I really do not like the concept of E-voting at all.
Paper ballots and their "hanging chads" while time consuming to count and not at all perfect,
are still physically tangible.
And it does not take an advanced degree in micro-processor technologies to re-count the votes if there is a challenge by the losing side in a close race.
If the Florida votes in dispute during the 2000 Bush-Gore Presidential race had been Internet-Cast-Votes, history may have been different, our democracy could have ruptured.
Maybe not, but I would not choose to risk it.
To have the core of the American democratic process become an activity of cyber-space is something I find spooky.
Hackers have proven to be some of the most talented minds of our time and there has yet to be a cyber-system that has been made impregnable to attack.
When it comes to voting for President or anything else, I would rather take my chances with the
hanging
chads.
Primitive , yes ; slow yes.
But it is a truer to recount.
The less that can go wrong , the less that will go wrong ~~~
Re: The clause I quoted is the "why". The clause you're talking about is the "how." I'm not ignoring it. I'm posting the *relevant* portion when discussing the "why."
no answer here ,, huh , Mike.
half quotes and half answers,, that is your Pirate Logic
Question, TP: do you think it's illegal or unfair for a car company to buy an ad in a newspaper next to the classified listings for car dealers?
"Question, TP: do you think it's illegal or unfair for a car company to buy an ad in a newspaper next to the classified listings for car dealers?."
Ask a lawyer who deals with it, MM.
Ask a sitting judge , also. Get back to me.
I follow the lead of my teachers, mentors , spiritual masters.
I do not invent to arguments , i post here.
They are strait out of any Political theory class and/or textbook
But, on your question-- which is irrelevant to copy law ---- my educated guess it is the newspaper's call, and the law is neutral on the point.
But I may be wrong , as I am only answering of the top of my head w/o research. If you have any sources on a good discourse on the topic , i will gladly read it carefully. Then ask some law professors and/or sitting judges, that I know personally, and get back to you.
I do not own a newspaper , so , if the law is neutral , i would not know , how i would view it ethically, without dealing daily with the issue.
But I fail to see what you question has to do with my right to control my Art. A right you deny exists. That is where you are wrong. and it is the root & core of or "debate".
You never answers , mt springsteen vs Gohn McCain question.
Do you mike , think Bruce had the , "legal" ? , "moral" , and/ or "natural" RIGHT to tell McCain NOT to use his songs and music?
That fact is McCain stopped using "the Boss's " song. He did not deny Bruce's right to control his ART. Do you Mike ?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fair Use?// but I find it unlikely that a judge would recognize the key points that you make.
I am sorry if you miss my logic,, but the logic of my mind has been "academically tested" , and "rabbinically tested" repeatably for 40 years now till today. ( As I mentioned I am an orthodox Rabbi.)
I get good grades still in "secular studies" or "religious law studies" ,, mostly "A"s.
Sorry if you do not understand it,
Mr. Spock had the same problem with many space aliens, they could not understand his logic either .
So, in approaching an issue like intellectual property, my argument is that if you can create a solution in which the economics allow a greatly increased opportunity for everyone, then you preempt the moral question
MIKE :"So, in approaching an issue like intellectual property, my argument is that if you can create a solution in which the economics allow a greatly increased opportunity for everyone, then you preempt the moral question"
ME : Major Falicy here Mike , debunked by history.
Government Economic plans can NEVER "preempt the moral question". It is the core of Democratic Political theory.
That is why IP in in the Constitution . That wht it will never be removed.
Let me guess Mike , your Masters thesis was:
"FOR approaching an issue like SLAVERY , my argument is that if you can create a solution in which the economics allow a greatly increased opportunity for everyone, then you preempt the moral question of Slavery."
This was the argument FOR slavery.
Morals Won.
Please Mike , testify before the Congressional Commerce Committees on IP, with your economics "preempt the moral question",, see how far you get.
---------------------------------
Again Mike,, the Constitution protects Artists from that argument of IP preempting "the moral question" , and Constitution protects Artists from YOU Mike !!!!
Re: Re: Re: Public Citizen and the ACLU in one of US Copyright Group's mass copyright infringement lawsuits, one of the points that they raised was that these mass filing strategies always snare a significant number of innocent users -- many of whom still
again. pointless posts. no wonder why school teachers will never recommend this site for homework ,
There is no comment moderation , and w/o it , you got to cut through too much crap , to have a meaningful exchange.
Want to help , public policy ? fix Patent? . Adjust copyright lawsuit procedures?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Fair Use?// but I find it unlikely that a judge would recognize the key points that you make.
and you folks wonder why techdirt is not considered a mainstream website ?? those 3 comment right there.
