I'm assuming that the judge considered the accuser's claim and deemed the circumstances proper to order a seizure prior to a hearing in order to preserve the accuser's rights.
How can you assume that when there is irrefutable evidence that he did not? When the judge was presented with all the facts, the ruling went in the complete opposite direction. You're being willfully blind.
If someone is charged with a crime, then there has been some level of scrutiny gone over the evidence, and multiple parties (for example, the police and district attorneys) agree that the evidence is sufficient to arrest and hold him.
On the other hand, accusing someone of a crime requires no evidence (and under SOPA, it doesn't even require someone swearing under penalty of perjury). I could call up the police and say "There's this guy Willton commenting on Techdirt and he deals drugs. Arrest him, seize all his property, then throw him in jail until he gets a trial. And after the trial, if he's innocent, he can have his stuff back." Sound fair to you?
Oh give me a break. Selling ads is not free speech worthy of 1st Amendment protection.
Not according to the Supreme Court. They ruled in effect that money equals speech in regards to paid advertisements during political campaigns.
ICE is acting at the behest of a court order, which was issued to preserve the rights of an aggrieved property holder. If the defendant has a problem with that, it should take it up with the complainant.
Since we're referring to ICE's domain seizures here, the court order was ex parte. Also, it took months of effort for Rojadirecta to even find anyone they could complain to about the domain seizure.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 5 Dec 2011 @ 10:33am
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Lets ban the Iliad because they slaughter animals too.
Wow. If you think slaughtering animals is the worst thing in the Iliad, I suggest you read the non-Disneyfied version. Frankly, the level of barbarity in the poem outstrips just about any modern video game, movie, or book you could name. But I guess the same could be said for most of the bronze age myths as well.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 2 Dec 2011 @ 6:39am
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there are a lot of people in this digital age who are selfish beyond belief.
I'll take your made up statistic of 50% of selfish people in the digital age and contrast it to the 99% of recording label executives who are selfish beyond belief, use shady accounting to cheat the artists, then publicly lie that manipulating and corrupting our political system is all for the artists.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 30 Nov 2011 @ 2:03pm
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TPB isn't listed on the first page results. Know what the top spot is for? A paid ad link to... Netflix, a 100% legal, paid service.
TPB barely makes it into the 2nd page at #20. Know what comes up well before it at #13? publicdomainflicks.com - which, guess what? - has public domain movies.
Most of the other links in the first 2 pages have variations on free/movie/downloads in their addresses. I'm sure many are fine, but I avoid clicking on these type links out of habit since you rarely know in advance which might be sites trying to turn my system into a zombie.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 29 Nov 2011 @ 2:36pm
Re: Re: Re: "Hyster"
While I'm aware of the origin of the word (SAT root words FTW), I'm with Mike on this. I have never heard any modern usage of the word that was specifically gender based.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 22 Nov 2011 @ 4:52pm
Re: Why it's right!
So what do we do about the ISOHunts? What do we do about the USENET sites? What do we do about the Torrent sites? They're making money selling access to content and they're sharing NOTHING with the people who do the real work. If not now, when? If not the SOPA or PROTECT-IP, what?
It is utterly simple. Out compete them. The content companies could have a tremendous advantage and nearly put torrent sites out of business in a few days if they were willing to pull their heads out of their asses and compete.
You want to get me to stop torrenting my favorite TV shows each week? Let me download them in a good quality format the moment they start airing and charge a reasonable price straight from the network's home page. You put it up, I'll get my credit card.
You want to get me to stop torrenting a movie that's still in the theaters? Let me download it in a good quality format on release night for a reasonable price.
Music? Well, I don't really torrent music very much anymore since I started using Pandora, but I'll stop altogether if I can (again) get a good quality mp3 or flac download of a band's entire catalog (and please decide on a standard format for file names and all the meta data tags) for a reasonable price ($1 per song is 10-20 times too expensive).
There is no technical or economic reason why what I've mentioned is either unreasonable or unfeasible. So, get on it, and I'll get my credit card.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 21 Nov 2011 @ 8:02pm
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All of the piracy apologists will oppose any measure that will impede infringing.
When the entire idea behind the law is wrong, and provably wrong, opposition is the only rational choice.
I've given my suggestions many times on how to fix copyright law. I've admitted that my view is not mainstream, but where I can compromise to find common ground.
