Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: When the labels disappear, the problem will likely take care of itself, so I don't think music licensing will continue to be an issue. It will all be free anyway.
good point.
but i was thinking more of control over "unfair" use after purchase , if there even was a purchase to start.
Re: Re: When the labels disappear, the problem will likely take care of itself, so I don't think music licensing will continue to be an issue. It will all be free anyway.
"Don't release it. People who want to make art to share it should do so. People who want to make art to control it should keep it to themselves. Seriously, if your goal is to control your art, don't let anybody else see or hear it. Mission accomplished."
ans: very true , for the home poet , who write for his own soul.
but i make ART to eat --also. It is my job. Society needs art,
most people will pay ,,,over and over even ,,, to support my art and me.
So you tell me -- what promotes knowledge and learning: letting people rearrange music and learn to use a video camera, or threatening new artists with $150,000 fines?
Re copyright law today:
"So you tell me -- what promotes knowledge and learning: letting people rearrange music and learn to use a video camera, or threatening new artists with $150,000 fines? "
Actually I'm not good example because I hate dealing with contracts, legalities, etc.
"Actually I'm not good example because I hate dealing with contracts, legalities, etc. "
Me tooo !!! , i actually cannot think of one major -lawyer musician.
George , again ; Sue Me, Sue You Blues by George Harrison.
((((( why did he make it the blues? Melodies and chords--public domain. The Blues. You cannot copyright the Blues. Thee chords by nature,, (( yes there are often 7ths , 9 flat sharps, in the blues,, and in George songs, those "naughty chords", he invented,,--- but ---I know you pirate geeks all knew that fact -- I write for the children watching at home))- )))))
Re: Re: Re: Re: When the labels disappear, the problem will likely take care of itself, so I don't think music licensing will continue to be an issue. It will all be free anyway.
Re: Re: Re: When the labels disappear, the problem will likely take care of itself, so I don't think music licensing will continue to be an issue. It will all be free anyway.
Actually let me clarify my Question:
"Technology will allow everyone to make their own art so there will be less incentive to grab someone else's."
But if I make mega-super - respected - sell-able Beatle type ART -- that billions want to buy with $$$,-------
Re: Re: When the labels disappear, the problem will likely take care of itself, so I don't think music licensing will continue to be an issue. It will all be free anyway.
"Technology will allow everyone to make their own art so there will be less incentive to grab someone else's."
Ans : But I ain't a Beatle. I ain't Shakespeare.
Ques: How does the rare Super-genius art -- that is sooooo rare,
fit into your vision Suzanne.
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Re: You're making it very trying for others to believe that dyslexia has no relation to IQ.
ME :Albert Einstein was dyslexic .
You make it very trying to take Pirates against copyright seriously.
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Try testifying before congress ,, and saying ,,"Senator you're a,,
F$%king , Moran ,, son-of - %@# , to protect the
copyrights of Artists!!!"
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you will get on Fox news.
But your cause will die.
But really it us dead already.
Copyright now , copyright forever.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: TP thinks rape is on the same terms as copyright infringement
Laws do evolve, Philosophies evolve.
Copyright is stable -- and has been since Plato.
Like laws against murder are stable and will always be,
If you think "copyright" , will become the "slavery" of the future,, you miss the boat of history.
Copyright protects the Artist , un-empowered , poor artists.
It protects them from Pirates big and Pirates small.
Please form all the "Pirate Political Parties" you want.
You Pirates will wind up in the trash bin of history -- with slavery.
email me back in 50 years with your answer.
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Re: Re: Ayn Rand addresses this.
Laws do evolve, Philosophies evolve.
Copyright is stable -- and has been since Plato.
Like laws against murder are stable and will always be,
If you think "copyright" , will become the "slavery" of the future,, you miss the boat of history.
Copyright protects the Artist , un-empowered , poor artists.
It protects them from Pirates big and Pirates small.
Please form all the "Pirate Political Parties" you want.
You Pirates will wind up in the trash bin of history -- with slavery.
email me back in 50 years with your answer.
ps. i will email scans of my diplomas if you wish
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Regardless, bad law is bad law.
Laws do evolve, Philosophies evolve.
Copyright is stable -- and has been since Plato.
Like laws against murder are stable and will always be,
If you think "copyright" , will become the "slavery" of the future,, you miss the boat of history.
Copyright protects the Artist , un-empowered , poor artists.
It protects them from Pirates big and Pirates small.
Please form all the "Pirate Political Parties" you want.
You Pirates will wind up in the trash bin of history -- with slavery.
email me back in 50 years with your answer.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: When the labels disappear, the problem will likely take care of itself, so I don't think music licensing will continue to be an issue. It will all be free anyway.
but i was thinking more of control over "unfair" use after purchase , if there even was a purchase to start.
