Judge Refuses To Dismiss Batch Of Nicholas Sandmann's Media Lawsuits In The Laziest Defamation Ruling I've Ever Seen
from the wait,-really? dept
I am perplexed. Nicholas Sandmann, the Kentucky teenager who had a highly publicized and widely debated encounter in Washington DC is somewhat of a Rorschach Test for how you view the media. There are all sorts of interpretations of his encounter, and all sorts of arguments about the media coverage of that encounter -- and much of it is driven by people's prior beliefs. What should not be controversial, however, is that his ongoing series of SLAPP suits about the media coverage of that encounter are an attack on the 1st Amendment.
We were a bit surprised that (after first having the case thrown out before it was reinstated on very narrow grounds), the Washington Post agreed to settle, as did CNN. Given the basis of the case, and the nature of defamation law, it seemed highly likely that the cases settled for what is known as a "nuisance fee." Less than it would cost to actually bring the case to conclusion, but not a significant amount to either media property. Of course, Sandmann's lawyer has threatened to sue some more journalists and end careers of some who speculated on the nature of the settlements, though as far as I can tell, no such lawsuits have been filed.
That said, there was a long list of other Sandmann lawsuits filed against major media companies for reporting on his DC encounter. All of them are under the same judge, William Bertelsman, and he has now refused to dismiss all of them. The opinions in the cases against the NY Times, ABC News, Rolling Stone and CBS News are all virtually identical.
I will admit that I am perplexed by the judge's reasoning in these cases, which does not seem anything even remotely like any other defamation case I've ever seen. Because the rulings are all pretty similar (with just some slight differences), we'll just go through the ruling against the NY Times and highlight some of the oddities. The judge summarizes the case and then just says "well, I found the statement to be libelous in previous cases, and therefore it is here."
The Complaint is based on the defendant’s news coverage of an event that occurred on January 18, 2019, during a visit by plaintiff Nicholas Sandmann and his fellow Covington Catholic High School students to Washington, D.C.
Greatly summarized, the Complaint alleges that Sandmann was libeled by the defendant when it published a news article stating that Sandmann, while at the Lincoln Memorial, “blocked” Native-American activist Nathan Phillips and “prevented Phillips’ retreat while Nicholas and a mass of other young white boys surrounded, taunted, jeered and physically intimidated Phillips.”....
This news story is alleged to be false and defamatory.... Sandmann further alleges that this publication by defendant and similar stories by other news media caused him to be harassed by the public, causing him great emotional distress..... Sandmann also alleges that defendant’s article “is now forever a part of the historical Internet record and will haunt and taint Nicholas for the remainder of his natural life and impugn his reputation for generations to come.”...
The motion to dismiss argues that this publication is not libelous, but the Court has ruled in companion cases that it is libelous. The Court continues to hold that opinion for the reason stated in such preceding cases. See Sandmann v. The Washington Post, Cov. Case No. 19cv19 (Docs. 47, 64); Sandmann v. Cable News Network, Cov. Case No. 19cv31 (Docs. 43, 44); Sandmann v. NBCUniversal Media, LLC, Cov. Case No. 19cv56 (Doc. 43).
So, there are a bunch of oddities already in here, but I'll just focus on that last paragraph, in which the judge says that "the Court has ruled in companion cases that it is libelous" and then points to those other cases. But, that's not what actually happened. The key case that matters here is the one against the Washington Post. The judge points to two documents in that case: 47 and 64, neither of which have the judge saying that these statements are libelous. In fact, the only thorough analysis of the statements comes in document 47 and it concludes that... what was written by the Washington Post was not libelous. It goes through it all pretty thoroughly and notes that the claims of libel are either protected opinion or not about Sandmann himself.
More to the point, this ruling -- again by the same judge -- says that what constitutes "blocked" is a subjective matter of opinion and thus not defamatory:
This is kind of important, because it's the exact same statement that is the basis of all of these lawsuits that the judge refused to dismiss.
