thats pretty funny, considering spotify is alot like youtube, and I have bought alot of music due to youtube music videos (user made) that featured songs from a band i had never even heard of.
I even imported a few pieces from the EU because nobody sold them on this side of the pond.
I also know many people who use "internet radio" or "streaming music" services and just set it to random so they can hear new stuff, one of my friends has bought thousands of songs thanks to services like slacker radio and spotify....
Your lies also suggest you cant find new music via torrents, and funny enough, I have found alot of what I have bought over the years via torrents as well, because I was able to find it free at good quality and try it....
to this day, I will que up some random stuff thats popular and give it a listen, if I like it, I buy it(on cd, never buy mp3's or aac files, quality sucks compared to a good flac rip.)
because they have no respect for the public, we are not rich, we are not powerful, we should in there eyes, sit down, shut up and be happy with what we are given, even if its a plate of moldy crap.
hes likely one of the people behind http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page their well thought out arguement is that wikipedia has liberal bias so they needed to counter it with conservative bias....and religious dogma.
no, but as I and others have said, it shouldnt be a legal issue, this should be dealt with social mechanisms, the girl should learn to deal with it and turn their actions back on them without having to take legal action.
Im quite sure shes angery as hell and just wants revenge for somebody making sport of her.
something I have learned about women and had confirmed when talking with every woman i know, women are on average FAR FAR FAR more vindictive then men, they will remember a small slight for decades, where most guys will forget even major slites quite quickly.
I have never seen 2 women get in a fight then endup friends.....yet I have seen many cases of men/boys getting into knock down drag out fights, and endup friends....
I once watched a girl dump a 2lt of orange soda over a friends head, for something he did in jr.high...when she said what it was....i about fell over....
he had made the horrible mistake of teasing about the sound her flipflops made when she walked....
this was over a decade after we got out of highschool, and she was still holding a grudge....
thankfully with the soda, no real harm done, he was just wet and sticky...
also another note here, bullying use to be physical, the rest was harassment and teasing, I would put this in the extream end of the latter 2, she was not physically threatened or attacked, she was just made fun of...sure in a very mean spirited way...but hey, thats life....
I weep for the nation when we start passing laws that make it a crime to be a jackass online....because 98% of the people online are going to be felons.
I think the problem is Danielle dosnt understand that not everybody is like her, and many people, specially those raised to sue or report everything to the authorities are prone to doing just that any time somebody upsets them.
a friend of mine (showed him this topic) said it reminded him of his sister who grew up with their mother, any time anybody upsets her she calls the cops and files a police report.
Im not joking, she once did it on me for telling her to "grow up" when she was crying about somebody giving her the finger in traffic....(she was acting like a little kid who had his lolly taken away)
this action came about because their mother did the same thing and sued anybody who upset her, shes so well known in the town she raised his sister in that the cops and 911 operators know her voice.
she gets zero respect from the cops anymore, shes barred from entering many establishments in town(including walmart) all because shes got this sense of entitlement to legal protection from anything that could upset her....
his sister and mother have both also filed reports and complaints about books they didnt like being on shelves of book stores(harry potter for example)
nobody knows why moms that way, but I would guess she got the example from somebody she grew up around....
the fact is, once you teach somebody that "this is how you deal with XX situation" and that it works, they will use that as their first option rather then last.
I honestly expect this girl to sue anybody who truly upsets her IF she wins this case, because it will re-enforce her belief that the legal routs the best rout.
Oh another example of this kind of behavior is people like an aunt-in-law of mine who intentionally gets in car wrecks to collect the insurance money.....shes on wreck 18 or 19 now....why would she keep doing this and harming herself.....because it makes her money....
people who sue doctors for anything and everything...same deal once they win a case, they tend to file another one...then they are upset no doctors will see them anymore....
so when she sues because shes not happy with her work performance evaluation and it upsets her very much, thats nothing like suing because somebody made fun of her on the internet?
seems pretty close to me....thin skin and if she wins this(likely) she will have a sense of this being the best way to deal with people hurting her feelings/making fun of her.
sorry, but as somebody whos seen his share of job evaluations(for myself and others) I can tell you, some people get very upset over even minor admonishments to their performance, one guy threw his laptop threw a window when it was pointed out he spent to much time on the phone with some clients...(3hrs for a single client....a bit much...specially seeing he was sales....)
but hey, more power to her and you Danielle, if you think sueing people for being mean to you on the internet or at work is the best way to handle this stuff, have at it... and good luck tracking down all the people who ridicule and make fund of you online....
they could have just deleted the page and walked away, but, there must have been something inspiring them to keep it going, she had to be giving them something they wanted....
yes, it was idiotic and cruel of them, but, how she reacted to their actions is very likely why this kept up.
