The companies that want less copyright are too convinced of the maximalist point of view, even if it hurts their bottom line.
If Pandora, Netflix, Google, etc were to rise up against Hollywood, it would be a very tenable relation of small businesses with a large number of conflicts in hoping to minimize Hollywood's influence.
I'd consider the copyright position to be a Game of Thrones. There's plenty of people jockeying for position, and everyone is hoping not to be on the low end of the totem pole.
The fox guarding the henhouse. But while focused on that, why ignore the immense pressie that can come from ground movements to cause the government to act differently?
The US won't get those broadband capabilities until the monopoly rents of copyright infringement, monopolization of infrastructure, and this push for microtransactions on cable bills is stopped and people push for more competition.
Breaking up the Comcast/TWC and other big monopolies could help, but so can breaking up other large companies that continue to poison the well of democracy for their own selfish agendas.
This is truly ridiculous...
Why should I believe that these companies need more money when they can't even give what they promised in the first place?
It really doesn't matter about word technicalities here...
"legitimate newsgathering" - is protected by the 1st Amendment
"illegitimate" newsgathering - is protected by the 1st Amendment
The plan is supposed to be that people have a right to talk about things that affect them in a free society.
That bargain is over with and the people that made that commitment long gone. We're basically at the whip's end when so many people have ignored the lessons of what the 1st Amendment entails.
If you can't protect someone's freedom to talk, their speech, it's not free. It comes at a cost. For those that care to report to the public, they have to know that they aren't being deceived. This law changes that notion. It moves to make the only speech, that of the government and its cronies.
That is propaganda when people can't look at things objectively. Obviously, this can't be sustained. Love or hate the President, but this just seems like a very rough situation only going to get worse.
Communism is a classless, stateless society. Meaning you don't have a rich or poor class.
Stalinist Russia required a strong state which was akin to FDR's New Deal liberalism. Further, you didn't give the workers their revolution in Russia since they weren't in charge of the businesses, but the government officials were. That's actually state capitalism, which again is the same as FDR's New Deal.
What Marx meant when he discussed communism was that you had to go through a transitional phase which he termed "Socialism", whereby the worker class owned the means of production. After such a transition, you have Communism, which is classless and stateless.
Basically, he wants a more democratic form of governance than what is available through capitalism, which is why he was such a critic of the capitalist classes. Such works being taken away from the public domain only spur more people to find reasons to take away capitalism and begin finding alternatives to it.
Jon still has a point that copyright isn't communist.
Having publishers use copyright to create a new market and take things out of reach even though Marx spoke out against such functions of capitalism point out the irony of the situation, but communism is all about a classless, stateless society, meaning no way for a government to impose monopoly rents for publishers.
But that's the problem. Even if the pirates don't care, the laws continue to look into serving the interests of the largest "shareholders" of copyright instead of the public.
It doesn't matter if the content is not legally available.
It doesn't matter if smaller publishers are forced to comply with bogus copyright needs.
It doesn't matter if the public doesn't want stronger copyright laws.
As far as the Supreme Court is concerned, they'll support these issues for the legacy industries through thick and thin.
A prime example is the Grokster ruling which added laws outside of what Congress intended. Inducement was meant to force people into the older business models of the RIAA before the internet matured.
It didn't work at all in stopping the tide of new technology.
Now you have the destruction of cloud technology if the cord isn't long enough and the Supreme Court has some dangerous precedents on these issues.
We can't let the courts decide this. We actually need to show Congress that this is not what we want. If it gets to the Supreme Court, we've lost the battle.
Just a thought, but this is Hollywood alumni passing around a copy of a script via a private torrent network that showed how popular a property was. Instead of creating a new market for the work, Hollywood claimed copyright and lost goodwill and brand loyalty for an expensive lawsuit which hasnot given them any return on investment.
The lesson here: copyright does nothing in creating new works, stifles innovation, and anyone using it wants to promote censorship to control what others can do or say for nothing more than a sense of entitlement.
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Dammit!
184,000 people is more than the people in Guam.
All we have to do is protect Guam from being a hole for terrorism and we win.
What a waste of 10 years!
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Who paid them off?
Why go into this unless there was a benefit for them?
The only thing that the DoJ seems to protect are large banks and I'm aware that some of the big banks have investments in metals and commodities.
Could this be a favor for other corporations?
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Re: Re: Re: Re: How do we fix it?
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Re: Re: Silly Humans...
