An Infographic Showing Just How Frequently Hollywood Has Cried Wolf About 'Piracy'
from the sky-is-falling,-the-sky-is-falling dept
A few folks have sent over this excellent infographic about the frequency with which Hollywood insists every new technology will destroy the movie business. It's based on the list that Steve Blank put together of Hollywood being totally wrong on lots of things:
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Filed Under: crying wolf, history, hollywood, infringement, piracy, sopa
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I guess what I'm saying is: get over it.
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Pure lie. These people are sociopaths.
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Pure Lie.
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I read a story just last night about an author who invites all and sundry to pirate his book, and guess what? He's sold 12 million copies. Why? The piracy gave his book lots of exposure. Had he kept it all to himself and sued every person who made his book available on the Web guess how many he would have sold? Probably zero, or very few.
Get over it!!! Suing your customers is not going to bring people in breaking your doors down to buy your product. It's only going to make them mad and drive them away.
Got it?
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Yes, SOPA supporters ARE sociopaths! ;-)
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How is this a lie?
SOPA, as written, did allow an easy method for corporations to take down websites without traditional due process.
What the hell are they lying about?
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You DO know how to scroll, don't you, boy?
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Edward Tufte this guy ain't.
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Muddled Infographic
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No, it really doesn't. Your snark doesn't work at all on AC 2 (Anonymous Coward, Jan 27th, 2012 @ 10:50am). AC 2 made a valid, if brief, observation on the usability and usefulness of the infographic, one which you haven't rebutted in any way with your snark.
Are you really going to claim the infographic is easy to follow, or summarizes the issue at a glance? Because you'll have a really hard time doing that since the graphic is an attractive but muddled mishmash with no flow and no clear message sent by a quick scan. It looks like someone barfed orange clip art on the screen. The infographic makes the information it summarizes *harder* to read and understand than if it were just well formatted text--which is the opposite of what an infographic is supposed to do. Infographics are supposed to make information easier to understand through visualizations. This infographic fails utterly to do that.
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Try scrolling the enlarged piece, boy.
Makes a great poster, btw.
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My critique was purely aesthetic.
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It's Me. I'm the Moron from the OP
I forgot my question mark, fulfilling the expectations both of being a moron and including an obvious error in a post about not being a moron.
Here is the post where I blame you, the viewer, for the misunderstandings caused by my first post and the errors in my second.
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If Hellywood would learn to work with new stuff instead of fighting it, suing people back to the stone age, making wild and unsubstantiated claims it's going to put them out of business and lying about and grossly inflating loss claims, it would greatly benefit everyone and save all of us a lot of grief.
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your ass cheeks are calling, please plant your head back between them so we don't have to listen to your spew.
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Please show which information on the piece is incorrect, boy.
Otherwise, YOU are intellectually-dishonest, kid.
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Should also add the music industry
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Why is clear that they cried wolf?
It's like saying that the world has been crying wolf about drunk driving because there's been no explosion of alcohol-related crashes. Wrong. It's because we took strong measures and put punishments in place.
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ROFLcopter!!
Are you serious?
Believe it or not, every time a "free port" is established--one which pretty much ignores tariffs & treaties & imaginary property--it flourishes. Every industry which roots there grows like a rampant weed. And yes, that includes media industries.
So, in short, "NO". There are numerous historical proofs that your assertion is most provably false.
(respect)
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The typical example is a port like Hong Kong, which flourished because it kept government costs low. Did movie making flourish there? Did it become Hollywood west? Was there a burgeoning publishing business? No. They were happy just to pirate western sources and so no locals bothered to go into the business.
The industries that flourished there were the ones that were protected by the rule of law. The design work, the content creation work, and the story making work were not protected and so they didn't flourish.
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Seriously? Don't make me go Bruce Lee on you.
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Did it become Hollywood west? Of course not, it didn't have the marketing power. What does that have to do with flourishing creativity? Why does it need to be 'Hollywood west'? What's so great about Hollywood? Personally I think the average standard of living across this continent would be significantly higher without it.
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It takes 15 minutes to open a business in Hong Kong, business suing business is practically anathema for the courts there, they don't care and don't give a fuck, they are primarily concerned with taxes only if you pay your taxes you can pretty much do anything you want and that includes stealing all the ideas from your competitors.
