As a taxpayer who is not delinquent, this doesn't bother me if the municipality is making up the costs in collections. If they use collection agencies, courts, etc.. it's going to be more costly.
I admit to not liking the nanny/babysitter/fascist state much at all, but this to me is not a unacceptable use of ALPR technology. Probably more effective that the process of foreclosure, etc.
Now I will admit the caveat that the involved government agency use some kind of common sense way to collect once they've ID'd the person/car/location. Impounding a 1500$ car on a 300$ tax bill costing a working person a job that would have paid more in return to the economy is the issue. Never seen most governments do an intelligent job in this kind of situation, that worries me much more.
Let's see, authority has toys, boys w/toys want to use them. But doesn't it seem odd that the only likely result of deploying all you military toys is to intensify the violence?
Think it through, we have folks at a game store holding folks hostage w/shotguns. So we have maybe 2-3 "active shooters" .. so we deploy 20 or so officers in battle dress, 10-15 cars, trucks, vans all with sirens and flashing lights, news crews, crime scene management folks, and finally hostage negotiation (1 person?).
How can we honestly expect it get any less violent? Why not default to a bit more restrained response, 4-5 officers, no lights, no sirens, block off traffic. Couple of snipers mainly for backup?
I don't have a problem killing the bad guys - really I don't, until you consider how to ID them.
Take the normal domestic hostage situation of 1 perp and a a couple of innocent hostages. Dangerous for everyone in particular the officers. But if you have one convict with a gun and hostages, why do you need 30-40 officers, multiple SWAT teams with the coolest black "Call of Duty" arms and attitude, helicopters, etc. Let's see if we can inject some more little boy stupidity in the situation why don't we. More cops means more chance a cop get's killed and even greater chance an innocent gets caught in the cross fire.
Officers are supposed to know how to diffuse a situation, turn down the emotions, etc. This very act goes against everything they should have been taught. When has a military response ever been known to defuse a situation. True if kill all the baddies you might actually solve the issue, but that is not the most likely event by a long shot. This does not even consider the hostages in the equation. Basically this might be the least likely to be successful response so of course to government goes with it.
Cut cableTV two years ago. Went with comcast business account 50/10. Use dedicated entertainment PC hooked to 55" in LED, blu-ray, 7.1 sound...
Before we cut cable, tv was always on some cable garbage, pawn stars, parking wars, storage wars, some old movie for 20th time. Those basic fill garbage cable junk shows! -- cost of 190-200$ a month w/cable,net,phone from comcast Xfinity.
Cut cable, HD Antenna for local channels. No Netflix though(delays!), lots of use of network websites to view.
Guess What - haven't watched Pawn Stars in 2 years, no one will intentionally watch those garbage cable fillers.. amazing what they don't miss!! Bill is down to 100$ a month for the cable business account. I did keep phone due to the nature of my business. W/O phone would be under 80$ a month vs 190-200$ and I get better viewing experience, on my own time, less fill. I do have HuluPlus! but am thinking of cutting it. Even if it cost the same I wouldn't go back, the time shifting alone is worth it.
Amazing what Real Estate comparison sites can tell you...Now should there be more equal response and coverage yes, is there a double standard yes, are cops smarter in NH than MO, yes... are folks nicer in NH - maybe. Basically you gotta see that folks are scared of cops in Keene, Cops seem to react better in Keene, maybe that is the real problem here, no one died in Keene -- it's only interesting when people die.
As to stats - cops really have a reason to not overreact in Keene -- Cops in MO don't really seem to need a reason to overreact.
Stats....
