Google Goes Big With Its SOPA/PIPA Protests; Blacks Out Logo
from the but-no-calls? dept
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They did a very effective job. Very effective. Hopefully this will awake the electorate as to how powerful they really are- these people that spy on them.
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Your tin foil is showing again. Maybe you should wear another hat to cover it up?
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I, for one, am glad that America's mental healthcare is working so well that delusional paranoids are able to construct such clear sentences.
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This is NOT an anit-piracy bill. It will do very little to slow, much less stop piracy. What it will do is open up the internet to massive abuse, anti-competitive practices, and increased risk for hacking and spam.
The opposition is NOT astroturfing, much less being bankrolled by Google. If there is any astroturfing going on, it's is by the entertainment industry and Congress. The only people I've talked to/heard from who express any sort of support for these bill are high powered corporate executives, business moguls, entrenched Congreemen and there support staffs, well paid lobbyists, and a handful of well paid content creators who like their secure incomes.
I've seen, spoken to, or heard from hundred of content creators themselves who are all pretty much opposed to these bills and who have nothing to do with Google or piracy.
In fact the only sense of entitlement I've seen from people, are, well, the people supporting these bills.
As frustrating as you people can be most of the time, I do genuinely appreciate you people commenting. IT allows me to show your actual words to people when we are discussing these matters and sometimes makes it much easier to convert them to our point of view.
So basically I say keep up the good work. You are doing more to help kill the entertainment industry with your lies, bullying tactics, and nonsense than I could do by myself.
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You socialists don't get it, these works are created because copywrite protection allows the producers to make money by making it illegal to copy and/or redistribute the content. Without copyright protection you would be left with amatuers creating amatuer content. Some of it might be entertaining but a lot of it is only interesting to the person that created it.
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It would be much more productive!
"Taking in the sights and sounds of nature appears to be especially beneficial for our minds, researchers say."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904199404576538260326965724.html
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First of all, it's "copyright." A "copywriter" is one who writes copy (e.g. for newspapers). It's going to be hard for people to take you seriously if you can't even spell what you're talking about.
Second of all, copyright is a state-enforced monopoly. It's more than ironic that you call its opponents "socialists."
Third of all, you don't need copyright to create movies, television shows, books, music, games, etc. For example, plenty of publishing companies make money by selling editions of public domain works; orchestras make money by performing public domain music; and so forth. Valve Software made over a billion dollars last year, not by "making it illegal to copy and/or redistribute the content," but by providing a service that added value the pirates' couldn't.
Fourth, "amatuers creating amatuer content" is exactly how innovative artists create. Take the music industry: you would never get signed to a label without already having a sizable following that you developed without the label's help. The major labels have not created one single genre of music; all of them were created by amateurs, then later signed and co-opted by the labels.
On the other hand, I am not actually arguing against all copyright protections. But the laws we have right now go way too far, and SOPA/PROTECT IP would only make matters worse.
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Because I know that Blizzard supports SOPA
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Seriously! WTF? I know that Activision was on that original letter before the bills came out, but did the actually come out in support or did they bail when they saw how Fu%$^# up this legislation is? {Citation Please}
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Given that this is the same company that sued a guy for bots, gets a default judgement of $88 million against a person, and tries to take away anonymity with a sledgehammer, it's a pretty safe bet that they will support SOPA albeit quietly right now unless they want their fans to revolt against them.
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Blizzard don't support SOPA/PIPA & Google's stance
I'm not Blizzard's biggest fan for many reasons, but that list was taken from a letter asking for some form of copy protection legislation last year, they've never come out in open support of SOPA/PIPA and aren't members of the ESA (of course they haven't openly come out against it either but fair's fair).
@Nuge
There's a difference between a political message and something that'll actually break the fundamental foundations of the internet. Sure Google have a financial stake in this but this isn't a left/right issue, it's people who don't understand the internet (allegedly funded to protect questionable corporate interests) essentially trying to break it due to their ignorance (and greed depending how much you think politicians have been bought by companies).
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Good idea: talking to your officials at their office (insert picture of senator at their work office while talking to them).
Bad idea: talking to upper officials at their office (insert picture of random guy sneaking into their home office through window to talk to them).
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The /ncr bit means no redirection to your own country site.