Me , i like a good cyber-fight. i will not back down , and will beat you with facts and logic,,though like Karl, you will never admit, even if you see it.
Can i get you more rope to hang your self ?
As far as, my qualifications, on law , and public policy, click on my profile ,, my resume is a few clicks away in my blogger profile.
all you AC's and folks with empty profiles , have empty heads.
the "real posters" here, are not afraid to provide links to who they are ,, or simply use their real name , so we can google them.
Yes there are a few ACs who add to the debate. they probably are techdirt admin staffers, who know Mike would fire them , if they post under their real name!!
And, more importantly, when you look at those who have figured out how to embrace file sharing, and note that they are almost all better of
As long as it is legal file sharing ,, you are right.
You got to remember ,, a lot of Artist and Writers , know & care nothing about copyright. their problem.
But most Artists do -- by far. It is how we eat.
It is a big world, and you can find "any sub-group" to support "any crazy point" you make here Mike on copyrights.
"Good Public Policy" is about the "greater good" , based on "immutable principles".
Problem is politicians write laws.
but
1] "We the people" vote ,
and ,
2} the courts keep congress in check.
====================================
Run for office Mike on anti-copyright platform.
See how you do.
Public Citizen and the ACLU in one of US Copyright Group's mass copyright infringement lawsuits, one of the points that they raised was that these mass filing strategies always snare a significant number of innocent users -- many of whom still feel the ne
Stop blaming "bad action by lawyers" ON "bad copyright law".
The lawsuit "situation" can be fixed w/o touching Copyright law.
BUT we have "lawyers lobbying" against "other lawyers", on court procedure , AND congress , being mostly lawyers often makes it all worse.
--------------------
The Constitution protects us from a crazy Congress too !!
---------------
But Copy-Rights is cool . Everyone in Government agrees.
---------------------
( but patent is sick , most agree, me too.)
Why can you not understand that ?
Again Mike ,, you ignore is good points and solid stuff ,,
and nitpick one small point, that is not an answer to the thrust of his post.
But we keep coming ,, because with all the submissions you get ,, techdirt , cool , for reviewing what is out there , that i might miss w/o coming here.
Intelligent people do NOT come here to read you MIKE,, you are a pure techno- Rush Limbaugh.
Like i said before, try to be more Bill Moyers ,, you will make more $$$ .
If techdirt was a super popular site (I still dont know why its not),
1] because , Mike is a sloppy thinking writer.
I came here for years , to read the stores submitted by readers,, not so much Mike -- though on electronic voting , and paywall ,, he scores once in a while.
2] because the threads , are mostly shallow "pirate logic" post. Full of naughty words. Parents do not want that on their home computer. Many employers do not either.
3} if Mike , hired a comment moderator -- just for bad words -- techdirt's traffic , would go up some.
4] I f might hired a comment moderator , to fact-check posts,--- the traffic , would sky rocket, as some good things do happen here , and good points are raised all around. That's why I come . I do learn a bit here.
5] Mike is too much of an ego-maniac to take these suggestions
On the post: Red Flags Suggest Potential E-Voting Issues In Bizarre South Carolina Election
Paper ballots and their "hanging chads" while time consuming to count and not at all perfect,
are still physically tangible.
And it does not take an advanced degree in micro-processor technologies to re-count the votes if there is a challenge by the losing side in a close race.
If the Florida votes in dispute during the 2000 Bush-Gore Presidential race had been Internet-Cast-Votes, history may have been different, our democracy could have ruptured.
Maybe not, but I would not choose to risk it.
To have the core of the American democratic process become an activity of cyber-space is something I find spooky.
Hackers have proven to be some of the most talented minds of our time and there has yet to be a cyber-system that has been made impregnable to attack.
When it comes to voting for President or anything else, I would rather take my chances with the
hanging
chads.
Primitive , yes ; slow yes.
But it is a truer to recount.
The less that can go wrong , the less that will go wrong ~~~
On the post: People Pay For Access, Not Content... But Most People Don't Understand The Difference
Re: "People pay for their broadband connections. That's access"
On the post: Top Public School Signs Multi-Million Dollar Deal To Copyright & Sell Its Curriculum
Re: The clause I quoted is the "why". The clause you're talking about is the "how." I'm not ignoring it. I'm posting the *relevant* portion when discussing the "why."
half quotes and half answers,, that is your Pirate Logic
On the post: Canadian Court Notes That Keyword Advertising On Competitor's Trademarks Is Not Deceptive
You never answers , mt springsteen vs Gohn McCain question.
corrected.
I got distracted by life stuff. and hit submit too soon.