1. 3 murders in Keene in last 10 years... 2. 20 murders in last 10 years in Ferguson 3. White Frat boys might burn some stuff, might even rape someone but they don't shoot folks in Keene. 4. Frat boys can pay for the damage in court 5. 1 in 355 chance of being a crime victim in Keene 6. 1 in 222 chance of being a crime victim in Ferguson
You both are wrong and right ... you can block traffic within your airspace as long as you don't block other folks traffic nearby. Specifically from CISCO: ===================================================== As containment renders any standard 802.11 network completely ineffective, containment measures should taken in your airspace. Extreme caution should be taken to ensure that containment is not being performed on a legitimate network nearby and, action should only be taken as a last resort. Unauthorized containment is prosecutable by law (subject to the FCC’s Communications Act of 1934, Section 333, ‘Willful or Malicious Interference’). ===================================================
However PCI standards require you take this into account: -------------------------------------- PCI Compliance Understanding and remediating against wireless threats is also a requirement under the Payment Card Industry Data Security Standard (PCI DSS), a standard required for retailers to follow when processing credit card data over WLAN networks. Examples of WIPS requirements under PCI DSS include: Section 9.1.3 Physical Security: Restrict physical access to known wireless devices. Section 10.5.4 Wireless Logs: Archive wireless access centrally using a WIPS for 1 year. Section 11.1 Quarterly Wireless Scan: Scan all sites with card dataholder environments (CDE) whether or not they have known WLAN APs in the CDE. Sampling of sites is not allowed. A WIPS is recommended for large organizations since it is not possible to manually scan or conduct a walk-around wireless security audit of all sites on a quarterly basis Section 11.4 Monitor Alerts: Enable automatic WIPS alerts to instantly notify personnel of rogue devices and unauthorized wireless connections into the CDE. Section 12.9 Eliminate Threats: Prepare an incident response plan to monitor and respond to alerts from the WIPS. Enable automatic containment mechanism on WIPS to block rogues and unauthorized wireless connections. ------------------------------------------------
Custormers Still Screwed - didn't see anything about refunds!
So the FCC fined them 600K -- customers not seeing a dime of that in refunds for outrageous costs - am I right there.
This really doesn't suprise me though... if the service they did deliver was fast .. then 1000$ to hook up your own wireless so you could hand it out to attendees would be ok... but if it's for one client device, that is insane.
My firm has done numerous trade shows, normally we have to pay fee these days for decent internet connections (usually cable), 4-500$ for a week long show. It's all part of the space/booth fee.
Not long ago though we had to bring in our own connections - usually IDSN or if we were lucky DSL. Local telco would wire us up a circuit for the duration of the show.
Maybe I am Clueless - but how can the make then shut down the contest
Maybe I am clueless on how music works, but:
If the company is running the contest to put music in "THEIR" game, they ask folks to contribute - fully voluntary, they make it clear that the vendor and runner of the contest will put the music of the winner(s) into the game, there will be no royalties, how can someone force them kill the contest?
As long as they verify the contributors are not under contract that stops them from contributing to the contest, how can some entity force them not to run it. I must be missing something here, how can an industry group have standing to do anything at all?
Tough little sucker that killed a dino -- cops should be afraid
All I know is if the kid was tough enough to kill a dinosaur with just a gun bought locally by someone who couldn't buy a gun (we talking nerf guns here??) .... then the cops probably should be afraid. You know he was able to find and kill an extinct animal with a gun he couldn't buy ... that is what I call a DANGEROUS young man!
Not so sure this is that bad, bad cop yes, bad situation?
You know I've looked at this a few times and I see how the CHP wants to cover this up. But let's look at this particular situation. Think about this:
1. Cop has women walking out into obviously very very busy highway. 2. He's chasing her on foot risking his life trying to save hers. 3. He can see what happens if she causes an accident on highway - lots of other folks could get hurt/killed. 4. She ignores his commands causing him to have to physically restrain her. 5. Probably he doesn't relish the idea he has to run out into highway to save her, possibly getting killed himself. 6. He'd probably say good riddance (not good but realistic) and let her get hit, but someone else would probably get hurt and he would burn for that too. 7. She fights back when he's trying to grab her, he way over reacts(but in the moment I can see how he could, just needs to be a better cop)... 8. He loses it, takes out his frustration, is she trying to bit him, hit him, etc.. all on the side of the highway just begging to get killed by a car/truck that didn't see everything.
Does he need to be disciplined, "YES" - in this case does he need to vilified -- not so sure. A lot of extenuating circumstances here. It's not like it 8-10 cops beating a drunk passed out guy w/night sticks. he's one guy trying save a psycho, who's not being cooperative, all why trying dodge cars on a busy busy highway, hoping he survives and can go home to his family at the end of the shift. I don't see much of a win-win result for anyone in this case.
