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Stephen T. Stone (profile), 30 May 2018 @ 9:39am

Re: So what?
Wow, haven’t seen blatant homophobia around here in a long damn while.
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Vic, 30 May 2018 @ 9:48am

How do I contact them? I have some space lizard infestation in my backyard!
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Anonymous Coward, 30 May 2018 @ 9:49am

Re: Re: So what?
Something tells me you have a low IQ or are on a High dose of stupid at the moment.
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Anonymous Coward, 30 May 2018 @ 10:01am

Re: YES, "someone posted some jokey text"; YOUR only purpose is to
Clearly, you must then be a space lizard - no?
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Anonymous Coward, 30 May 2018 @ 10:03am

Re: Re: So what?
The abolishment of government and a very conspiratorial slant seems to correlate with homophobia and other phobias. Given how much further some talk radio hosts are pushing it with a conspiratorially inclined president I am not that surprised.
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Anonymous Coward, 30 May 2018 @ 10:03am

Maybe space lizard control can help with our infestation, I recommend they start in the White House.
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Anonymous Coward, 30 May 2018 @ 10:09am

Re:
I'm pretty sure that in the White House isn't a space lizard, but a space toad.
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Anonymous Coward, 30 May 2018 @ 10:16am

David Icke & reptilian wingnuttery
Author David Icke is rather famous for pushing that idea of Space Alien Lizards having secretly taken over the world disguised as humans, kind of like in that 1980s TV series "V" -- though I always wondered who came up with the idea first.

Though some people have speculated that 'lizard' was really a code word for 'jew' -- something no modern day [Western] publisher would have ever accepted, despite being much more plausible (or at least less ridiculous).
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Mason Wheeler (profile), 30 May 2018 @ 10:26am

Re: David Icke & reptilian wingnuttery
So you're saying it's a plausible theory that the world is secretly run by Space Jews?
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Anonymous Coward, 30 May 2018 @ 10:26am

Re: Re: Re: So what?
That is quite the mental leap you made there. Hit your head on a low hanging beam during the attempt?
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Wyrm (profile), 30 May 2018 @ 10:44am

Double checked
Wayback machine doesn't show any mention of "space lizards" in the IP Center home page.
It was likely a very short-lived hack or joke that was fixed as soon as discovered.

Also, IP Watch uses Godzilla as an example of Space Lizard. I don't remember anything about Godzilla coming from space.
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ShadowNinja (profile), 30 May 2018 @ 10:52am

Re:
You expect our Space Lizard Overloads to remove their fellow Space Lizard from a seat of power?

Nice try non-space lizards, you can't overthrow your space lizard overloads so easily.
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Anonymous Coward, 30 May 2018 @ 10:58am

Re: Re: YES, "someone posted some jokey text"; YOUR only purpose is to
Space Lizard confirmed.
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Ninja (profile), 30 May 2018 @ 11:17am

Re:
To be fair space lizards do less harm to creativity than copyright maximalism.
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Ninja (profile), 30 May 2018 @ 11:23am

Re: YES, "someone posted some jokey text"; YOUR only purpose is to
Yes and we should be mocking WIPO very hard because they are willing to embrace contribution from pro-copyright morons and block opposing views (even if some may be moronic as well which I don't believe to be the case of the Pirate Parties generally speaking). A process that only listens to one side should be discredited yes.
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Anonymous Coward, 30 May 2018 @ 11:39am

Re: Double checked
What? ... You have not seen the great Space Godzilla?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceGodzilla

Oh no!
There goes Tokyo
Godzilla!
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Coyne Tibbets (profile), 30 May 2018 @ 11:41am

All in tbe name
It's all in the name. If PP wanted a seat, they should have rebranded. No one investigates past the name.

Maybe "IP Advancement League" would have done it? (Doesn't say how they're advancing it. But they can explain that on their website, no one will read it.)
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Anonymous Coward, 30 May 2018 @ 11:48am

Re: David Icke & reptilian wingnuttery
I hereby declare your feeble-minded attempt to draw an antisemite conclusion failed.
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Anonymous Coward, 30 May 2018 @ 11:49am

Re: Re: YES, "someone posted some jokey text"; YOUR only purpose is to
Throw him in the water. If he sinks, he's a human. If he floats, he's a space lizard and should be burned at the stake.

Or am I confusing space lizards with something else?
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Anonymous Coward, 30 May 2018 @ 11:55am

Maybe not so funny. This article (www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/10/how-spot-reptilians-runing-us-government/354496) suggests many government officials are already under the control of space lizards.

Certainly helps explain the IP connection.
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Uriel-238 (profile), 30 May 2018 @ 12:08pm

The IP Centre is crazy!
The Reptilians are from the Earth's outer core, not from space!
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ECA (profile), 30 May 2018 @ 12:29pm

HOW TO:
Hide a lobbyist group under your nose..
https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2013/01/28/10-strange-lobbying-groups-th at-we-swear-are-real

The U.S. Association of Reptile Keepers
Cigar Rights Of America
California Cling Peach Growers
Catfish Farmers of America

https://www.buzzfeed.com/katienotopoulos/20-weird-associations-you-didnt-know-existed?utm_ter m=.ucW9wdxKD#.pdGa6q942

Association for Astrological Networking
The Association for Professional Basketball Research
Association for Christian Retail
Association for the Preservation of the Coelacanth

Lobby groups spend considerable amounts of money on election advertising as well. For example, the 2011 documentary film Hot Coffee contains interviews of former Mississippi Supreme Court Justice Oliver E. Diaz, Jr. and evidence the US Chamber of Commerce paid for advertising to unseat him.