I feel for her, she let them get to her, she let them make her feel upset and angery, she let them drive her to do something that will very likely cause her to be even less popular among her fellow students....
im quite sure had she not reacted at all or only by saying the page was fake and who made it, they wouldnt have kept doing it, because wheres the fun in teasing/harassing somebody who wont react?
again, I have delt with this kind of thing most of my life, kids are stupid and cruel, but, the thing is, acting that way isnt fun when you cant see the reaction.
wheres the motivation to keep going for months let alone years if the person dosnt react in a negative way?
again, its all about how you react to stuff like this, there are many ways to react to disarm the situation, to make it "not fun" for the people doing it, this isnt one of them, if anything this very likely will have the opposite effect, she will be even more ostracized and lonely.....because who wants to risk upsetting somebody and getting sued.
the girl could have delt with the fake page by making a real one and/or just making it clear that wasnt her page.
I bet she could even have gotten the school to announce it wasnt her real facebook page if it was as big an issue as all that.
shes being STUPID for suing if you ask me, this will just lead to her having LESS people willing to have anything to do with her.
heres an example from my own life a few years back.
we had a woman working at the place I worked, she seemed like a nice girl, kinda shy but polite and kind, she mostly took calls and did paperwork/filing, in an area of the company that was mostly women( I was tech support so i was around alot fixing printers and such)
she sued a coworker for sexual harassment because he had the gaul to point out that one of her tata's had slipped part way out of her bra, no, im not kidding that was the whole case, she also sued the company, she kept the job but was very upset NOBODY wanted to talk to or be around her without it being on the company audio/visual servileness system. and even then it was always a turse interaction.
none of us wanted to risk being sued, the company settled the case and part of the settlement was they couldnt fire her.....(i read it, it was a bad settlement but cheaper then fighting it in court)
she couldnt understand why nobody wanted anything to do with her....was very upset about it....
note: the guy she sued was not only one of the kindest nicest least sexist people you could ever hope to meet, he was also very very gay(zero interest in women)
all shes going to endup with is even less friends and more people talkin smack about her.....
yeah it was wrong for them to do this, and yes somebody could find it years from now, but guess what, most employers who look at these things will be far more willing to accept "that page is fake" if its in your attached cover letter or a simple note you attach.
also, very few employers I have worked for would take a jr.high blog/myspace/facebook page as anything but the rantings of a child....if it was an adults page or late highschool, that could be different, but. shes 14 and 7th grade, i really doubt anybody will care by the time she enters the work force.
and god help her when she enters the job market...she will be suing employers and coworkers left and right over being mean to her.
I have seen timeouts being called abuse by social workers because they "mentally harm the child" same with grounding and taking away stuff like tv and videogames.
your not allowed to parent your children in this country anymore....you need to let them run a muck and do as they please if you dont want them becoming wards of the state and yourself becoming a guest of the gray bar hotel.
punishment of any kid is viewed as some form of abuse.
spanking: physical abuse
grounding: social and mental abuse
taking away their tv/videogames: mental abuse
making them stand in the corner(or sit in the corner) mental abuse(And social abuse if anybody else sees it)
I mean, I agree, Parents should parent and should be able to punish their kids.....but when anything you do could lead to your kids being wards of the state and you being in jail.....
not really, many are just kids trying to fit in, they do what they do because they are stupid, they want to fit in with their peer group, they think its cool(many even feel bad about it after they do it..)
very few people are true sociopaths or psychopaths, some are, and some carry that bully attidue into adulthood, where most loose it as they get older.
a couple good examples are people I went to HS with.
