You know that is a really interesting idea. Tech industry just needs to start writing crazy restrictive license agreements for these industries. Have it so that indy artist can use it for free and the major studios are not allowed to use it at all.
Then need to be very crazy about enforcing it. Make sure if any company uses it that they get sued into oblivion.
Yeah, I remember hearing that. I wish I knew of a way to get 22000% returns on investments. I would be a very rich man now instead of having to go to work each day to make just enough money to eat and pay off student loans.
Suddenly there is a solution. If you encrypt your files and instead of using a password you use a key file on a thumb drive. You can now lock that in a safe that you are not required to open. Of course that would only slow them down while they break into the safe but it is something.
I also wonder though how far you could get by hiding the data they wanted in masses of useless data. Like the key file for your encryption could be a small text file on a thumb drive with millions of text files. Once they have the thumb drive you can honestly tell them they have the key.
Or the really good one is have one password to unlock it and one to destroy the file. They ask you for your password and so you give them one. They enter it and destroy any hope of ever getting it. This also eliminates any chance whatsoever of them getting the real password out of you later. The file is destroyed and no amount of threatening you will get them in.
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Think his point is that it is impossible to actually "force" someone to tell you something. You can be "very persuasive" by water boarding and such. This still cannot "force" them to tell you. The person always has the option to not tell you.
The real problem with this whole "stolen car" analogy is that you can't compare digital items to physical ones. If you really insist on cars though it is something a bit more like this.
You designed a car and are now asking $100,000 for that car even though you have them built by a machine and they cost you $.001 to make each one. Even though it cost you almost nothing to produce this car a good number of people still are buying it.
Now one day someone gets one of your cars and sets up their machine so they can now make the same car. They instead of selling them for $100,000 just give them away for free.
Thing is the guy giving them away does not support the cars he gives away. The paint might not be perfect, the manufacturing in general is a little suspect. In fact the car you get from him might blow up in your face when you crank it.
So now people get to choose, do I risk getting it from a shady source for free or do I go and pay for it.
Well high school kids drinking beer is a fact, you know kind of like piracy. You will never completely get rid of it and when you try all you end up with is a bunch of kids making you look like an ignorant ass.
Ok then, say we accept your crazy figures of how these filthy pirates are just swimming in money. Why is it that Hollywood does not just provide these services themselves? They could cut out the pirates and offer better services.
I would much rather download the movie from the studio. Every single time you pirate something you risk getting a nasty virus on your computer. It is not really all fluffy clouds out on the net. Pirating things is full of dangers and risks. If they offered an official alternative then most would go to it to avoid these risks.
Lets stop and think about this. You say only about 50% under 30 bother to vote. Well did you ever bother to stop and think about why that is? I'm willing to bet you haven't so maybe I can shed some light on this for you. (as I am over your terrible 25s yet under 30)
I in the past did not bother voting because honestly I had no interest in the system. Most of what they were doing did not directly affect me or at least I did not know about the things that affected me. There was no issue I felt overly strong about and so I just let it go. No point in me betting on a race I had no horse in.
NOW these idiots have set their sites on something that I care about. They want to grab hold of the internet and take control of something they cannot hope to understand. Suddenly I have something I care about and I will stand for. So while yes, before I was one of the silent I am not going to be silent any longer.
I am willing to bet there are many more out there like me. We were willing to let things go and stay out of the system. Now though I am looking around and I see more things that I feel strongly about. I am not some "squeaky wheel" that is going to go away now that SOPA is gone.
I put my trust in the "older" generation and now that I have woken up I am sickened by what you have done. I will not be silent any longer. I will scream and yell about the destruction you have caused and maybe just maybe I will be able to get enough to stand with me to fix some of these things.
It is past time for those in power who "are not nerdy enough" to step down and let us "nerds" fix this mess you old farts have made.
It is funny to me that you are so ignorant in all this. What makes you think these "under 25s" don't have anything in this fight? I for one am over 25 and I'm not in this for free stuff. I understand the position of the content industry. I have experience programing and I understand that it is a lot of work to generate this content.
At the same time I am able to step back and look at the entire system and question it. These laws are broken and being abused. There is no reason for copyright to last as long as it does now.
Most of these laws were made while overly focused on something. The result is that when you look at all the laws together you begin to see the over all system is screwed up. Like was pointed out in another post. If some breaks into your home and robs you blind they will likely get a few months and maybe a small fine. Someone downloading music gets tossed in jail and fined millions.
Yeah, I admit that the petition will not actually change the law. My point is more that the existence of the petition shows that people are starting to stand up and try to push back. Sure they are pushing at the wrong place now but if enough people push then Washington will feel it.
The important thing right now is to get people to stand up and do ANYTHING. Sure a lot will do things like this that will have little to no effect but they are at least out there trying. Once enough people are standing they can then be directed to actions that will have an effect.