The companies that want less copyright are too convinced of the maximalist point of view, even if it hurts their bottom line.
If Pandora, Netflix, Google, etc were to rise up against Hollywood, it would be a very tenable relation of small businesses with a large number of conflicts in hoping to minimize Hollywood's influence.
I'd consider the copyright position to be a Game of Thrones. There's plenty of people jockeying for position, and everyone is hoping not to be on the low end of the totem pole.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Oh look, he's back...
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Re: Re: How do we fix it?
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Re: Re: Oh look, he's back...
Breaking up the Comcast/TWC and other big monopolies could help, but so can breaking up other large companies that continue to poison the well of democracy for their own selfish agendas.
This is truly ridiculous...
Why should I believe that these companies need more money when they can't even give what they promised in the first place?
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... Really?
Never go full retard...
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Really odd...
"legitimate newsgathering" - is protected by the 1st Amendment
"illegitimate" newsgathering - is protected by the 1st Amendment
The plan is supposed to be that people have a right to talk about things that affect them in a free society.
That bargain is over with and the people that made that commitment long gone. We're basically at the whip's end when so many people have ignored the lessons of what the 1st Amendment entails.
If you can't protect someone's freedom to talk, their speech, it's not free. It comes at a cost. For those that care to report to the public, they have to know that they aren't being deceived. This law changes that notion. It moves to make the only speech, that of the government and its cronies.
That is propaganda when people can't look at things objectively. Obviously, this can't be sustained. Love or hate the President, but this just seems like a very rough situation only going to get worse.
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Re: This can't POSSIBLY backfire at all.
There might be some new alliances formed ousting her from her position in the future.
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Re: Re: A "great" idea to end movie piracy
Now I'm interested...
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But Mike...
That old lady had it coming!
On the post: 'Radical' Publisher Claims Copyright On Free Collection Of Marx And Engels Works; Orders Them Taken Down
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Delicious, delicious irony...
You just answered your own question.
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Re: Credit Unions?
On the post: 'Radical' Publisher Claims Copyright On Free Collection Of Marx And Engels Works; Orders Them Taken Down
Re: Re: Re: Re: Delicious, delicious irony...
Communism is a classless, stateless society. Meaning you don't have a rich or poor class.
Stalinist Russia required a strong state which was akin to FDR's New Deal liberalism. Further, you didn't give the workers their revolution in Russia since they weren't in charge of the businesses, but the government officials were. That's actually state capitalism, which again is the same as FDR's New Deal.
What Marx meant when he discussed communism was that you had to go through a transitional phase which he termed "Socialism", whereby the worker class owned the means of production. After such a transition, you have Communism, which is classless and stateless.
Basically, he wants a more democratic form of governance than what is available through capitalism, which is why he was such a critic of the capitalist classes. Such works being taken away from the public domain only spur more people to find reasons to take away capitalism and begin finding alternatives to it.
On the post: 'Radical' Publisher Claims Copyright On Free Collection Of Marx And Engels Works; Orders Them Taken Down
Re: Re: Delicious, delicious irony...
But that said, it does look like the quickest way people have routed around this is to spread the works on the Pirate Bay.
Now that's pretty communist...
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Re: Re: Copyrights are communist?!
Having publishers use copyright to create a new market and take things out of reach even though Marx spoke out against such functions of capitalism point out the irony of the situation, but communism is all about a classless, stateless society, meaning no way for a government to impose monopoly rents for publishers.
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It doesn't matter if the content is not legally available.
It doesn't matter if smaller publishers are forced to comply with bogus copyright needs.
It doesn't matter if the public doesn't want stronger copyright laws.
As far as the Supreme Court is concerned, they'll support these issues for the legacy industries through thick and thin.
A prime example is the Grokster ruling which added laws outside of what Congress intended. Inducement was meant to force people into the older business models of the RIAA before the internet matured.
It didn't work at all in stopping the tide of new technology.
Now you have the destruction of cloud technology if the cord isn't long enough and the Supreme Court has some dangerous precedents on these issues.
We can't let the courts decide this. We actually need to show Congress that this is not what we want. If it gets to the Supreme Court, we've lost the battle.
Just my take on the situation.
On the post: Quentin Tarantino Loses Big In Trying To Paint Gawker As A Copyright Infringer
So Hollywood lost on piracy again...
The lesson here: copyright does nothing in creating new works, stifles innovation, and anyone using it wants to promote censorship to control what others can do or say for nothing more than a sense of entitlement.
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