one was a guy who use to harass me endlessly and relentlessly, it didnt bother me, and i gave as good as i got, but he saw me one day in the parking lot at safeway(grocery store) and called my name and came over and apologized he was quite sincere and even took me out for lunch and we talked, had some laughs...hes turned into a good guy.
on the other hand there was this guy who use to do little dirty underhanded things to try and get people in trouble and who liked to bully people, He now works for his uncle at a local hardware/building supply store, he STILL tries to bully and intimidate people, the reason he works for uncle is that nobody else will hire him, hes been fired from every job hes had, he also has been in jail multi times for his actions....
his uncle and family are good people, hes just truely a sociopath(he knows what hes doing is wrong, just dosnt care that its wrong)
that said, i doubt these kids are really either, most likely they are just doing this to get attention, if that went away they would stop because it wouldnt be fun anymore...
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all i can guess is the kids knew not to update that facebook accts info/make posts from it at school, I do think the school should have brought them all into a room and had a talk and they very well may have, but thats not gonna stop jerk kids from being jerk kids or crybaby kids from crying to mommy and daddy about people being mean to them.
the fact is, theres no fix for the problems caused by people interacting with each other outside not letting them interact with anybody.
In cases like this, social justice is the best fix, the girl, if she had handled this correctly herself could have made to so that this wasnt fun for the kids doing it, she could have made it so that rather then her being the object of ridicule the ones making the posts where the subject of ridicule.
once you learn to not give a crap about other peoples opinion of you and their attempts to upset you, you gain a freedom and centering that can and will serve you well threw out out life.
once you learn to think logically about such things you can find ways to deal with idiots like the ones making fun of her that dont involve legal action or physical violance, but instead involve making them the object of scorn and ridicule.
when I was in school myspace was big(the facebook of its day) as where yahoo chat and some others where lots of people at the school hung out, back then if people harassed you online, you just delt with it, you didnt go running to the teacher or mommy/daddy, very few kids resorted to that when i was in HS, and those that did for the most part ended up with their parents telling them to grow thicker skin...only once did i ever see a parent threaten legal action, and it was over a LIE her own daughter was telling about being sexually harassed, when the full story came out, the girl(Who was trying to cause problems for a teacher and a slew of students) ended up being ostracized, she had no friends to speak of, nobody would even look at her or talk to her....even teachers ignored her...
you know its effectivly illegal to punish your kids now days, they say anything you do could cause perminant psycic damage to the child.
spanking= physical abuse.
grounding= social and mental abuse.
sitting kid in the corner= same as above.
you cant even scold your kid in public because somebody will call the cops.....
our society has become retarded......
IMHO the best fix for these problems would be to follow what Robert A. Heinlein puts down in starship troopers, for serious childhood infractions both the kid and parent get "Flogged" (like a kaining) in public, for minor but serious infractions, you get a spanking, even in school, I know when i was in elementary school that was still allowed, never done but the threat of it kept kids in line.
for most situations like this, you need to let the kids involved work things out on their own and encourage them to figure out solutions to their own problems, rather then bring the law into it....again I feel for this girl, shes going to endup being even more of an out cast then she apparently already is....
Im more a fan of social justice, and in this case, that means that the people responsible(kids who made the page) are publicly shamed.
after reading your blog on this, I agree to a point, but also, teen age boys(And girls even) talk alot of smack, 90+% of it is just that, taking smack, if you cant learn to deal with it, how are you going to deal with that really annoying boss or co-worker you runinto later....
I admit, your very unlikley to get anything close to the comments made by those teen boys in the adult world, BUT you can get things that are just as....offensive to an adult, tho veiled far more(in some ways, you gotta admit, teens and kids are far more honest and forthright then adults, rather then obfuscate their words, they just say what they are thinking, even if their language points out clear deficiencies in their vocabular education.
In many ways, I wish more people where like that, say what you mean, even if its blunt and rude...
but then again, i grew rhino/hippo skin, so that kinda thing dosnt bother me....had a guy call up yesterday and curse me out for 5 strait minutes becase we turned him over to collections on a 4 year old bill he refused to respond to....he got even madder when i started laughing at his tirade...
for all we know the families being sued do have money and dont have huge banks of lawyers on retainer to counter sue.
and if you watch some of the videos they use to talk about how horrible bullying is now days, its nothing compared to when I was in school(and likely when you where in school) its mostly verbal teasing and online teasing.