On the post: Canadian Court Notes That Keyword Advertising On Competitor's Trademarks Is Not Deceptive
Question, TP: do you think it's illegal or unfair for a car company to buy an ad in a newspaper next to the classified listings for car dealers?
Ask a lawyer who deals with it, MM.
Ask a sitting judge , also. Get back to me.
I follow the lead of my teachers, mentors , spiritual masters.
I do not invent to arguments , i post here.
They are strait out of any Political theory class and/or textbook
But, on your question-- which is irrelevant to copy law ---- my educated guess it is the newspaper's call, and the law is neutral on the point.
But I may be wrong , as I am only answering of the top of my head w/o research. If you have any sources on a good discourse on the topic , i will gladly read it carefully. Then ask some law professors and/or sitting judges, that I know personally, and get back to you.
I do not own a newspaper , so , if the law is neutral , i would not know , how i would view it ethically, without dealing daily with the issue.
But I fail to see what you question has to do with my right to control my Art. A right you deny exists. That is where you are wrong. and it is the root & core of or "debate".
You never answers , mt springsteen vs Gohn McCain question.
Do you mike , think Bruce had the , "legal" ? , "moral" , and/ or "natural" RIGHT to tell McCain NOT to use his songs and music?
That fact is McCain stopped using "the Boss's " song. He did not deny Bruce's right to control his ART. Do you Mike ?
Interview Bruce , too if you can .
I bet he would love to talk about it with you.
That is what we are "debating". Not newspaer ads
On the post: Canadian Court Notes That Keyword Advertising On Competitor's Trademarks Is Not Deceptive
Re: Re: Re: Re: Trademarks/// The point of trademark was never about giving full property rights to the holder.
the writer is not on SCOTUS.
Get a member of SCOTUS to tell me DIRECTLY I am wrong and then we will see.
truly Pirate-pretzel logic, here Mike.
Copyright is in the Constitution to stay. There is no serious movement AT ALL to remove it.
On the post: The Rise And Fall Of The RIAA
Re: Re: And, more importantly, when you look at those who have figured out how to embrace file sharing, and note that they are almost all better of
If they have a bad biz model despite that , they should hire better management.
I wish Brain Epstein was here.
On the post: Didn't Take Long: Lots Of People Getting Sued By US Copyright Group Claim Innocence
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fair Use?// but I find it unlikely that a judge would recognize the key points that you make.
I get good grades still in "secular studies" or "religious law studies" ,, mostly "A"s.
Sorry if you do not understand it,
Mr. Spock had the same problem with many space aliens, they could not understand his logic either .
On the post: Didn't Take Long: Lots Of People Getting Sued By US Copyright Group Claim Innocence
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Public Citizen and the ACLU in one of US Copyright Group's mass l
Do you dispute that FACT?
Welcome to reality Mike.
--------------------------------------------
And Grade school teachers , and even High School teachers , could get fired if they recommended a site with foul language for a homework assignment.
------------------------------------
Enjoy being in the trash bin of history, Mike , as time will prove.
On the post: Is Intellectual Property Itself Unethical?
So, in approaching an issue like intellectual property, my argument is that if you can create a solution in which the economics allow a greatly increased opportunity for everyone, then you preempt the moral question
ME : Major Falicy here Mike , debunked by history.
Government Economic plans can NEVER "preempt the moral question". It is the core of Democratic Political theory.
That is why IP in in the Constitution . That wht it will never be removed.
Let me guess Mike , your Masters thesis was:
"FOR approaching an issue like SLAVERY , my argument is that if you can create a solution in which the economics allow a greatly increased opportunity for everyone, then you preempt the moral question of Slavery."
This was the argument FOR slavery.
Morals Won.
Please Mike , testify before the Congressional Commerce Committees on IP, with your economics "preempt the moral question",, see how far you get.
---------------------------------
Again Mike,, the Constitution protects Artists from that argument of IP preempting "the moral question" , and Constitution protects Artists from YOU Mike !!!!
Get used to it
On the post: Didn't Take Long: Lots Of People Getting Sued By US Copyright Group Claim Innocence
Re: Re: Re: Public Citizen and the ACLU in one of US Copyright Group's mass copyright infringement lawsuits, one of the points that they raised was that these mass filing strategies always snare a significant number of innocent users -- many of whom still
There is no comment moderation , and w/o it , you got to cut through too much crap , to have a meaningful exchange.
Want to help , public policy ? fix Patent? . Adjust copyright lawsuit procedures?
Post intelligently and respectfully.
And maybe you Mike ,
if you ever agree with me ,, post such.
It would help your creditability.
