Music Industry Music Industry by Mike Masnick Mon, Jun 7th 2010 11:15am Share This Filed Under: lawsuits, riaa, success Companies: riaa Permalink. Defining Success: Were The RIAA's Lawsuits A Success Or Not?
No one is saying the current system is not flawed.
Democracy moves slow.
"The Internet of Civilian Broadband Age" is is barely a dozen years old.
How many people had enough bandwidth ten years ago
to be a Pirate ?
a few hundred thousand maybe ,,
Today ,,, how many ?
hundreds of millions ,,
and soon ten years from now
ONE billion ,( if not two or three )
human beings will have 4G at
their fingertips,
There are gonna be to many Pirates
unless we stop them now !
The Governments of the USA and elsewhere, got a lot ofwork
to do in "IP law stuff" , from local to global,,
to bring the laws up to speed.
Now this is GOVERNMENT we are talking about.
And I can tell you as someone who work and lived in politics
for a long time ,
that GOVERNMENT SUCKs !!
They are going to get it wrong alot.
Sometimes Gov"T blows it big time.
(Glad i did not have a home w/mortgage too loose,. I rent.)
What saves us , are the "Principles."
Crime is wrong.
Define crime,, What is what is not.
Murder & theft is easy,
But when dealing with copyright laws
in the "global digital age",
it is going to take time to get it right.
But the laws will get stronger to better protect Artists and
Writers and etc, in the future,
That is the principle that saves us. It is embedded in the
U.S. Constitution.
It is in the Federalist papers
John Locke to Ayn Rand write about
the moral importance of IP
and copyright protection
as part of a moral society,
Find ONE major , well studied , political philosopher who says
"ABOLISH COPYRIGHT LAWS".
there is none !!
Zilch ,
nadda ,
Zero.
The Laws are going to, and
constitutionally have have to,
change for the better to strengthen Copyrights..
If we do not do well in Congress
in getting good laws for Artist written .
We got the Courts sown up.
The copyright clause of the Constitution is all we need.
[If you doubt that Mike , interview 3 or 4 Copyright law proffs]
In the "game of court and law "
it is easy VICTORY for
"the ARTIST"
over "the PIRATES."
It won't even go to extra inngs
Get used to it.
IP law stuff , is just too big of a GIANT
bedrock of American Legal Principle,
AND short of armed revolt by Pirates,
just ain't gonna change.
(Patents I do not know about well enough to jam there. )
-----
Copyright law come from governments.
Democracy is slower sometimes than
the changes,
NEEDE,,
because of "checks" and "balances"
"of power" in
our USA
gov't.
( Do not tell me you did not learn that in 6th or even 3rd grade social studies , Check any state regents exam,, it is there. )
Things will take some time.
But Artist & co will defeat Pirates to all reason possible.
So, according to your moral values, Steely Dan should be sued, and prevented from using that phrase ever again.
"So, according to your moral values, Steely Dan should be sued, and prevented from using that phrase ever again."
ME : how or where did i say that ? you know you cannot copyright Idioms, Metaphors , or facts. All i did was point out that "Steely Dan" did not make up the phrase "Pretzel Logic"
Again Karl, REALLY DUMB POST !!
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p.s
Steely Dan = true musical genius.
I Love & envy them
P.S. Rich . got your email. Your PhD is NOT in Physics, You claim physics and Einstein Quantum theories was your PhD.
Your Phd is in computer games. Not Physics .
From You :
"Course Leader of MSc/Postgraduate Diploma Computer Games Systems and MSc/Postgraduate Diploma Real-Time Computing Applications. Module Leader of Graphics for Games and Dynamics Modelling and 3D Games Algorithms
Re: Relevant article on the changing nature of art
Great post again Suzanne.
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The Pirates here are to busy Writing to ever Read anything meaningful , that needs introspection , and self examination.
-----------------------------
Little hint Pirate guys, Research and then form opinions.
Don;t have an opinion , and then research only to support your opinion.