For instance, I start at zero year for copyright length, and you start at 100 years. I offer a compromise to 5 years. If your next offer would be 120 years, plus shutting down competing distribution methods and throwing people behind them in jail - then you're not compromising.
Start rolling the completely unsupportable position back, and we can find options.
Second, that's obvious. You check to see if the person is breaking any laws in Belize. If they have broken a law there, take it up with the authorities there. If they are not breaking a law there, then again, it is obvious that you need to adjust your distribution model to account for the competition from another country.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 21 Nov 2011 @ 7:28pm
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The only thing from that post that is close:
"I want to argue that unauthorized publication amounts to forcing another to speak. Unauthorized publication is wrongful because it is compelled speech."
When it comes to a p2p site, this doesn't apply. You've already put your speech out in (at least) one form. You wrote a book, recorded a video or music. Someone else is repeating something you have already said. And that is not "compelled speech."
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 21 Nov 2011 @ 6:37pm
Re: Re: Re: SOPA
Loopholes in the DMCA are being used to protect tens of thousands of acts of copyright infringement every day.
It's not a loophole to properly apply liability to the correct party.
On the other hand, it has been used to censor legal and legitimate speech. There are hundreds and thousands of documented examples. It has been used to jail legitimate software developers (remember Dmitry Sklyarov?).
If you want to ignore the mountains of evidence, that's your choice, just don't expect anyone else to accept your bullshit.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 21 Nov 2011 @ 6:22pm
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the problem with PIPA is that it punishes those engaged in trafficking illegal goods.
Too bad for your argument that trafficking in illegal goods is already against the law and there are quite hefty punishments for it.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/2320.html
US Code, Title 18, Section 2320:
(1) In general.— Whoever; [1] intentionally traffics or attempts to traffic in goods or services and knowingly uses a counterfeit mark on or in connection with such goods or services, or intentionally traffics or attempts to traffic in labels, patches, stickers, wrappers, badges, emblems, medallions, charms, boxes, containers, cans, cases, hangtags, documentation, or packaging of any type or nature, knowing that a counterfeit mark has been applied thereto, the use of which is likely to cause confusion, to cause mistake, or to deceive, shall, if an individual, be fined not more than $2,000,000 or imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both, and, if a person other than an individual, be fined not more than $5,000,000.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 21 Nov 2011 @ 6:18pm
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Copyright is probably the single most important tool available to the individual for defending the meaning of what one says.
That is bullshit.
Social mores and direct evidence of what someone says protect against that. In other words, the way to combat false speech is with more speech (and evidence).
I will concede your point IF you can give some kind of rational explanation in why shutting down a peer2peer site has even the slightest link to protecting the "integrity" of something you said/wrote.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Justice Delayed = Justice Denied
How can you assume that when there is irrefutable evidence that he did not? When the judge was presented with all the facts, the ruling went in the complete opposite direction. You're being willfully blind.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Justice Delayed = Justice Denied
It matters a great deal.
If someone is charged with a crime, then there has been some level of scrutiny gone over the evidence, and multiple parties (for example, the police and district attorneys) agree that the evidence is sufficient to arrest and hold him.
On the other hand, accusing someone of a crime requires no evidence (and under SOPA, it doesn't even require someone swearing under penalty of perjury). I could call up the police and say "There's this guy Willton commenting on Techdirt and he deals drugs. Arrest him, seize all his property, then throw him in jail until he gets a trial. And after the trial, if he's innocent, he can have his stuff back." Sound fair to you?
Oh give me a break. Selling ads is not free speech worthy of 1st Amendment protection.
Not according to the Supreme Court. They ruled in effect that money equals speech in regards to paid advertisements during political campaigns.
ICE is acting at the behest of a court order, which was issued to preserve the rights of an aggrieved property holder. If the defendant has a problem with that, it should take it up with the complainant.
Since we're referring to ICE's domain seizures here, the court order was ex parte. Also, it took months of effort for Rojadirecta to even find anyone they could complain to about the domain seizure.
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Re: Re:
Wow. If you think slaughtering animals is the worst thing in the Iliad, I suggest you read the non-Disneyfied version. Frankly, the level of barbarity in the poem outstrips just about any modern video game, movie, or book you could name. But I guess the same could be said for most of the bronze age myths as well.
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I'll take your made up statistic of 50% of selfish people in the digital age and contrast it to the 99% of recording label executives who are selfish beyond belief, use shady accounting to cheat the artists, then publicly lie that manipulating and corrupting our political system is all for the artists.