I would have been happy to have the level of teasing/harassment knocked down to that level when i was in school...honestly...
what I have to wonder is, hows this going to really help?
its very likely the girl will be shunned even more, for fear that if you make fun of her or upset her your family will get sued.
hows that gonna help her?
make her even more lonely and outcast?
I mean I feel for the girl, not only is she being made sport of, shes also letting it get to her and her parents clearly arent teaching her coping skills, instead they are teaching her to sue...
I see a future for this girl of sueing employers because they where "mean" to her...
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I even imported a few pieces from the EU because nobody sold them on this side of the pond.
I also know many people who use "internet radio" or "streaming music" services and just set it to random so they can hear new stuff, one of my friends has bought thousands of songs thanks to services like slacker radio and spotify....
Your lies also suggest you cant find new music via torrents, and funny enough, I have found alot of what I have bought over the years via torrents as well, because I was able to find it free at good quality and try it....
to this day, I will que up some random stuff thats popular and give it a listen, if I like it, I buy it(on cd, never buy mp3's or aac files, quality sucks compared to a good flac rip.)
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Im quite sure shes angery as hell and just wants revenge for somebody making sport of her.
something I have learned about women and had confirmed when talking with every woman i know, women are on average FAR FAR FAR more vindictive then men, they will remember a small slight for decades, where most guys will forget even major slites quite quickly.
I have never seen 2 women get in a fight then endup friends.....yet I have seen many cases of men/boys getting into knock down drag out fights, and endup friends....
I once watched a girl dump a 2lt of orange soda over a friends head, for something he did in jr.high...when she said what it was....i about fell over....
he had made the horrible mistake of teasing about the sound her flipflops made when she walked....
this was over a decade after we got out of highschool, and she was still holding a grudge....
thankfully with the soda, no real harm done, he was just wet and sticky...
also another note here, bullying use to be physical, the rest was harassment and teasing, I would put this in the extream end of the latter 2, she was not physically threatened or attacked, she was just made fun of...sure in a very mean spirited way...but hey, thats life....
I weep for the nation when we start passing laws that make it a crime to be a jackass online....because 98% of the people online are going to be felons.
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I think the problem is Danielle dosnt understand that not everybody is like her, and many people, specially those raised to sue or report everything to the authorities are prone to doing just that any time somebody upsets them.
a friend of mine (showed him this topic) said it reminded him of his sister who grew up with their mother, any time anybody upsets her she calls the cops and files a police report.
Im not joking, she once did it on me for telling her to "grow up" when she was crying about somebody giving her the finger in traffic....(she was acting like a little kid who had his lolly taken away)
this action came about because their mother did the same thing and sued anybody who upset her, shes so well known in the town she raised his sister in that the cops and 911 operators know her voice.
she gets zero respect from the cops anymore, shes barred from entering many establishments in town(including walmart) all because shes got this sense of entitlement to legal protection from anything that could upset her....
his sister and mother have both also filed reports and complaints about books they didnt like being on shelves of book stores(harry potter for example)
nobody knows why moms that way, but I would guess she got the example from somebody she grew up around....
the fact is, once you teach somebody that "this is how you deal with XX situation" and that it works, they will use that as their first option rather then last.
I honestly expect this girl to sue anybody who truly upsets her IF she wins this case, because it will re-enforce her belief that the legal routs the best rout.
Oh another example of this kind of behavior is people like an aunt-in-law of mine who intentionally gets in car wrecks to collect the insurance money.....shes on wreck 18 or 19 now....why would she keep doing this and harming herself.....because it makes her money....
people who sue doctors for anything and everything...same deal once they win a case, they tend to file another one...then they are upset no doctors will see them anymore....
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heres the thing when they where around they punished me when i deserved it and gave me accolades when i deserved it.
When I did something really stupid or really broke the rules, i got spanked(not beat, spanked theres a difference)
guess what, it worked, I also learned to stand up for myself and to let peoples stupidity and cruelty roll off me like watter off a ducks back.
the problem today is society dosnt want you to punish your kids but then is upset that kids have no idea of boundaries and rules, no self control.
again I agree, society is to blame, and its only going to get worse....because now even timeouts are being called abuse....
and nobody seems to want to teach their kids to have thick skin anymore.