Of course as usual the press has a field day, everyone pontificates, CHP over reacts too trying save face, no one wins -- sorta like the original situation...
sorry if your serious - actually did own one, worked like was supposed to, sold it on ebay a few months back. Doesn't change the fact that the company is an idiot for how it handled the review.
I've used a media link router for the last couple of years.. worked flawlessly just like it was supposed to. Replaced it with a ASUS 'cause I needed to run Tomato Software. I was really suspicious of all the positive reviews - I use amazon reviews all the time to evaluate products. I spot a lot of obvious shill reviews, filter them out, look at negatives for repeating issues.
Company is stupid to call out a neg review when it's so overwhelmed by positives in the MediaLink case. But then if all the companies used their heads, they would all be driving gold plated benz's ... I swear the harbinger of the downfall of any civilization is the opening of the first law school!
Chairbot -- in the real world we call that a bar foot rail
Standing for long periods of time - you need to move your weight from one leg to another. The Bar Business developed the bar rail for just that reason. To keep folks comfortable at the bar so they would stay. Basically that is pretty much what the chairbot is. You can do the same thing with a couple of wood foot stools or boxes for a lot less than 2700$.
I am betting they have a rule against photography in the reading room so researchers don't photograph pages, etc... not meant for someone taking pic's of the room as a whole. Just a TWIT_NIT_WIT that is probably making min wage and thinks they are important, but doesn't understand the rule and why it's there, just reading his/her script like they were told to.
Thank god for those keepers of the gate preventing terrorism and book copying -- same thing right?
Ping of NetFlix.Com -- via VPN/Corporate Network vs Via Comcast Direct within 2 minutes of each other
[VPN]
7 59 ms 60 ms 60 ms 206.111.0.65.ptr.us.xo.net [206.111.0.65] 8 135 ms 125 ms 132 ms vb2000d2.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.13.66] 9 135 ms 141 ms 140 ms te-11-0-0.rar3.sanjose-ca.us.xo.net [207.88.12.69] 10 149 ms 136 ms 131 ms 207.88.14.226.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.226] 11 126 ms 132 ms 129 ms 216.156.84.6.ptr.us.xo.net [216.156.84.6] 12 142 ms 141 ms 138 ms xe-2-2-0-955.jnrt-edge02.prod1.netflix.com [69.53.225.30] 13 140 ms 136 ms 133 ms te1-8.csrt-agg02.prod1.netflix.com [69.53.225.10] 14 136 ms 138 ms 141 ms netflix.co.uk [69.53.236.17]
[DIRECT]
7 28 ms 30 ms 30 ms he-3-2-0-0-cr01.ashburn.va.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.90.177] 8 27 ms 28 ms 26 ms he-0-12-0-0-pe07.ashburn.va.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.83.82] 9 84 ms 32 ms 34 ms dcx2-edge-01.inet.qwest.net [65.120.84.65] 10 * * * Request timed out. 11 104 ms 102 ms 102 ms 63.145.225.58 12 102 ms 103 ms 101 ms te1-8.csrt-agg01.prod1.netflix.com [69.53.225.6] 13 102 ms 102 ms 102 ms netflixinc.com [69.53.236.17]
First 6 entries almost identical just local hops, but when it get's handed off to the backbone it gets interesting. Note the different destinations depending on the backbone when it get to the same IP address but different domains resolved based on the backbone it rode? Not all that surprising but also when I route local via comcast - look at hop 10 when it's handed off to Qwest (not surprising in my experience with Qwest networks).
The VPN definitely increases the latency across the board as expected. But the fact that netflix is resolving different FQDN's to the same IP from different aggregate ports in their network, a touch weird but then I don't work much with networks with that kind of capacity.
Ever wonder why they call it a CLOUD?? Fully opaque, easy to get lost, only god/buddha/allah know how it works and they aren't really sure. So as much as I hate big ISP's I never ascribe malice to what most likely is based in incompetence.
If we do that, how is the cop going to get to strip search and violate 2 women, shoot at a car full of kids, taser a 14 year old or kill a man who's trying to get help after he wrecked his car. They can't perform illegal searches, violate someones rights, racially profile them too. It will give them more time to patrol the schools and arrest 8 year olds for blowing spitwads from a straw or sexual harassment.
Sounds like a good plan to lessen the issues of folks getting abused by the armed police forces since they don't even have to talk to you to fine you.