Yet, he says that he found that statement to be defamatory... while pointing to a filing in which he did the opposite. Now, in the later ruling that reinstated a tiny, limited part of the case (filing 64) involving that same statement, the judge says that he will allow for more discovery before deciding on whether or not they're defamatory.
The Court will adhere to its previous rulings as they pertain to these statements except Statements 10, 11, and 33, to the extent that these three statements state that plaintiff “blocked” Nathan Phillips and “would not allow him to retreat.” Suffice to say that the Court has given this matter careful review and concludes that “justice requires” that discovery be had regarding these statements and their context. The Court will then consider them anew on summary judgment.
The other cases that the judge mentions as proving he found these statements libelous only point back to the Washington Post filing... that again says the opposite. So the judge is basing his ruling on the fact that he already found these statements to be libelous when he didn't actually do that. It's the most bizarre thing I've seen from a federal judge.
From there he goes on to quote the same paragraph (oddly leaving out quotation marks where they obviously belong):
As in other cases, the Complaint herein alleges that the defendant’s article quoted the following statement by Phillips:
It was getting ugly, and I was thinking: I’ve got to find myself an exit out of this situation and finish my song at the Lincoln Memorial, Mr. Phillips told The Post. I started going that way, and that guy in the hat stood in my way and we were at an impasse. He just blocked my way and wouldn’t allow me to retreat.
The Complaint alleges that this statement was false in that Sandmann did not block Phillips or interfere with him in any way, and that it conveys a defamatory meaning because it imputes to Sandmann racist conduct.
Note that this is again the same statement that the court originally found to be not defamatory and then later said he would allow discovery on, but over which the case settled before going much further. So I'm completely lost as to how the judge can say he already found this to be defamatory.
The parties agree that Kentucky law applies to this case. Under Kentucky law, a writing is defamatory “if it tends to (1) bring a person into public hatred, contempt or ridicule; (2) cause him to be shunned or avoided; or (3) injure him in his business or occupation.”... The allegations of the Complaint fit this definition precisely.
Wait... what? This leaves out more than a few things about defamation under Kentucky Law (and the 1st Amendment). It leaves out that the statements need to be false statements of fact, for example. Statements of opinion cannot be defamatory. That seems, you know, kind of... important?
The judge then rejects the NY Times' citation of another case in the same circuit, saying that that was under Ohio law rather than Kentucky law. But that ruling was using standard 1st Amendment standards for defamation law that still apply in Kentucky. And the reasoning the judge gives makes no sense at all.
In Croce, a newspaper published an article that included unflattering allegations against the plaintiff, a university professor and cancer researcher. The Court held that, in “full context,” a “reasonable reader would interpret the article as a standard piece of investigative journalism” which simply reported “newsworthy allegations with appropriate qualifying language.”
That holding is inapplicable under the allegations of the Complaint here. Defendant published a statement by Phillips that was made after Sandmann had departed for home, a statement to which Sandmann had no opportunity to reply in real time. While Sandmann had such an opportunity later, and such evidence might be admissible to show lack of malice, it is not a defense to the defamatory meaning of Phillips’ original statement itself.
WHAT?!? That's not how defamation law works at all. The question of whether or not someone has the ability to "reply in real time" has nothing to do with the standards for defamation law. Notice that the judge here doesn't cite anything for claiming this. He just... says it. And, again the other case that the NY Times points to is exactly on point, whether it's talking about Kentucky or Ohio. The 1st Amendment still exists. The fact that Phillips said stuff after Sandmann went home is... totally and completely irrelevant.
Also, let's be clear here. This is a case about Phillips' statement that he made to the Washington Post, which were then repeated in the NY Times (attributed to the Post). If this case were against Phillips, you might be able to squint and kinda sorta, but not really, find a way to say that there's an argument here (again, no, not really). If this were the case against the Washington Post, again, you might be able to squint and see that, which is why the allowance for more discovery was made in the first place. But, how does Sandmann's inability to reply to the Washington Post quoting Phillips in real time have anything whatsoever to do with the question of whether or not the NY Times is liable for defamation? It doesn't.