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seems pretty close to me....thin skin and if she wins this(likely) she will have a sense of this being the best way to deal with people hurting her feelings/making fun of her.
sorry, but as somebody whos seen his share of job evaluations(for myself and others) I can tell you, some people get very upset over even minor admonishments to their performance, one guy threw his laptop threw a window when it was pointed out he spent to much time on the phone with some clients...(3hrs for a single client....a bit much...specially seeing he was sales....)
but hey, more power to her and you Danielle, if you think sueing people for being mean to you on the internet or at work is the best way to handle this stuff, have at it... and good luck tracking down all the people who ridicule and make fund of you online....
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yes, it was idiotic and cruel of them, but, how she reacted to their actions is very likely why this kept up.
I feel for her, she let them get to her, she let them make her feel upset and angery, she let them drive her to do something that will very likely cause her to be even less popular among her fellow students....
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again, I have delt with this kind of thing most of my life, kids are stupid and cruel, but, the thing is, acting that way isnt fun when you cant see the reaction.
wheres the motivation to keep going for months let alone years if the person dosnt react in a negative way?
again, its all about how you react to stuff like this, there are many ways to react to disarm the situation, to make it "not fun" for the people doing it, this isnt one of them, if anything this very likely will have the opposite effect, she will be even more ostracized and lonely.....because who wants to risk upsetting somebody and getting sued.
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I bet she could even have gotten the school to announce it wasnt her real facebook page if it was as big an issue as all that.
shes being STUPID for suing if you ask me, this will just lead to her having LESS people willing to have anything to do with her.
heres an example from my own life a few years back.
we had a woman working at the place I worked, she seemed like a nice girl, kinda shy but polite and kind, she mostly took calls and did paperwork/filing, in an area of the company that was mostly women( I was tech support so i was around alot fixing printers and such)
she sued a coworker for sexual harassment because he had the gaul to point out that one of her tata's had slipped part way out of her bra, no, im not kidding that was the whole case, she also sued the company, she kept the job but was very upset NOBODY wanted to talk to or be around her without it being on the company audio/visual servileness system. and even then it was always a turse interaction.
none of us wanted to risk being sued, the company settled the case and part of the settlement was they couldnt fire her.....(i read it, it was a bad settlement but cheaper then fighting it in court)
she couldnt understand why nobody wanted anything to do with her....was very upset about it....
note: the guy she sued was not only one of the kindest nicest least sexist people you could ever hope to meet, he was also very very gay(zero interest in women)
all shes going to endup with is even less friends and more people talkin smack about her.....
yeah it was wrong for them to do this, and yes somebody could find it years from now, but guess what, most employers who look at these things will be far more willing to accept "that page is fake" if its in your attached cover letter or a simple note you attach.
also, very few employers I have worked for would take a jr.high blog/myspace/facebook page as anything but the rantings of a child....if it was an adults page or late highschool, that could be different, but. shes 14 and 7th grade, i really doubt anybody will care by the time she enters the work force.
and god help her when she enters the job market...she will be suing employers and coworkers left and right over being mean to her.
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your not allowed to parent your children in this country anymore....you need to let them run a muck and do as they please if you dont want them becoming wards of the state and yourself becoming a guest of the gray bar hotel.
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punishment of any kid is viewed as some form of abuse.
spanking: physical abuse
grounding: social and mental abuse
taking away their tv/videogames: mental abuse
making them stand in the corner(or sit in the corner) mental abuse(And social abuse if anybody else sees it)
I mean, I agree, Parents should parent and should be able to punish their kids.....but when anything you do could lead to your kids being wards of the state and you being in jail.....