On the post: Virginia Towns Using Federally-Funded License Plate Readers To Collect Local Taxes
Have to admit this doesn't bother me
I admit to not liking the nanny/babysitter/fascist state much at all, but this to me is not a unacceptable use of ALPR technology. Probably more effective that the process of foreclosure, etc.
Now I will admit the caveat that the involved government agency use some kind of common sense way to collect once they've ID'd the person/car/location. Impounding a 1500$ car on a 300$ tax bill costing a working person a job that would have paid more in return to the economy is the issue. Never seen most governments do an intelligent job in this kind of situation, that worries me much more.
On the post: Maybe The Best Way To Stop All This Swatting Is To Have Fewer SWAT Teams?
Stop Escalating Violence
Think it through, we have folks at a game store holding folks hostage w/shotguns. So we have maybe 2-3 "active shooters" .. so we deploy 20 or so officers in battle dress, 10-15 cars, trucks, vans all with sirens and flashing lights, news crews, crime scene management folks, and finally hostage negotiation (1 person?).
How can we honestly expect it get any less violent? Why not default to a bit more restrained response, 4-5 officers, no lights, no sirens, block off traffic. Couple of snipers mainly for backup?
I don't have a problem killing the bad guys - really I don't, until you consider how to ID them.
Take the normal domestic hostage situation of 1 perp and a a couple of innocent hostages. Dangerous for everyone in particular the officers. But if you have one convict with a gun and hostages, why do you need 30-40 officers, multiple SWAT teams with the coolest black "Call of Duty" arms and attitude, helicopters, etc. Let's see if we can inject some more little boy stupidity in the situation why don't we. More cops means more chance a cop get's killed and even greater chance an innocent gets caught in the cross fire.
Officers are supposed to know how to diffuse a situation, turn down the emotions, etc. This very act goes against everything they should have been taught. When has a military response ever been known to defuse a situation. True if kill all the baddies you might actually solve the issue, but that is not the most likely event by a long shot. This does not even consider the hostages in the equation. Basically this might be the least likely to be successful response so of course to government goes with it.
On the post: Cable Industry Fights New 25 Mbps Broadband Definition Because The Need For Those Speeds Is 'Hypothetical'
Even Yogi Berra new that meme
- Yogi Berra
On the post: After Calling Cord Cutting 'Purely Fiction' For Years, Nielsen Decides Just Maybe It Should Start Tracking Amazon, Netflix Viewing
Real Life Cord Cutter (well almost)
Before we cut cable, tv was always on some cable garbage, pawn stars, parking wars, storage wars, some old movie for 20th time. Those basic fill garbage cable junk shows! -- cost of 190-200$ a month w/cable,net,phone from comcast Xfinity.
Cut cable, HD Antenna for local channels. No Netflix though(delays!), lots of use of network websites to view.
Guess What - haven't watched Pawn Stars in 2 years, no one will intentionally watch those garbage cable fillers.. amazing what they don't miss!! Bill is down to 100$ a month for the cable business account. I did keep phone due to the nature of my business. W/O phone would be under 80$ a month vs 190-200$ and I get better viewing experience, on my own time, less fill. I do have HuluPlus! but am thinking of cutting it. Even if it cost the same I wouldn't go back, the time shifting alone is worth it.
On the post: A Tale of Two Riots: 'Hands Up, Don't Shoot' Vs. 'Bring Out The BearCat'
Double Std yes -- but there are reasons
As to stats - cops really have a reason to not overreact in Keene -- Cops in MO don't really seem to need a reason to overreact.
Stats....
1. 3 murders in Keene in last 10 years...
2. 20 murders in last 10 years in Ferguson
3. White Frat boys might burn some stuff, might even rape someone but they don't shoot folks in Keene.
4. Frat boys can pay for the damage in court
5. 1 in 355 chance of being a crime victim in Keene
6. 1 in 222 chance of being a crime victim in Ferguson
On the post: FCC Fines Marriott For Jamming Customers' WiFi Hotspots To Push Them Onto Hotel's $1,000 Per Device WiFi
Re: Re: Re:
=====================================================
As containment renders any standard 802.11 network completely ineffective, containment
measures should taken in your airspace. Extreme caution should be taken to ensure that
containment is not being performed on a legitimate network nearby and, action should only be
taken as a last resort. Unauthorized containment is prosecutable by law (subject to the FCC’s
Communications Act of 1934, Section 333, ‘Willful or Malicious Interference’).
