this is very misleading, many states, as has been pointed out here sell juvenile and adult criminal records to companies that do background checks, even if the person pays to get their juvenile record expunged that dosnt remove the records already in the hands of these companies.
many times it dosnt even remove the court records (despite that being why you pay to have it done)
and 13/14/15yo girls who sent pix of their tits to guys have been made life long sex offenders(as have some of the guys who got the images), no way to get off the list.
theres no such thing as a way to clear your record once your accused of something, much like the internet, anything that happens is there forever.
I suggest removing statutory rape laws, replace them with communicating with a minor laws that are flexable and allow room for the judge/jury to take into account the whole situation and whats best not only for the parties involved but society in general.
Oh Im not defending him, I just dont fell its rape, what he did was VERY creepy and wrong, but it wasnt rape other then in the legal sense of statutory rape.
next, if it causes the 14yo more mental harm then cutting the guy a deal then I feel it would be wrong to persecute him and cause her that harm.
if you read the actual story behind this faux newsish blerb tim wrote, you will find he is being tossed in for 30 dys for failing to complete treatment and being kicked out of one program for minor rules violations.
on the other hand, he finished treatment at another location , hence the light 30 day in jail sentence.
and no, i dont condone his actions, its creepy and wrong, but its not rape, again read the case info, its quite likely they gave him the deal they did to spare the girl any more mental harm then had already happened.
agreed, I also bet you, if this was reversed peoples reaction would be very different, if it was some 14yo boy bangin some hot teacher.....doubt these people would have been calling me names for not agreeing with their vague understanding of the case.
I agree, but, its still not rape, the law says its statutory rape, but, what people think when they see rape is violent threats or beating and forced sex....
its not molestation because shes to old to call it that(legally)
I never said this was OK, I just dont view it as the societal image given to rape.
its quite likely the fallout of the relationship coming to light did her more mental harm then the relationship itself.
again, I DO NOT CONDONE THE RELAIONSHIP, its creepy and wrong....he should have been and was punished for it.(read the full story rather then tim's faux news/msnbs version of the story)
we need a new term for this kind of thing, the mental image society attaches to rape is not what happened here...
my state uses "Communicating with a minor for immoral purposes" after they removed statutory rape laws, these are more flexable and allow for some judgement and a defense (say she had a fake ID that looked legit and you met her at 3am at some bar..)
statutory rape laws have no flexibility they dont take anything into acct but age, not the welfare of the "victim" or anything, thats likely why they suspended persecution and made a deal.
once again, i have never said I support this or agree with it, its wrong and creepy, but its not rape.
all that matters to them is the law says they cant, if the law said they could, this wouldnt be an issue and I wouldnt have these assholes calling me a pedo and shit...
more of the world disagrees with them with reguards to this girls ability to concent then agrees...
oh yeah, spain must be full of pedos and pervs, the AoC there is 13.......(yeah thats a bit to young but....its the law there, and their society accepts it and looks at ours like we are insane...so....)
i suggest reading the whole story and story behind the story, Tim did a pretty piss poor job with this one....very poor research or explanation of the whole situation.
reads like it was written by faux news or msnbc....
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google "low leg" i find the image humorous, the fact it bothers you is irrelevant.
Oh and i never said i agreed with it, I just find it odd how our country is one of the few with laws like this and such high age of concent.
i prefer women closer to my own age honestly, they tend to be more stable then young ladies.(mentally that is)
I just dont feel it should be called rape.
another thing to point out, till faily recently, some states had laws saying 13/14 was the age of consent, many in recent years have upped that in an attempt to stop the explosion in teen pregnancy, this is especially true in red states where they teach abstinence only sex ed....you know, "dont have sex"....teens dont learn to use condoms so...they dont use them...then girls get knocked up and its the boys fault....
Rikuo: in cases like this, the whole situation needs taken into account.
its quite likely the reason they dealt with it as they did years ago was that it would cause the girl more mental harm if they threw the book at him then if they cut him a break.
Also part of the system is punishment, he lost his home, family, carrier(and justly so), he is now branded a sex offender FOR LIFE, meaning hes gonna have trouble finding meaningful work, he had to do treatment(and im sure pay for it out of what little he was likely able to make as a sex offender)
hes a marked man, anybody who googles his name will find hes a sex offender, and most will assume violent rapist or child molester, He did not get off scott free...
and he will pay for his stupidity the rest of his life.
he failed to complete at the first location, he completed at another from what i have read,thats part of why the sentience was so light.
again, I think we can agree, this was creepy, and he needed smacked around for it, may even have needed the treatment, but it wasnt rape as people invision it.
again, never said I agreed with it, infact this case is quite creepy, but its not rape.
he did treatment, completed it, hes not considered a threat by treatment providers or the court, the girl did not want him persecuted, it likely caused her mental distress that he was...
IMHO the fact that most of the world finds our laws insane should give us a clue that there may be a problem.
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if you read the actual story and back story, and I find calling statutory rape, rape very inflamitory, as it implies that he threw her down/beat her up/threatened her into sex.....thats not the case.
this case is creepy and wrong but again, not rape....
and again read the full story, he did treatment, completed it (was kicked out of one program for minor violation of their rules and completed it via another provider) what hes being jailed for is not rape/statutor rape but for being kicked out of one program despite getting into another and completing it.