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Re: Re: When the labels disappear, the problem will likely take care of itself, so I don't think music licensing will continue to be an issue. It will all be free anyway.
ans: very true , for the home poet , who write for his own soul.
but i make ART to eat --also. It is my job. Society needs art,
most people will pay ,,,over and over even ,,, to support my art and me.
copyright now . copyright forever.
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useful advocacy for IP by directly supporting pharma patents.
Darn it , Jim , i am a guitarist , not a bio-engineer. Get Spock to do it !!!!
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I know many musicians who cover other people's songs on YouTube as a way to get attention. They aren't asked to take those songs down.
I do at My space. ,, but the Pirates ( Karl esp) here, have been screaming I am some infringe monster for weeks now.
thank you for setting then strait Suzzanne.
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Re: Lots of people AREN'T getting sued
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I think more copyright holders should get their lawyers to sue children.
ANS : While I think this following point is obvious , never underestimate a techdirt reader:
No one suing children.
They are suing the adults who make the biz decisions ,
who employ the kiddies ,
or are their Girl Scout den mothers and their corp supervisors.. ( Girl Scouts is big,)
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RE:again : George Harrison, 'This Song'
times have changed
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So you tell me -- what promotes knowledge and learning: letting people rearrange music and learn to use a video camera, or threatening new artists with $150,000 fines?
"So you tell me -- what promotes knowledge and learning: letting people rearrange music and learn to use a video camera, or threatening new artists with $150,000 fines? "
Ans. by Me: maybe.
Suzanne ? your take please. (thanks )
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Re: "The Osgood File," CBS Radio: on that Dan Pink book. today
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/05/ff_pink_shirky/all/1
"Cognitive Surplus: The Great Spare-Time Revolution"
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"The Osgood File," CBS Radio: on that Dan Pink book. today
Try to get a listen. You might like the spin.
but might not too
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Actually I'm not good example because I hate dealing with contracts, legalities, etc.
Me tooo !!! , i actually cannot think of one major -lawyer musician.
George , again ; Sue Me, Sue You Blues by George Harrison.
((((( why did he make it the blues? Melodies and chords--public domain. The Blues. You cannot copyright the Blues. Thee chords by nature,, (( yes there are often 7ths , 9 flat sharps, in the blues,, and in George songs, those "naughty chords", he invented,,--- but ---I know you pirate geeks all knew that fact -- I write for the children watching at home))- )))))
http://s0.ilike.com/play#George+Harrison:Sue+Me%2C+Sue+You+Blues:800676:m8392747
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ps. Brian May of Queen, has Phd. in astronomy stuff. But still no musician lawyers of note.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: When the labels disappear, the problem will likely take care of itself, so I don't think music licensing will continue to be an issue. It will all be free anyway.
I hope the Pirates understand you too.
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Re: Re: Re: When the labels disappear, the problem will likely take care of itself, so I don't think music licensing will continue to be an issue. It will all be free anyway.
"Technology will allow everyone to make their own art so there will be less incentive to grab someone else's."
But if I make mega-super - respected - sell-able Beatle type ART -- that billions want to buy with $$$,-------
How do I fit into your vision Suzanne?
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Re: Re: When the labels disappear, the problem will likely take care of itself, so I don't think music licensing will continue to be an issue. It will all be free anyway.
Ans : But I ain't a Beatle. I ain't Shakespeare.
Ques: How does the rare Super-genius art -- that is sooooo rare,
fit into your vision Suzanne.
thanks .
This is very interesting thought you offer.
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Of course many successful artists have conveniently ignored copyright law.
ME : ARTIST CONTROL. part of the law.
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Great post Phil. very accurate write on music culture,
Chuck Berry himself never sued The Rolling Stones.
Woody Guthrie ( or his estate ) , never sued Bob Dylan .
( As most may know , Dylan held vigil next to Woody's death bed.)
MUSICIAN CULTURE -- Copyright laws are often suspended Musician to Musician.
Yes is a corp - slime -biz -- now owns the "Songs",, they sue musicians,, but other musicians , rarely sue , other good faith Musicians,
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again : George Harrison, 'This Song'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsUkACDSIZY.
One of the first real rock videos. a blazing tune , well played. by serious pros.
watch enjoy. very relevant to our discussion.
Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Sweet_Lord
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and while we are here :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGbRHxM4X2g&feature=related
Eric Idle & George Harrison's -- "The Pirate Song"
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all without a single disclaimer or character mentioning the difficulty (or impossibility) of getting the required licences.
If they are smart Artists, the Glee producers & writers
, will mention "the difficulty (or impossibility) of getting the required licences.", ,,,
,,,next season.
and if they are really smart ,
, they are reading this thread,
to get a pulse on the "TV viewing techno-public" that is here at techdirt.
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