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Ultimately, though, I don't need to see this, the very fact that I'm here commenting indicates that I'm well aware of SOPA/PIPA, and I can see why Google went ahead and set up a geoIP filter, there are a fair number of people who live around here that would probably be irked by...I don't know how to say this, let's go with proselytizing, even though that's not really accurate...about a US law in foreign countries.
And yes, I'm very well aware that the law would affect me even though I don't live in or connect from the US, and a few of the locals I know would probably be aware of that too, but they can't really do anything about it, so why bother them?
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Please don't censor the web!
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Wake up the world to these **AAs' and their anti-social policies.
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Then again, those who are aware of noscript and your method of circumventing the blockout are probably the somewhat more tech savvy crowd that's already aware of these bills.
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Let your incarceration and sodomization be a lesson to all those who steal from hard working mega corporations!
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Wikipedia blacked out??
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So you have to turn on javascript in order to see any difference? Big deal! I heard that the Metropolitan Museum of Art is closed today in support of the SOPA protest: by which they mean they're offering blindfolds to everyone who comes in.
That isn't a blackout, it's a wimpout.
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Don't you have anything better to do than whine?
Most people have JS turned on by default. You don't, apparently, so whoopee for you. This clearly isn't a move aimed at people like you and me who already know how to operate the internet properly, it's a move aimed at getting widespread awareness of what SOPA is and what its implications may be for the average person. That's why the site isn't shut down completely - it's meant to annoy people.
In your case, it's had its effect without you even seeing it, so carry on.
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Rather there are entire channels that exist of nothing but political messages. These are what pass for entertainment by those so serious that they demand actual consequence to their reality tv, not fake marriage Kardashian stuff.
Sorry, "Mr. Romney". This is not going to be discussed in quiet rooms any longer. It might get messy. But we're done with hearing about how horrible it is when a bunch of people get together and say "enough".
You follow?
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1) They don't care about the political posturing and just want their show, or
2) They agree with whatever position is being posited and are outraged that congress would do such a thing.
I suspect there will be lots of media industry shills outraged for reason number 1 above. I also suspect that the number of people outraged at Google for reason number 1 above is far below the number of people outraged at having to watch FBI warnings and save-the-gaffer anti-piracy rants at the beginning of DVDs and theater showings. Which means more people are outraged at the MPAA's posturing than will be outraged at Google's posturing.
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Is anyone but me offended that an essential facility like Google is able to tout its political stance on laws relating to its central business model, and look like it is interested in the public?
Dude. Seriously. Don't make me laugh. YOU are the folks going around pretending that this law -- which is solely designed to prop up your failing business models -- is "in the public interest." It's incredibly slimy to pretend that an actual interest in preserving the internet as we know it is not in the public interest.
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I had no idea I was in the presence of royalty. A member of creative america, everyone!
Lord Nuge, what portion of the culture have they promised you for your 'work'?
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No fair, man!
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Makes me sad that you've aligned yourself with people who view you as disposable rather than with people who want to respect creative output.
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You think Google's interest in fighting SOPA and PIPA is in the public interest, and not exclusively supportive of its business model? Dude, please. You are being coopted into supporting the biggest land grab there is by corporate interests who pretend to support the public interest. Take more soma.
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I can go on. This nation is plagued with government established monopolies and oligopolies (ie: taxi cab monopolies). Google is not one of them (at least not yet).
The whole point of opposing this bill is to keep an eye on the monopolies and oligopolies arising. This bill is exactly intended to provide for the existing government established monopolists the continued govt established monopoly power that they have wrongfully enjoyed for so many years. It's despicable and I am indeed keeping an eye on it.
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I see. Still no admission that you're paid by the MPAA to run a bogus astroturfing group, huh?
As for Google, it's worth pointing out that, for as much as your buddies in the MPAA have insisted on blaming this entire situation on Google, Google has had nothing to do with any of this, and showed up late to the game after the wider internet community chose to take these steps.
Those folks have no "corporate interests."
Pretending this protest is about corporate interests is pure wishful thinking on your part.
As to whether or not Google's own participation is because of its business model, I don't know -- and neither do you. But from what I've seen of Google over the years, I would find it hard to believe. This is the same company that took a stand on China to stop censorship there -- despite the fact that it lost a ton of money doing so.
The folks who run Google have shown repeatedly that they're principled on censorship issues.
The folks who pay your salary... not so much.
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hahahahahahahahahaha
I love this new approach of yours- "I'm gonna lie twice as much as usual, then people will be twice as likely to believe me... right?"
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That makes him a more acceptable shill.