On the post: Didn't Take Long: Lots Of People Getting Sued By US Copyright Group Claim Innocence
Re: Re: Re: Re: Fair Use?// but I find it unlikely that a judge would recognize the key points that you make.
Me , i like a good cyber-fight. i will not back down , and will beat you with facts and logic,,though like Karl, you will never admit, even if you see it.
Can i get you more rope to hang your self ?
As far as, my qualifications, on law , and public policy, click on my profile ,, my resume is a few clicks away in my blogger profile.
all you AC's and folks with empty profiles , have empty heads.
the "real posters" here, are not afraid to provide links to who they are ,, or simply use their real name , so we can google them.
Yes there are a few ACs who add to the debate. they probably are techdirt admin staffers, who know Mike would fire them , if they post under their real name!!
On the post: The Rise And Fall Of The RIAA
And, more importantly, when you look at those who have figured out how to embrace file sharing, and note that they are almost all better of
You got to remember ,, a lot of Artist and Writers , know & care nothing about copyright. their problem.
But most Artists do -- by far. It is how we eat.
It is a big world, and you can find "any sub-group" to support "any crazy point" you make here Mike on copyrights.
"Good Public Policy" is about the "greater good" , based on "immutable principles".
Problem is politicians write laws.
but
1] "We the people" vote ,
and ,
2} the courts keep congress in check.
====================================
Run for office Mike on anti-copyright platform.
See how you do.
Rand Paul would poll higher than you.
On the post: The Rise And Fall Of The RIAA
whole thread and post : So What?
The Music Market , will adjust , and copyright laws will help it adjust properly through new economic models that respect copy rights.
Is that so hard to understand. It is history repeating.
Radio killed newspapers. TV killed radio. Internet is killing TV.
Interesting thing is , We still buy some newspapers:: still the best thing for a subway ride.
Still do some radio:: traffic and weather on the "eights".
And with big braking news , TV is still king,, and will be for a while. ( though I watch CNN online only, I own no TV)
On the post: Didn't Take Long: Lots Of People Getting Sued By US Copyright Group Claim Innocence
Re: Re: Fair Use?// but I find it unlikely that a judge would recognize the key points that you make.
where did you get your law degree mike?
I don't see it post in any of your cyber-bios.
must be an oversight.
On the post: Didn't Take Long: Lots Of People Getting Sued By US Copyright Group Claim Innocence
Public Citizen and the ACLU in one of US Copyright Group's mass copyright infringement lawsuits, one of the points that they raised was that these mass filing strategies always snare a significant number of innocent users -- many of whom still feel the ne
The lawsuit "situation" can be fixed w/o touching Copyright law.
BUT we have "lawyers lobbying" against "other lawyers", on court procedure , AND congress , being mostly lawyers often makes it all worse.
--------------------
The Constitution protects us from a crazy Congress too !!
---------------
But Copy-Rights is cool . Everyone in Government agrees.
---------------------
( but patent is sick , most agree, me too.)
Why can you not understand that ?
On the post: People Pay For Access, Not Content... But Most People Don't Understand The Difference
Wrong, as per usual, Darryl:
and nitpick one small point, that is not an answer to the thrust of his post.
But we keep coming ,, because with all the submissions you get ,, techdirt , cool , for reviewing what is out there , that i might miss w/o coming here.
Intelligent people do NOT come here to read you MIKE,, you are a pure techno- Rush Limbaugh.
Like i said before, try to be more Bill Moyers ,, you will make more $$$ .
On the post: People Pay For Access, Not Content... But Most People Don't Understand The Difference
If techdirt was a super popular site (I still dont know why its not),
I came here for years , to read the stores submitted by readers,, not so much Mike -- though on electronic voting , and paywall ,, he scores once in a while.
2] because the threads , are mostly shallow "pirate logic" post. Full of naughty words. Parents do not want that on their home computer. Many employers do not either.
3} if Mike , hired a comment moderator -- just for bad words -- techdirt's traffic , would go up some.
4] I f might hired a comment moderator , to fact-check posts,--- the traffic , would sky rocket, as some good things do happen here , and good points are raised all around. That's why I come . I do learn a bit here.
5] Mike is too much of an ego-maniac to take these suggestions
On the post: Canadian Court Notes That Keyword Advertising On Competitor's Trademarks Is Not Deceptive
Re: Re: Trademarks/// The point of trademark was never about giving full property rights to the holder.
ME : WRONG. Interview any member of SCOTUS.
On the post: Canadian Court Notes That Keyword Advertising On Competitor's Trademarks Is Not Deceptive
Re: Re: You do realize that there have been tons of similar rulings around the globe, and none are considered "weak.
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