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Re: Re: Sigh
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TPB barely makes it into the 2nd page at #20. Know what comes up well before it at #13? publicdomainflicks.com - which, guess what? - has public domain movies.
Most of the other links in the first 2 pages have variations on free/movie/downloads in their addresses. I'm sure many are fine, but I avoid clicking on these type links out of habit since you rarely know in advance which might be sites trying to turn my system into a zombie.
You have any other stupid questions?
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Re: Re: Re: "Hyster"
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Or, they could hire more people and do both. And make even more money. But that's just crazy talk, right?
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Re: Re: Re: Why it's right!
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Re: Why it's right!
It is utterly simple. Out compete them. The content companies could have a tremendous advantage and nearly put torrent sites out of business in a few days if they were willing to pull their heads out of their asses and compete.
You want to get me to stop torrenting my favorite TV shows each week? Let me download them in a good quality format the moment they start airing and charge a reasonable price straight from the network's home page. You put it up, I'll get my credit card.
You want to get me to stop torrenting a movie that's still in the theaters? Let me download it in a good quality format on release night for a reasonable price.
Music? Well, I don't really torrent music very much anymore since I started using Pandora, but I'll stop altogether if I can (again) get a good quality mp3 or flac download of a band's entire catalog (and please decide on a standard format for file names and all the meta data tags) for a reasonable price ($1 per song is 10-20 times too expensive).
There is no technical or economic reason why what I've mentioned is either unreasonable or unfeasible. So, get on it, and I'll get my credit card.
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Worst?
Though I guess it could be worse. They could give away the movie Ultraviolet along with the DRM of the same name.
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So you're admitting that even a 5 year copyright term is too long to make any difference in the bottom line for content companies?
Thank you.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
When the entire idea behind the law is wrong, and provably wrong, opposition is the only rational choice.
I've given my suggestions many times on how to fix copyright law. I've admitted that my view is not mainstream, but where I can compromise to find common ground.
For instance, I start at zero year for copyright length, and you start at 100 years. I offer a compromise to 5 years. If your next offer would be 120 years, plus shutting down competing distribution methods and throwing people behind them in jail - then you're not compromising.
Start rolling the completely unsupportable position back, and we can find options.
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Re: Re: Re: Re:
First, if you're talking about the small country in Central America, its Belize. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belize
Second, that's obvious. You check to see if the person is breaking any laws in Belize. If they have broken a law there, take it up with the authorities there. If they are not breaking a law there, then again, it is obvious that you need to adjust your distribution model to account for the competition from another country.
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"I want to argue that unauthorized publication amounts to forcing another to speak. Unauthorized publication is wrongful because it is compelled speech."
When it comes to a p2p site, this doesn't apply. You've already put your speech out in (at least) one form. You wrote a book, recorded a video or music. Someone else is repeating something you have already said. And that is not "compelled speech."
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Re: Re: Re: SOPA
It's not a loophole to properly apply liability to the correct party.
On the other hand, it has been used to censor legal and legitimate speech. There are hundreds and thousands of documented examples. It has been used to jail legitimate software developers (remember Dmitry Sklyarov?).
If you want to ignore the mountains of evidence, that's your choice, just don't expect anyone else to accept your bullshit.
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Re: Re:
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Too bad for your argument that trafficking in illegal goods is already against the law and there are quite hefty punishments for it.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/2320.html
US Code, Title 18, Section 2320:
(1) In general.— Whoever; [1] intentionally traffics or attempts to traffic in goods or services and knowingly uses a counterfeit mark on or in connection with such goods or services, or intentionally traffics or attempts to traffic in labels, patches, stickers, wrappers, badges, emblems, medallions, charms, boxes, containers, cans, cases, hangtags, documentation, or packaging of any type or nature, knowing that a counterfeit mark has been applied thereto, the use of which is likely to cause confusion, to cause mistake, or to deceive, shall, if an individual, be fined not more than $2,000,000 or imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both, and, if a person other than an individual, be fined not more than $5,000,000.
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Re: Re: Re:
That is bullshit.
Social mores and direct evidence of what someone says protect against that. In other words, the way to combat false speech is with more speech (and evidence).
I will concede your point IF you can give some kind of rational explanation in why shutting down a peer2peer site has even the slightest link to protecting the "integrity" of something you said/wrote.
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