===================================================
However PCI standards require you take this into account:
--------------------------------------
PCI Compliance
Understanding and remediating against wireless threats is also a requirement under the Payment
Card Industry Data Security Standard (PCI DSS), a standard required for retailers to follow when
processing credit card data over WLAN networks. Examples of WIPS requirements under PCI DSS
include:
Section 9.1.3 Physical Security: Restrict physical access to known wireless devices.
Section 10.5.4 Wireless Logs: Archive wireless access centrally using a WIPS for 1 year.
Section 11.1 Quarterly Wireless Scan: Scan all sites with card dataholder environments (CDE)
whether or not they have known WLAN APs in the CDE. Sampling of sites is not allowed. A WIPS
is recommended for large organizations since it is not possible to manually scan or conduct a
walk-around wireless security audit of all sites on a quarterly basis
Section 11.4 Monitor Alerts: Enable automatic WIPS alerts to instantly notify personnel of rogue
devices and unauthorized wireless connections into the CDE.
Section 12.9 Eliminate Threats: Prepare an incident response plan to monitor and respond to
alerts from the WIPS. Enable automatic containment mechanism on WIPS to block rogues and
unauthorized wireless connections.
------------------------------------------------
So you both have points.
On the post: FCC Fines Marriott For Jamming Customers' WiFi Hotspots To Push Them Onto Hotel's $1,000 Per Device WiFi
Custormers Still Screwed - didn't see anything about refunds!
This really doesn't suprise me though... if the service they did deliver was fast .. then 1000$ to hook up your own wireless so you could hand it out to attendees would be ok... but if it's for one client device, that is insane.
My firm has done numerous trade shows, normally we have to pay fee these days for decent internet connections (usually cable), 4-500$ for a week long show. It's all part of the space/booth fee.
Not long ago though we had to bring in our own connections - usually IDSN or if we were lucky DSL. Local telco would wire us up a circuit for the duration of the show.
On the post: FCC Fines Marriott For Jamming Customers' WiFi Hotspots To Push Them Onto Hotel's $1,000 Per Device WiFi
Re: Re: "...they will be protected from rogue wireless hot spots that can cause degraded service, insidious cyber-attacks and identity theft,"
On the post: Pro Music Artists/Reps Force Shutdown Of Awesome Fan-Music Contest For Video Game
Maybe I am Clueless - but how can the make then shut down the contest
If the company is running the contest to put music in "THEIR" game, they ask folks to contribute - fully voluntary, they make it clear that the vendor and runner of the contest will put the music of the winner(s) into the game, there will be no royalties, how can someone force them kill the contest?
As long as they verify the contributors are not under contract that stops them from contributing to the contest, how can some entity force them not to run it. I must be missing something here, how can an industry group have standing to do anything at all?
On the post: Student's Story About Shooting A Pet Dinosaur With A Gun Ends In Suspension, Arrest
Tough little sucker that killed a dino -- cops should be afraid
On the post: California Highway Patrol Seizes Medical Records Of Woman An Officer Was Caught On Tape Beating
Not so sure this is that bad, bad cop yes, bad situation?
1. Cop has women walking out into obviously very very busy highway.
2. He's chasing her on foot risking his life trying to save hers.
3. He can see what happens if she causes an accident on highway - lots of other folks could get hurt/killed.
4. She ignores his commands causing him to have to physically restrain her.
5. Probably he doesn't relish the idea he has to run out into highway to save her, possibly getting killed himself.
6. He'd probably say good riddance (not good but realistic) and let her get hit, but someone else would probably get hurt and he would burn for that too.
7. She fights back when he's trying to grab her, he way over reacts(but in the moment I can see how he could, just needs to be a better cop)...
8. He loses it, takes out his frustration, is she trying to bit him, hit him, etc.. all on the side of the highway just begging to get killed by a car/truck that didn't see everything.
Does he need to be disciplined, "YES" - in this case does he need to vilified -- not so sure. A lot of extenuating circumstances here. It's not like it 8-10 cops beating a drunk passed out guy w/night sticks. he's one guy trying save a psycho, who's not being cooperative, all why trying dodge cars on a busy busy highway, hoping he survives and can go home to his family at the end of the shift. I don't see much of a win-win result for anyone in this case.