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many adults never learn from experience, we all know people like this, even if we dont want to admit it, they can be good people but just really dumb in some ways.
like the kinda people who go out and drink to excess and then cry about horrible hangovers....they never seem to learn from it....others do learn from it and dont drink to excess...
yes the above example isnt directly related but, its a common thing that we all see.....to this day, i see people I knew in highschool decades ago who STILL go out and get drunk as hell then cry about hangovers...
they do not learn from experience.....where I have also seen kids who watched what others did and learned from it so they didnt make those mistakes themselves.
you cant judge maturity or wisdom only on age...again some people can age without ever maturing or gaining any wisdom along the way.
perhaps we need a set of tests somebody has to pass to be allowed to have sex, if you never pass you never get the right to have sex legally, anybody who has sex with you and yourself get in legal trouble if they do.....
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many times it dosnt even remove the court records (despite that being why you pay to have it done)
and 13/14/15yo girls who sent pix of their tits to guys have been made life long sex offenders(as have some of the guys who got the images), no way to get off the list.
theres no such thing as a way to clear your record once your accused of something, much like the internet, anything that happens is there forever.
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you need to edit this, clearly spain and some other EU countries are listed incorrectly since they are clearly 3rd world by your standards.
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interesting.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_World
guess you need to edit that to reflect the fact that spain and a swath of europe is 3rd world.
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and yes the image is fucking lulzy as hell......im still snickering.....
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as is this case, but, this case(the story) still isnt rape....or molestation.
hope they throw the book at the sick fuck you linked though....
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next, if it causes the 14yo more mental harm then cutting the guy a deal then I feel it would be wrong to persecute him and cause her that harm.
if you read the actual story behind this faux newsish blerb tim wrote, you will find he is being tossed in for 30 dys for failing to complete treatment and being kicked out of one program for minor rules violations.
on the other hand, he finished treatment at another location , hence the light 30 day in jail sentence.
and no, i dont condone his actions, its creepy and wrong, but its not rape, again read the case info, its quite likely they gave him the deal they did to spare the girl any more mental harm then had already happened.
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its not molestation because shes to old to call it that(legally)
I never said this was OK, I just dont view it as the societal image given to rape.
its quite likely the fallout of the relationship coming to light did her more mental harm then the relationship itself.
again, I DO NOT CONDONE THE RELAIONSHIP, its creepy and wrong....he should have been and was punished for it.(read the full story rather then tim's faux news/msnbs version of the story)
we need a new term for this kind of thing, the mental image society attaches to rape is not what happened here...
my state uses "Communicating with a minor for immoral purposes" after they removed statutory rape laws, these are more flexable and allow for some judgement and a defense (say she had a fake ID that looked legit and you met her at 3am at some bar..)
statutory rape laws have no flexibility they dont take anything into acct but age, not the welfare of the "victim" or anything, thats likely why they suspended persecution and made a deal.
once again, i have never said I support this or agree with it, its wrong and creepy, but its not rape.
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more of the world disagrees with them with reguards to this girls ability to concent then agrees...
oh yeah, spain must be full of pedos and pervs, the AoC there is 13.......(yeah thats a bit to young but....its the law there, and their society accepts it and looks at ours like we are insane...so....)
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reads like it was written by faux news or msnbc....
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Oh and i never said i agreed with it, I just find it odd how our country is one of the few with laws like this and such high age of concent.
i prefer women closer to my own age honestly, they tend to be more stable then young ladies.(mentally that is)
I just dont feel it should be called rape.
another thing to point out, till faily recently, some states had laws saying 13/14 was the age of consent, many in recent years have upped that in an attempt to stop the explosion in teen pregnancy, this is especially true in red states where they teach abstinence only sex ed....you know, "dont have sex"....teens dont learn to use condoms so...they dont use them...then girls get knocked up and its the boys fault....
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its quite likely the reason they dealt with it as they did years ago was that it would cause the girl more mental harm if they threw the book at him then if they cut him a break.
Also part of the system is punishment, he lost his home, family, carrier(and justly so), he is now branded a sex offender FOR LIFE, meaning hes gonna have trouble finding meaningful work, he had to do treatment(and im sure pay for it out of what little he was likely able to make as a sex offender)
hes a marked man, anybody who googles his name will find hes a sex offender, and most will assume violent rapist or child molester, He did not get off scott free...
and he will pay for his stupidity the rest of his life.
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again, I think we can agree, this was creepy, and he needed smacked around for it, may even have needed the treatment, but it wasnt rape as people invision it.
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he did treatment, completed it, hes not considered a threat by treatment providers or the court, the girl did not want him persecuted, it likely caused her mental distress that he was...
IMHO the fact that most of the world finds our laws insane should give us a clue that there may be a problem.
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this case is creepy and wrong but again, not rape....
and again read the full story, he did treatment, completed it (was kicked out of one program for minor violation of their rules and completed it via another provider) what hes being jailed for is not rape/statutor rape but for being kicked out of one program despite getting into another and completing it.
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like the kinda people who go out and drink to excess and then cry about horrible hangovers....they never seem to learn from it....others do learn from it and dont drink to excess...
yes the above example isnt directly related but, its a common thing that we all see.....to this day, i see people I knew in highschool decades ago who STILL go out and get drunk as hell then cry about hangovers...
they do not learn from experience.....where I have also seen kids who watched what others did and learned from it so they didnt make those mistakes themselves.
you cant judge maturity or wisdom only on age...again some people can age without ever maturing or gaining any wisdom along the way.
perhaps we need a set of tests somebody has to pass to be allowed to have sex, if you never pass you never get the right to have sex legally, anybody who has sex with you and yourself get in legal trouble if they do.....
would you be ok with that?
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