A 3/10 instead of this idiots 1/10.
Even shills should live by some standard.
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Yes, because up until then, all those Chinese citizens that make 31 cents an hour were really padding the coffers over there at Google.
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China just hit 500,000,000 total internet users, and since ads are paid for by companies that have money, that is more people ad clicking then there is population in the US.
Now, want to come over? I live here....
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You're such a silly liar, Masnick. It's endlessly amusing.
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Try using Versed, instead (ooh, I rhymed, go me). It's a drug which, among other things, induces anterograde amnesia, thus suggesting that those that disagree with you are deliberately ignoring the lessons learned from history...
Wait...Damn...your position is that there's no past history for a company using it's massive influence on the public to influence politics, that the "new media" is completely different from the "old media".
Never mind, feel free to keep using Soma...although, it still helps with my back-aches, could you at least pick on Ambien, instead?
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"If there’s one thing that SOPA proponents like myself and SOPA opponents can agree on, it’s that PROTECT-IP and the Stop Online Piracy Act have little to do with protecting intellectual property and stopping online piracy.
After all, those who choose to steal creative works like the “I Have a Dream” speech from artists like Martin Luther King Jr. can already be sued and prosecuted under existing United States copyright laws. IP thieves living overseas can already be extradited to face justice in our federal courts. And the Department of Homeland Security can already arbitrarily seize domain names that fit its arbitrary standard of violating national something-or-other."
http://74.50.110.120/Articles/Support-The-Daily-WTF-in-Supporting-the-Support- SOPA-Movement.aspx
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You mean how the government-industrial complex keeps on stealing from the public domain through retroactive copy protection extensions?
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So if you're not essential, you can tout your political stance on laws, then? That what you're sayiing? Like the RIAA/MPAA?
So if you're not essential, what do we need you for?
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You mean like, the Internet?
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Google can do it because if people don't like it they have other options like Bing, Yahoo, DuckDuckGo, YaCy just to name a few.
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Are you actually serious?
You promote SOPA, call google an "essential" facility that shouldn't filter or comment on anything, and you call it bias that they encourage people to oppose incredibly idiotic legislation, when your biggest issue with google is that they won't bias results to please you.
It must really suck to be you.
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It's kind of like the electric company - a regulated monopoly - continuing to supply electricity to an anti-nuclear group while mailing pro-nuclear informational materials to every customer with every electric bill. Abuse of monopoly would be cutting off the anti-nuclear group's electricity in reprisal for their speech.
Google has a right to freedom of speech. It can speak a little more loudly than the Chamber of Commerce/RIAA/MPAA, but if monetary contributions are speech - as per Citizens United - that decision the Chamber of Commerce so vigorously fought for - surely non-monetary advocacy for or against a law is speech, too.
As such, Google isn't excluding anyone.
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Assuming the affirmative, haven't they also ignored that obligation to remain unbiased, apolitical, and inclusive?
Assuming yes again, it's plainly hypocritical to chastise Google for voicing its stance on these proposed bills, wouldn't you say? It amounts to "do as we say, not as we do." Inconsistencies like this do little to advance your goal, and I'd argue it reveals Big Content's not-so-subtle strategy of winning passage via creating strawmen, spreading misleading information, etc.
Aside from all that, I'll now assume you don't characterize the Big Content SOPA/PIPA supporters as "essential facilities." Now you'd be saying that because these groups are less ubiquitous than Google, this somehow makes their political support of the measures more worthy of public approval?
Help us out here.
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Is 14 minutes long!
Plus 1 minute of warnings in 3 languages.
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"If you are ripping this DVD in an English-speaking country, press 1.
Si va a copiar el DVD en un país de habla española, pulse dos..."
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Well, the RIAA/MPAA/IFPI/BREIN/ETC has risen to the status of essential facility in the anti-piracy world, yet we allow it to foist their views on their users through their website, with no comment option. Rage against Google all you want, somehow the MPAA is allowed to go, "Hey, lads, remember those figures we had? They were inflated by 300%, but all's still good eh?"
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Google receives none of its market power from the government, unlike those who get their information distributed through broadcasting and cableco. Google competes in a free market and there are alternative search engines. You can even create your own. Just because others aren't as successful doesn't mean that Google doesn't deserve free speech rights. Why should we punish the successful (ie: Google) and reward the failures (IE: govt established cableco and broadcasting monopolists who's only success is due to their govt established monopoly positions, the RIAA/MPAA, etc...).