Of course as usual the press has a field day, everyone pontificates, CHP over reacts too trying save face, no one wins -- sorta like the original situation...
On the post: Court Rejects Request That Secret NSA Evidence Used Against Terrorism Suspect Be Shared With Suspect's Lawyers
Just keep coming back to this - over & over & over
-Adolf Hitler
On the post: Medialink Threatens Customer With Lawsuit For Writing A Negative Amazon Review
Re: Re: I actually own a media link router
On the post: Medialink Threatens Customer With Lawsuit For Writing A Negative Amazon Review
I actually own a media link router
Company is stupid to call out a neg review when it's so overwhelmed by positives in the MediaLink case. But then if all the companies used their heads, they would all be driving gold plated benz's ... I swear the harbinger of the downfall of any civilization is the opening of the first law school!
On the post: Awesome Stuff: Stand While You Work
Chairbot -- in the real world we call that a bar foot rail
On the post: British Library Says It's Copyright Infringement To Take Photos Inside The Library; Demands Person Delete Tweet
Rules for Reading Room - so folks don't pic pages
Thank god for those keepers of the gate preventing terrorism and book copying -- same thing right?
On the post: British Library Says It's Copyright Infringement To Take Photos Inside The Library; Demands Person Delete Tweet
Re:
On the post: EU Re-Think Following Discovery Of Major Flaw In CETA Shows The Benefits Of Transparency
Hide it in the fine print....
On the post: Netflix, YouTube Streaming Gets Worse on Major ISPs, Who In Turn Blame the Deep, Dark Mysteries of the Internet
[VPN]
7 59 ms 60 ms 60 ms 206.111.0.65.ptr.us.xo.net [206.111.0.65]
8 135 ms 125 ms 132 ms vb2000d2.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.13.66]
9 135 ms 141 ms 140 ms te-11-0-0.rar3.sanjose-ca.us.xo.net [207.88.12.69]
10 149 ms 136 ms 131 ms 207.88.14.226.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.226]
11 126 ms 132 ms 129 ms 216.156.84.6.ptr.us.xo.net [216.156.84.6]
12 142 ms 141 ms 138 ms xe-2-2-0-955.jnrt-edge02.prod1.netflix.com [69.53.225.30]
13 140 ms 136 ms 133 ms te1-8.csrt-agg02.prod1.netflix.com [69.53.225.10]
14 136 ms 138 ms 141 ms netflix.co.uk [69.53.236.17]
[DIRECT]
7 28 ms 30 ms 30 ms he-3-2-0-0-cr01.ashburn.va.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.90.177]
8 27 ms 28 ms 26 ms he-0-12-0-0-pe07.ashburn.va.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.83.82]
9 84 ms 32 ms 34 ms dcx2-edge-01.inet.qwest.net [65.120.84.65]
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 104 ms 102 ms 102 ms 63.145.225.58
12 102 ms 103 ms 101 ms te1-8.csrt-agg01.prod1.netflix.com [69.53.225.6]
13 102 ms 102 ms 102 ms netflixinc.com [69.53.236.17]
First 6 entries almost identical just local hops, but when it get's handed off to the backbone it gets interesting. Note the different destinations depending on the backbone when it get to the same IP address but different domains resolved based on the backbone it rode? Not all that surprising but also when I route local via comcast - look at hop 10 when it's handed off to Qwest (not surprising in my experience with Qwest networks).
The VPN definitely increases the latency across the board as expected. But the fact that netflix is resolving different FQDN's to the same IP from different aggregate ports in their network, a touch weird but then I don't work much with networks with that kind of capacity.
Ever wonder why they call it a CLOUD?? Fully opaque, easy to get lost, only god/buddha/allah know how it works and they aren't really sure. So as much as I hate big ISP's I never ascribe malice to what most likely is based in incompetence.
On the post: Former Cop Proposes Law That Would Allow Officers To Ticket You Without Ever Leaving The 'Safety' Of Their Vehicles
Take all the fun out
Sounds like a good plan to lessen the issues of folks getting abused by the armed police forces since they don't even have to talk to you to fine you.
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