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very few people are true sociopaths or psychopaths, some are, and some carry that bully attidue into adulthood, where most loose it as they get older.
a couple good examples are people I went to HS with.
one was a guy who use to harass me endlessly and relentlessly, it didnt bother me, and i gave as good as i got, but he saw me one day in the parking lot at safeway(grocery store) and called my name and came over and apologized he was quite sincere and even took me out for lunch and we talked, had some laughs...hes turned into a good guy.
on the other hand there was this guy who use to do little dirty underhanded things to try and get people in trouble and who liked to bully people, He now works for his uncle at a local hardware/building supply store, he STILL tries to bully and intimidate people, the reason he works for uncle is that nobody else will hire him, hes been fired from every job hes had, he also has been in jail multi times for his actions....
his uncle and family are good people, hes just truely a sociopath(he knows what hes doing is wrong, just dosnt care that its wrong)
that said, i doubt these kids are really either, most likely they are just doing this to get attention, if that went away they would stop because it wouldnt be fun anymore...
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the fact is, theres no fix for the problems caused by people interacting with each other outside not letting them interact with anybody.
In cases like this, social justice is the best fix, the girl, if she had handled this correctly herself could have made to so that this wasnt fun for the kids doing it, she could have made it so that rather then her being the object of ridicule the ones making the posts where the subject of ridicule.
once you learn to not give a crap about other peoples opinion of you and their attempts to upset you, you gain a freedom and centering that can and will serve you well threw out out life.
once you learn to think logically about such things you can find ways to deal with idiots like the ones making fun of her that dont involve legal action or physical violance, but instead involve making them the object of scorn and ridicule.
when I was in school myspace was big(the facebook of its day) as where yahoo chat and some others where lots of people at the school hung out, back then if people harassed you online, you just delt with it, you didnt go running to the teacher or mommy/daddy, very few kids resorted to that when i was in HS, and those that did for the most part ended up with their parents telling them to grow thicker skin...only once did i ever see a parent threaten legal action, and it was over a LIE her own daughter was telling about being sexually harassed, when the full story came out, the girl(Who was trying to cause problems for a teacher and a slew of students) ended up being ostracized, she had no friends to speak of, nobody would even look at her or talk to her....even teachers ignored her...
social justice at work....
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spanking= physical abuse.
grounding= social and mental abuse.
sitting kid in the corner= same as above.
you cant even scold your kid in public because somebody will call the cops.....
our society has become retarded......
IMHO the best fix for these problems would be to follow what Robert A. Heinlein puts down in starship troopers, for serious childhood infractions both the kid and parent get "Flogged" (like a kaining) in public, for minor but serious infractions, you get a spanking, even in school, I know when i was in elementary school that was still allowed, never done but the threat of it kept kids in line.
for most situations like this, you need to let the kids involved work things out on their own and encourage them to figure out solutions to their own problems, rather then bring the law into it....again I feel for this girl, shes going to endup being even more of an out cast then she apparently already is....
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after reading your blog on this, I agree to a point, but also, teen age boys(And girls even) talk alot of smack, 90+% of it is just that, taking smack, if you cant learn to deal with it, how are you going to deal with that really annoying boss or co-worker you runinto later....
I admit, your very unlikley to get anything close to the comments made by those teen boys in the adult world, BUT you can get things that are just as....offensive to an adult, tho veiled far more(in some ways, you gotta admit, teens and kids are far more honest and forthright then adults, rather then obfuscate their words, they just say what they are thinking, even if their language points out clear deficiencies in their vocabular education.
In many ways, I wish more people where like that, say what you mean, even if its blunt and rude...
but then again, i grew rhino/hippo skin, so that kinda thing dosnt bother me....had a guy call up yesterday and curse me out for 5 strait minutes becase we turned him over to collections on a 4 year old bill he refused to respond to....he got even madder when i started laughing at his tirade...
On the post: Does It Makes Sense To Charge Kids & Their Parents With Libel For Online Bullying?
Re: Re: people need to grow a pair
and if you watch some of the videos they use to talk about how horrible bullying is now days, its nothing compared to when I was in school(and likely when you where in school) its mostly verbal teasing and online teasing.
I would have been happy to have the level of teasing/harassment knocked down to that level when i was in school...honestly...
what I have to wonder is, hows this going to really help?
its very likely the girl will be shunned even more, for fear that if you make fun of her or upset her your family will get sued.
hows that gonna help her?
make her even more lonely and outcast?
I mean I feel for the girl, not only is she being made sport of, shes also letting it get to her and her parents clearly arent teaching her coping skills, instead they are teaching her to sue...
I see a future for this girl of sueing employers because they where "mean" to her...
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