Drug Policy Alliance, whose principal goal is to end the American "War on Drugs".

Energy Lobby, an umbrella term for the representatives of large oil, gas, coal, and electric utilities corporations that attempt to influence governmental policy in the United States.

US Chamber of Commerce, by far the biggest lobby group in the US by expenditures.
The United States Chamber of Commerce (USCC) is a business-oriented American lobbying group. It is not an agency of the United States government.
The Chamber is the largest lobbying group in the U.S., spending more money than any other lobbying organization on a yearly basis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Chamber_of_Commerce
GO READ THIS, its fun..
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Anonymous Coward, 30 May 2018 @ 12:53pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: So what?
Not only are you a crybaby, you’re a closet case crybaby. How retro.
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JMT (profile), 30 May 2018 @ 3:32pm

Re: Re: So what?
Yes the comment is complete nonsense, but I'm really struggling to see the homophobia here.
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Samuel Abram (profile), 30 May 2018 @ 4:46pm

Space Lizards
I, for one, welcome our new Space Lizard overlords!
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Anonymous Coward, 30 May 2018 @ 6:12pm

Re: Re: Re: YES, "someone posted some jokey text"; YOUR only purpose is to
Not that I can see a downside to this treatment of blue. Why not both?
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Anonymous Coward, 30 May 2018 @ 7:45pm

Re: Re:
Pirate Party should claim to be space lizards. Then they might be granted observer status at the WIPO.
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dickeyrat, 31 May 2018 @ 4:47am

Their tactics must be working. We don't actually have any Space Lizards around, now, do we?
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Wendy Cockcroft, 31 May 2018 @ 5:48am

Re: Re: David Icke & reptilian wingnuttery
LOL! Now I'm imagining space suits with tassels around the waist and sidelocks on the helmets.
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Toom1275 (profile), 31 May 2018 @ 6:50am

Re: Re: Re:
Pirate party: "Actually we're space lizards too."

WIPO: "Oh wait, you were one of us all along? Welcome in, then! Apologies for the delay, comrades. All hail Smelborp!"
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K`Tetch (profile), 31 May 2018 @ 10:19am

To be fair...
The IP Center is not that more wacky than PPI. This is the PPI that has had votes on how to conduct a vote on how to conduct a vote (I'm serious!); spent 5 years to try and get a bank account (getting the UK party in trouble with UK financial regulators as PPI has been flagged for money laundering activities), but my favourite was when two of the PPI 'leaders' went to the Bali conference in 2013, and introduced a 'paper' that one of the leaders wrote himself literally the night before - https://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/minist_e/mc9_e/ngo_ppi_e.pdf - and then boasted about it being published, despite their policy of publishing EVERYTHING submitted. When he was criticized for the terrible submission, he tried to blame it on the 3rd member of the group, a woman, forgetting that the method used to draft it (etherpad) shows who wrote what, and when. Following his holiday in Bali, said leader of PPI then pushed for manditory financing by national parties, with the brunt on Sweden, and Iceland, despite PPI having a very German focus. That's when Australia, the UK, Sweden and Iceland quit (the US was never a member)
Oh, and they also 'fired' their entire court of arbitration, when the validity of the German leadership was questioned.

When I founded PPI 10 years ago (next month), it was to provide support for parties, and be a central resources clearinghouse to aid state and regional parties in their national and regional objectives. Now it's become an NGO lobbying group, so that its German 'core' can get cushy lobbying and pundit jobs.
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Anonymous Coward, 1 Jun 2018 @ 3:27am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Smelborp
Damn it! The rorrim elpoep have discovered some problems.

All hail Gortrog the drazil!
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Albert Günther, 1 Jun 2018 @ 3:55am

Look out for Eddie Izzard and the Wizards,
eating lizard's gizzards in blizzards, wearing vizards.
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amozabael (profile), 2 Jun 2018 @ 10:36am

Pirate Party Astroturfing
The Pirate Party should form a shell organization with a more attractive name like: Organzation for the Promotion of Intellectual Property Laws.

Take measures to conceal the fact it is tied to the Pirate Party. Then get that shell organization approved.

BINGO! Now we have some eyes and ears in the WIPO.
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Uriel-238 (profile), 2 Jun 2018 @ 2:34pm

Pirate lobbiests
I think full transparency including announcing cross-institutional affiliation is one of the platform policies of the Pirate Party.

It's much like how the Green Party's anti-corruption policies keep it from getting many financial supporters.
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Anonymous Coward, 2 Jun 2018 @ 7:53pm

Who wants to be a space lizard?
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All in tbe name

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The IP Centre is crazy!

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