You too Mike. your posts are too long , and your concepts full of holes.
me too ,, very busy ,, I do techdirt , over morning coffee,, and then before bed beer. But I cannot live here.
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We need more Pirate slayers to post here !!!
To the tune of "Kill the Rabbit" ( which is from opera)
"Kill the Pirates ,, Kill the Pirates ....... Kill the Piraaaates"
---- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What%27s_Opera,_Doc%3F
What's Opera, Doc? is a 1957 American animated cartoon short in the Merrie Melodies ... and, apparently appalled, sings his signature line "What's up, doc? ...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: "How Monetary Rewards Can Demotivate Creative Works"Perhaps Richard doesn't want to identify himself for the same reason you won't identify yourself.
Karl, you are nutty wrong again.
Richard has not yet send me professional level documentation.
Hi links and articles are a sham.
He does not even know the titie of his PhD. thesis , IF he had a resume it would have to be there.
I have said Richard can contact me directly , through email , if he does not want to pot here.
My email is available with 2 two clicks away form profile here .
Other posters have contacted me that way .
Why can't Richard ? BECAUSE he has no PhD. He is a lying fool .
No one learned the concepts of copyright law in elementary school. You're lying.
You were probably on drugs and forgot .
I never lie.. I is against my religion.
I am a nearly ordained Orthodox Rabbi.
( I got to take the formal "Rabbi" tests . I do not like taking tests, so I am blowing ti off , till I got time to concentrate on it .)
Re: Re: Re: in a digital world, actively seeking out illegal downloads and pointing to them has nearly the same net effect as hosting them. think of it another way, it is a simple criminal conspiracy:
Civil is still illegal and wrong. If you fail to comply with civil court orders , you can go to jail if you piss off the judge.
Re: Re: it is like a street runner telling you which door to knock to get crack. they are involved in the transaction. I believe that's completely legal, and it is a completely different situation.
Ladies and Gentleman ,, A Pirate, speaks,
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good time again to take a break ,, and watch a little George Harrison and Monty Python view on this matter,, after the whole My sweet Lord lawsuit stuff.
Re: Re: So long and thank someone for all the fish soup. Re: Re: Re: It's still amazing that any court thinks that just publishing links to something should be illegal,Robots will make artists obsolete.
Re: Re: then only artists should comment on the arts.
"Who would dare say different?"
Yes . if the copying is outside of COPYright laws.
--------------
(why do , bother coming here? Because I hate Pirates stealing peoples work, and techdirt is full of Pirates -- if the earbud fits wear it !! )
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Music Industry Music Industry by Mike Masnick Mon, Jun 7th 2010 11:15am Share This Filed Under: lawsuits, riaa, success Companies: riaa Permalink. Defining Success: Were The RIAA's Lawsuits A Success Or Not?
Democracy moves slow.
"The Internet of Civilian Broadband Age" is is barely a dozen years old.
How many people had enough bandwidth ten years ago
to be a Pirate ?
a few hundred thousand maybe ,,
Today ,,, how many ?
hundreds of millions ,,
and soon ten years from now
ONE billion ,( if not two or three )
human beings will have 4G at
their fingertips,
There are gonna be to many Pirates
unless we stop them now !
The Governments of the USA and elsewhere, got a lot ofwork
to do in "IP law stuff" , from local to global,,
to bring the laws up to speed.
Now this is GOVERNMENT we are talking about.
And I can tell you as someone who work and lived in politics
for a long time ,
that GOVERNMENT SUCKs !!
They are going to get it wrong alot.
Sometimes Gov"T blows it big time.
(Glad i did not have a home w/mortgage too loose,. I rent.)
What saves us , are the "Principles."
Crime is wrong.
Define crime,, What is what is not.
Murder & theft is easy,
But when dealing with copyright laws
in the "global digital age",
it is going to take time to get it right.
But the laws will get stronger to better protect Artists and
Writers and etc, in the future,
That is the principle that saves us. It is embedded in the
U.S. Constitution.