The judge also rejects the Times' statute of limitations claim, which under Kentucky law is one year. The lawsuit was filed 14 months after the incident. The judge says that since Sandmann is a minor, the statute of limitations is effectively extended until he turns 18. The Times argues that at the very least, the statute of limitations should have started ticking when he filed the original lawsuit against the Washington Post, but again the judge just says "nope." Even though the NY Times pointed to previous rulings that agreed with their analysis of the statute of limitations the judge says that the procedural history in that other case was different (he doesn't explain how or why) and that he "does not believe" that the original case the Times point to would be upheld if it were appealed. Which... is a take.
Anyway, this does not mean that Sandmann has yet won. It just means that these cases can move forward. And that's dangerous for a few reasons. I'm not 100% sure, but it's possible that the media defendants won't be able appeal on this point (this gets beyond my knowledge of Kentucky civil procedure -- but some laws allow for "interlocutory appeal" in which you can appeal specific aspects of a ruling, while others want you to wait until the court makes a final ruling on the case before it can go up on appeal). If that's the case then appeals would have to wait until later in the case, after the case has gone on through more expensive stages -- and that means that many of the media companies (and their insurance companies) may feel a lot of pressure to just throw a bit of money at Sandmann to make the case go away for less than it will cost to go through to the next round.
The NY Times has a history of not caving in cases like this, recognizing that it has to set the standard, so I hope it continues fighting. But it would not surprise me to see some of the other media companies also do "confidential settlements" that many people will judge as some huge victory for Sandmann.
All in all this is a very, very, very odd ruling that does not fit with any other defamation case I've seen, appears to go against plenty of precedent and, most bizarrely, has the judge citing his own rulings in a different case that say the exact opposite of what he claims it says in this case.
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Filed Under: 1st amendment, anti-slapp, defamation, free speech, kentucky, motion to dismiss, nicholas sandmann, slapp, william bertelsman
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Working backwards
With the judge referring to his own rulings and getting them wrong, such that he's claiming different things currently than he did in the past, along with pulling arguments straight from his ass about how defamation works this strikes me as a judge ruling based upon what they want the outcome to be and working backwards from that.
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Weasels
You can't hide behind the 1st Amendment when the full video demonstrates that the events originally reported didn't happen. Just as when police get caught in their own lies from bystander video footage, the media got caught in their own lies from bystander footage. It looks like these news outlets want desperately to escape on a technicality, instead of defending themselves at trial with some facts.
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Re: Weasels
The news outlets quoted Phillips. They're not liable for what he said. The first amendment protects them since they're just quoting a direct participant in the events being reported.
Don't trip over yourself trying to vilify journalists when you don't apparently understand the facts of the case or the law.
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Re: Weasels
Too bad you couldn't read the article before leaping to that conclusion.
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Putting old people on ice floes instead of courts might improve the country.
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I've not seen any studies that suggest the older some one is, the less mentally fit they are.
its true that some mental deterioration is associated with age. However not everyone experiences that as they age, and I've encountered plenty of incompetent people who are young to believe age has much to do with the problem.
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Is Barr involved?
How far up the chain of DoJ lawyers does this go? First, the kid was wearing a MAGA hat, second, the judge did a 180 on previous rulings. How many Trump supporters have had cases intervened from high levels of the DoJ. And a case against MSM.
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Re: Weasels
[Projects facts not in evidence]
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I could launch into a whole diatribe about how wrong you are and go bit-by-bit into that wrongness, but it’s honestly easier to call you an idiot and move on.
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Koby doesn’t read articles. He reads headlines, then jumps over them — feet first into ignorance.
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Contextual definitions in absense of a federal establishment
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...you know he wasn't old when they put him on the court, right?
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Re: Weasels
Hey Koby, one day when you grow up and get out of your ignorant shitposting bubble, you might learn that the law is not "oooooh, I don't like this one bit... because someone I agree with looks bad."
You should maybe learn to think independently of what Fox News and Breitbart tell you.
You can't hide behind the 1st Amendment when the full video demonstrates that the events originally reported didn't happen.