I just find myself excited to see what I hope is a building momentum to get things fixed.
You know maybe they should have quit while they were ahead. Copyright has been creeping out largly unknoticed. It did not really affect the day to day lives of most people. Well now that people are waking up they can expect to start feeling people push back. For example:
Always great when you can look at a petition and watch the counter roll as you keep refreshing the page. At the rate it is going now they will have the required signatures in a few hours.
Really I think the problem is that power in general is like heroin for politicians. They always want more and more power. SOPA just was on of the ways they saw they could increase that power. Now that there was massive resistance to that bill they will put it away for now and instead look for more power somewhere else. Don't worry though, they will come back to trying to take power over the internet soon enough.
They apparently did not learn anything from the way their industry started. Really they should take a good long look at that history. From what I have read I personally think Edison was a flop as an inventor. What I think history should recognize in him though was he was one hell of a businessman.
Edison very much like the movie and music industry made his living claiming the work of others. He hired people to invent things that he in turn would patent and sell. He was very good at marketing his products. He also like the modern industries would go to great lengths to kill competition.
Edison had various animals electrocuted even recording video of the events just to show how "dangerous" AC power was. So if Edison could not win this battle back then why do they think they have a chance to win now?
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Then need to be very crazy about enforcing it. Make sure if any company uses it that they get sued into oblivion.
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I also wonder though how far you could get by hiding the data they wanted in masses of useless data. Like the key file for your encryption could be a small text file on a thumb drive with millions of text files. Once they have the thumb drive you can honestly tell them they have the key.
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You designed a car and are now asking $100,000 for that car even though you have them built by a machine and they cost you $.001 to make each one. Even though it cost you almost nothing to produce this car a good number of people still are buying it.
Now one day someone gets one of your cars and sets up their machine so they can now make the same car. They instead of selling them for $100,000 just give them away for free.
Thing is the guy giving them away does not support the cars he gives away. The paint might not be perfect, the manufacturing in general is a little suspect. In fact the car you get from him might blow up in your face when you crank it.
So now people get to choose, do I risk getting it from a shady source for free or do I go and pay for it.
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I would much rather download the movie from the studio. Every single time you pirate something you risk getting a nasty virus on your computer. It is not really all fluffy clouds out on the net. Pirating things is full of dangers and risks. If they offered an official alternative then most would go to it to avoid these risks.
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"it's cheaper for cyberlockers since they don't pay royalties."
When really it should be:
It is cheaper for cyberlockers since they don't have to pay off politicians.
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I in the past did not bother voting because honestly I had no interest in the system. Most of what they were doing did not directly affect me or at least I did not know about the things that affected me. There was no issue I felt overly strong about and so I just let it go. No point in me betting on a race I had no horse in.
NOW these idiots have set their sites on something that I care about. They want to grab hold of the internet and take control of something they cannot hope to understand. Suddenly I have something I care about and I will stand for. So while yes, before I was one of the silent I am not going to be silent any longer.
I am willing to bet there are many more out there like me. We were willing to let things go and stay out of the system. Now though I am looking around and I see more things that I feel strongly about. I am not some "squeaky wheel" that is going to go away now that SOPA is gone.
I put my trust in the "older" generation and now that I have woken up I am sickened by what you have done. I will not be silent any longer. I will scream and yell about the destruction you have caused and maybe just maybe I will be able to get enough to stand with me to fix some of these things.
It is past time for those in power who "are not nerdy enough" to step down and let us "nerds" fix this mess you old farts have made.
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At the same time I am able to step back and look at the entire system and question it. These laws are broken and being abused. There is no reason for copyright to last as long as it does now.
Most of these laws were made while overly focused on something. The result is that when you look at all the laws together you begin to see the over all system is screwed up. Like was pointed out in another post. If some breaks into your home and robs you blind they will likely get a few months and maybe a small fine. Someone downloading music gets tossed in jail and fined millions.
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The important thing right now is to get people to stand up and do ANYTHING. Sure a lot will do things like this that will have little to no effect but they are at least out there trying. Once enough people are standing they can then be directed to actions that will have an effect.
I just find myself excited to see what I hope is a building momentum to get things fixed.
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https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/petition/reduce-term-copyrights-maximum-56-years /MnXrd3xG
This could very well turn into a very interesting battle. The general population vs. big media.
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https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/petition/actually-take-these-petitions-seriously-inst ead-just-using-them-excuse-pretend-you-are-listening/grQ9mNkN
The response to that should be good for a few laughs.
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Edison very much like the movie and music industry made his living claiming the work of others. He hired people to invent things that he in turn would patent and sell. He was very good at marketing his products. He also like the modern industries would go to great lengths to kill competition.
Edison had various animals electrocuted even recording video of the events just to show how "dangerous" AC power was. So if Edison could not win this battle back then why do they think they have a chance to win now?
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