It is in the Federalist papers
John Locke to Ayn Rand write about
the moral importance of IP
and copyright protection
as part of a moral society,
Find ONE major , well studied , political philosopher who says
"ABOLISH COPYRIGHT LAWS".
there is none !!
Zilch ,
nadda ,
Zero.
The Laws are going to, and
constitutionally have have to,
change for the better to strengthen Copyrights..
If we do not do well in Congress
in getting good laws for Artist written .
We got the Courts sown up.
The copyright clause of the Constitution is all we need.
[If you doubt that Mike , interview 3 or 4 Copyright law proffs]
In the "game of court and law "
it is easy VICTORY for
"the ARTIST"
over "the PIRATES."
It won't even go to extra inngs
Get used to it.
IP law stuff , is just too big of a GIANT
bedrock of American Legal Principle,
AND short of armed revolt by Pirates,
just ain't gonna change.
(Patents I do not know about well enough to jam there. )
-----
Copyright law come from governments.
Democracy is slower sometimes than
the changes,
NEEDE,,
because of "checks" and "balances"
"of power" in
our USA
gov't.
( Do not tell me you did not learn that in 6th or even 3rd grade social studies , Check any state regents exam,, it is there. )
Things will take some time.
But Artist & co will defeat Pirates to all reason possible.
On the post: How Monetary Rewards Can Demotivate Creative Works
Re: Re: The majority were motivated principally by money, and were totally amoral about it.
"Moral ", "Immoral" , and "Amoral" .
Clearly no takers..
My point
----------------
It is
Philosophy 101 in college.
Basic English lit in high-school
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Pirate Geeks!
Did you folks not study ANY Social Sciences !?!?
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Yes, star trek utopia - where's the synthathol ?
Mike you gotta get a better system.
AC 1 , AC 2 , AC 3,, etc,,, as you posted elsewhere you have though of it.
OR
The NY Times , does register to post . works well there . Why not here ?
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No, what we need is more IP critics on the mainstream media instead
Mike is trying. Seems no one cares. Copyright will only grow stronger.
you want to make it weaker.
Keep trying
But you will loose.
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So, according to your moral values, Steely Dan should be sued, and prevented from using that phrase ever again.
ME : how or where did i say that ? you know you cannot copyright Idioms, Metaphors , or facts. All i did was point out that "Steely Dan" did not make up the phrase "Pretzel Logic"
Again Karl, REALLY DUMB POST !!
====
p.s
Steely Dan = true musical genius.
I Love & envy them
On the post: How Monetary Rewards Can Demotivate Creative Works
"pirate logic"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=4xe&rlz=1R1GPMD_en___US3 61&q=%22convoluted+logic%22+definition&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
==== ========
P.S. Rich . got your email. Your PhD is NOT in Physics, You claim physics and Einstein Quantum theories was your PhD.
Your Phd is in computer games. Not Physics .
From You :
"Course Leader of MSc/Postgraduate Diploma Computer Games Systems and MSc/Postgraduate Diploma Real-Time Computing Applications. Module Leader of Graphics for Games and Dynamics Modelling and 3D Games Algorithms
On the post: How Monetary Rewards Can Demotivate Creative Works
The majority were motivated principally by money, and were totally amoral about it.
Very true , That is why I quit the on corp Job I ever had,, and only worked in non-profit before and after.
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And Pirates;
Quick define the terms: "Moral ", "Immoral" , and "Amoral" ----- w/o looking them up online.
Quite frankly if you cannot ,, you do not deserve to post here .
You too Mike.
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Re: Relevant article on the changing nature of art
----------------------
The Pirates here are to busy Writing to ever Read anything meaningful , that needs introspection , and self examination.
-----------------------------
Little hint Pirate guys, Research and then form opinions.
Don;t have an opinion , and then research only to support your opinion.
You too Mike. your posts are too long , and your concepts full of holes.