You seem very confused about how defamation law works.
Just as when police get caught in their own lies from bystander video footage, the media got caught in their own lies from bystander footage.
I can't believe I have to explain this to you, but reporting accurately on what was said about a situation based on the existing coverage is not "lying." The fact is that more video coverage did come out later, and all of the media services in question later wrote additional stories. That's called reporting. Not lying.
It looks like these news outlets want desperately to escape on a technicality, instead of defending themselves at trial with some facts.
Lol, no. Koby, that's not how any of this works.
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Well, now this dude will be "exposed to public hatred" or whatever due to abuse of defamation law, the First Amendment, and the courts. Pretty much the same goes for the apoarently brain-damaged judge.
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I love the smell of butthurt in the evening.
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Re: Contextual definitions in absense of a federal establishment
That's not what happened though, the judge didn't say that while the given statements were ruled non-defamatory in previous cases they might be defamatory now due to a different state they claimed that the statements were found to be defamatory, in direct violations of what they wrote in those cases, and then used that as justification to say that the statements were still defamatory.
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"He just blocked my way and wouldn't allow me to retreat" is a factual allegation. People might disagree on what exactly that means. They might even, somehow, disagree on what the video shows. But that doesn't transform it into an opinion.
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Not according to the judge the first time around, even if they're currently hallucinating that they wrote otherwise, but even if it was then his case would be against the person who said that, not the paper that reported what was said, as to argue otherwise would make if effectively impossible for a newspaper or journalist to report on anything that even might be defamatory since in repeating the claims they would be opening themselves up to the same charges.
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Re: Weasels
"You can't hide behind the 1st Amendment when the full video demonstrates that the events originally reported didn't happen"
Funny how you think that rights are something people hide behind, while using the same rights to spout ignorance and misinformation.
Anyway, the press have the right to use their first amendment speech to say what they want. Others are free to counter it with their own speech, and if any abuse is found the courts are free to apply punishment where applicable. This is not controversial.
"Just as when police get caught in their own lies from bystander video footage, the media got caught in their own lies from bystander footage."
So, you don't understand the difference between police taking their own footage then lying about it, and reporters getting footage they did not take and accurately representing what the footage shows?
"It looks like these news outlets want desperately to escape on a technicality, instead of defending themselves at trial with some facts."
No, it means that they believe that people should not be dragged into court for doing their jobs, or for exercising their rights. These are the same rights you depend on to post here.
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I agree with Koby.
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So this case boils down to "he says I blocked him and I say I just happened to be standing where he wanted to go" thats the sort of disagreement that needs the courts to step in in the U.S. these days I guess
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Ignorance can be educated
Crazy can be medicated
Stupid. There is no treatment for stupid.
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On Sandmann's Side
I'm a retired professional journalist, from the days when that actually meant something good. I hope Sandmann collects all kinds of money from the media outlets. He was viciously defamed, and deserves a tall pile of money as compensation.
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Re: Weasels
A Fascist Party/ Sandann supporter speaks out against how much they hate lawful free speech?
How unsurprising.
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Re: On Sandmann's Side
I'm a retired professional journalist
I highly doubt that.
from the days when that actually meant something good
Still does, buddy.
I hope Sandmann collects all kinds of money from the media outlets
Then you were never an actual journalist.
He was viciously defamed
No, he wasn't.
deserves a tall pile of money as compensation.
No, he doesn't.
Point out a false statement of fact that was made knowing that it was false. You can't.
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Yes, but that is not the allegation that matters here. The factual allegation here is necessarily that the news report saying that ``Non-party says `he just blocked my way &c.' ''. Assuming that the video showing the non-party saying such a thing has not been altered, the original news report is true.
And, actually, there may be another layer around it: ``Wash Post reports that `Non-party says he just blocked my way &c.' ''. So, if Wash Post published the report, then NY Times report is correct.
And, like I said, if the video is correct, then the Wash Post report is correct. No view as to original non-party statement is correct or defamatory, that involves fact questions.
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