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Re: “political stance”
If politics is not the business of Google, of Facebook, of the TV networks and every other journalistic organization, of Techdirt, of Wikipedia, of Mom & Pop’s Corner Store Inc (est 1923), of you, of me, of your little old grandmother, of every single person whose lives are going to be affected by these crazy rules, then who the hell’s business is it exactly?
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No. I am more outraged that corporations get to write laws claiming it is to save jobs.
Are jobs going to India and China because there is no infringement there?
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That's different than the government established mainstream media (those that benefit from govt established broadcasting and cableco monopolies) how exactly?
It's OK for big corporations to spend what they want on political ads, it's considered free speech. but the moment someone says something protesting govt established monopolists, it's somehow an abuse.
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Hey Nuge, look in the mirror!
How about the pathetic MPAA/RIAA rise up and create a business model that doesn't require the entire f-ing internet be their police force?
Rise up and get a job, attract fans, make money. No other jobs on the planet get to sit back and enjoy income in perpetuity for a job done long ago.
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So, as an American company with foreign websites/subsidiaries......
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You dolts are really out of ammo, aren't you?
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Just curious. Looking for a career change. Hedging my bets.
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It's one of the reasons why Alzheimer's research is so slow; the only people allowed to donate funds or do the research are Alzheimer's patients, and they keep forgetting what it is they're doing anyway.
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What are you, a socialist?
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At least not in version 1.0.
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Shoot, his arguments even make a little sense if you are completely ignorant of what is going on in the world today.
Although he is a shill, I would go so far as to say he is the grade A shill.
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Shoot, his arguments even make a little sense if you are completely ignorant of what is going on in the world today.
Although he is a shill, I would go so far as to say he is the grade A shill.
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Actually see how badly written laws get abused left and right, before making a blanket statement like that.
Either that, or shut up and go back to your basement.
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SOPA and PIPA are draconian measures for a government and industry dictatorship over free expression and informal commerce.
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It is to cover their eye that got poked out by a hook.
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Smart money knows that wind power is what doesn't prevent people from buying illegal prescription drugs.
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My iPhone irritated me today by not recognising 'dicl' as 'dick'. For one, I know several people who use that as a diminutive of Richard. I could have been addressing them, and please capitalise the first letter of their name. For two, I swear quite often. I expect that my dear friend iPhone, with me at all hours, would know that.
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Lamar Smith: Making New Zealand Illegal Since 2012
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The /ncr bit means no redirection.
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Internet On Strike - All Out!
So is my own website now... www.cardman.com
UK Trader now losing sales all today but I am only happy to have our freedom tomorrow.
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You're right. I'm surprised I didn't hear about this, it's at least as big as the Reddit blackout.
Good for them.
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Good Lord. I am just waking up, and checking some of the links like I do when I'm bored. And in all seriousness, half of the sites I like are going dark today.
The latest site MS Paint Adventures:
http://www.mspaintadventures.com
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technology news, latest technology news
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Are we missing something?
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You Guys Don't Get It
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After all, given that the facts are not on their side, they lose all their arguments, but money doesn't care if you have a bad argument, it's neutral and not at all biased like google and reality.
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another approach
He has a direct personal stake in the issue and put his signature on his position.
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Pro-tip to other sites blacking out today though...don't link to Wikipedia or Reddit when explaining why....
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I signed the petition
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The "Industry"
This group is trying to push open-ended laws that can shut down their opposition based solely on accusations, with little or no recourse.
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Not for Canada
Very disappointing!
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Re: Not for Canada
What is actually disappointing is that apparently this bold move by Google is only visible in the US. If you hit it from a non US IP, you don't see it.
I feel that is a cop-out on Google's part.
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Here lies the truth about SOPA/PIPA that even TechDirt has yet to report: what MPAA, RIAA, and Hollywood execs do not want you to see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzS5rSvZXe8
The truth behind why these big companies responsible for SOPA and PIPA are also responsible for piracy itself is far more insidious than even their outmoded business model.
Hint: can you say, do as I say so I can crush you under heel?
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Click the link and open the .pdf file(click on image in link).
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Now is someone gonna post a link to a full-size .png, .gif, or .jpg?
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I'm not going to a US court to find out.
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What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with Techdirt, Anonymous Coward?
What does your amusement have to do with Techdirt, Anonymous Coward?
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