On the post: How Monetary Rewards Can Demotivate Creative Works
Re: Re: Re: A detailed review of the book
--------------------------------------
We need more Pirate slayers to post here !!!
To the tune of "Kill the Rabbit" ( which is from opera)
"Kill the Pirates ,, Kill the Pirates ....... Kill the Piraaaates"
----
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What%27s_Opera,_Doc%3F
What's Opera, Doc? is a 1957 American animated cartoon short in the Merrie Melodies ... and, apparently appalled, sings his signature line "What's up, doc? ...
----------------
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GPMD_e n___US361&q=What%27s%20Opera%2C%20Doc%3F&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=vid:1&sourc e=og&sa=N&tab=wv
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: "How Monetary Rewards Can Demotivate Creative Works"Perhaps Richard doesn't want to identify himself for the same reason you won't identify yourself.
Richard has not yet send me professional level documentation.
Hi links and articles are a sham.
He does not even know the titie of his PhD. thesis , IF he had a resume it would have to be there.
I have said Richard can contact me directly , through email , if he does not want to pot here.
My email is available with 2 two clicks away form profile here .
Other posters have contacted me that way .
Why can't Richard ? BECAUSE he has no PhD. He is a lying fool .
At least Karl , you are honest.
Your a fool, but honest.
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Perhaps Richard doesn't want to identify himself for the same reason you won't identify yourself.
Click my profile here .
From there you can find out more about me ,, than my parents know about me. ,,( they have to read my blogs to keep up !)
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No one learned the concepts of copyright law in elementary school. You're lying.
I never lie.. I is against my religion.
I am a nearly ordained Orthodox Rabbi.
( I got to take the formal "Rabbi" tests . I do not like taking tests, so I am blowing ti off , till I got time to concentrate on it .)
On the post: Dutch Court Says Just Publishing Links To A Movie Is Illegal And Must Be Blocked
Re: Re: Re: in a digital world, actively seeking out illegal downloads and pointing to them has nearly the same net effect as hosting them. think of it another way, it is a simple criminal conspiracy:
On the post: Dutch Court Says Just Publishing Links To A Movie Is Illegal And Must Be Blocked
Re: Re: Re: WTF? That's like locking people up because they tell you which house on the block is the crack house.
you are an idiot.
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Can't wait for filesharing to be leagalized. That's going to be so funny!
Get back to me if i am wrong on that,
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And the rest of the human race doesn't even care about copyright law or know anything about it.
EXACTLY .. That why the Police carry guns and Handcuffs.
Lack of knowledge of the law is no excuse. That is Law everywhere.
But you never learned that is school ,, you freaking Pirate.
You where probably , out braking into people lockers,, or stealing lunch $$ from the lower grade kids
On the post: Dutch Court Says Just Publishing Links To A Movie Is Illegal And Must Be Blocked
Re: Re: it is like a street runner telling you which door to knock to get crack. they are involved in the transaction. I believe that's completely legal, and it is a completely different situation.
------
good time again to take a break ,, and watch a little George Harrison and Monty Python view on this matter,, after the whole My sweet Lord lawsuit stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGbRHxM4X2g
George Harrison's -- "The Pirate Song"
On the post: Dutch Court Says Just Publishing Links To A Movie Is Illegal And Must Be Blocked
Re: Re: Re:Little by little it is going to have to be turned into something more like cable TV
Excellent Post sir !!! A +++
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Re: Re: So long and thank someone for all the fish soup. Re: Re: Re: It's still amazing that any court thinks that just publishing links to something should be illegal,Robots will make artists obsolete.
"Commander Data" from Star Trek would disagree.
He cannot laugh , or whistle. He lacks a soul.
So do you apparently.
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Re: Re: then only artists should comment on the arts.
Yes . if the copying is outside of COPYright laws.
--------------
(why do , bother coming here? Because I hate Pirates stealing peoples work, and techdirt is full of Pirates -- if the earbud fits wear it !! )
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