Hong Kong Business Leaders: Fashion, Supermarket Proprietor Anthony Keung
Apps you will never see in the US ever!
Hong Kong IT Entrepreneurs iMusicTech and ESL on Road to Success
When there is no protections for old BS business people make it big.
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Starting from Scratch
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You mean like in China where it's flourishing despite all the piracy they have there?
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Competing for market share is not for the lazy though.
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Piracy is like drunk driving? Does that count as a car metaphor?
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And that ended. The hardware industry added copy protection tabs and ensured that the copies degraded. Voila. It was enough of a compromise for the industry to flourish.
The industry got everything it wanted.
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In any case please provide the technical specification number where that is implemented in any VCR in the 70's, 80's or 90's.
Good luck trying to find it.
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That argument could almost be construed as intelligent - if you squint really, really hard and smack your head on brick wall a few times in order to forget the simple fact that Hollywood was founded in California in order to avoid paying Thomas Edison fees for his intellectual property rights (patents) on the movie-making process.
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So, Hollywood is composed of the descendants of pirates?
Quick, arrest them!
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"Have a nice bag of money and free airtime on TV!"
"Uhh, what were we doing here again, boys?"
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When US politicians and diplomats were questioned on it, they avoided the issue completely.
It was in this manner that the US publishing industry got it's start, sort of like Hollydud got it's start later.
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"If we passed no laws and piracy never took hold" That statement...is actually correct, but not in the way you mean it. Piracy, or copyright infringement, is what happens when someone breaks the law. If there were no laws, there would be no piracy, because how can you break a law that doesn't exist?
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Just had a quick question about your argument... If you could just point out a single instance where copyright law ever had any impact whatsoever on piracy I'd really appreciate it. It seems like there are a lot of people here who read your comment and think it was the product of willful ignorance or insanity (you are still taking your meds, right?), and I think it's important to show everyone the credible research you found that backs up the assertion.
Also, Google has recently been trying to solve the drunk driving problem with cars that drive themselves. Soon our pretend autopilots that get us home from the bar will be real! Via la vodka! Tell the mister we all said hello, and dog bless you.
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Now you'll probably blather on about how the pirates just moved to a different site or created deeper, more complicated encryption schemes. But that's not the point of the enforcement. It's enough to make the pirated copies harder to find and that raises the cost of doing business as a pirate-- and believe me, it's a Big Business.
We don't give up on enforcing murder laws because the murder rate doesn't go to absolute zero. We don't give up on enforcing parking laws because people still get tickets.
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You see piracy is a scary story with one purpose, to make others believe that someone needs protection.
The fact of the mater is if piracy hurt so much, free TV should have decimated the industry already, free radio should have sunken labels a long time ago, but incredibly that is not what happens is it?
Even without zero protections markets grow and people get rich in other places, if they can do elsewhere why can't people in a country that prides itself of being so good at solving problems can't?
Truth be told the one thing holding America back right now is the power of certain monopolies in stopping the real entrepreneurs from rising and getting their chance.
This BS IP crap is the reason that companies can outsource jobs without suffering the consequences of doing so, because nobody else can enter the market or copy anything and take market share from some idiot that decides that labor is to expensive and we can reduce costs using labor offshore and maximize profits without actually reducing costs, it is also chilling innovation since people who are not stupid can see the legal pitfalls increasing in number and not be willing to risk everything, it is getting harder to succeed in America not easier, while in other countries mainly in Asia they are doing exactly the opposite and cashing in big time.
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Clarification
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This is stupid, not least of which because MM means 2000 in Roman numerals, but it's still used frequently in finance.
http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/dictM.html
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Clubbing people over the head with history and them damning them to repeat it seems like a truly stupid way to do thing. But I guess it gets you an audience, and the advertisers like it.
Too bad nobody goes to Step 2.
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Did you just say that teaching people not to repeat the mistakes of the past is a bad thing done solely to generate advertising revenues?
I don't even know how to properly respond to this level of fail. /speechless
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Mike Masnick: Making it up as he goes.
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(you know you're dumb when you've been schooled by Dr. Fucking Phil)
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What Mike is proposing is that because they MIGHT do something in the future, let's stop them now. It's the fucking thought police.
How can you be so fucking stupid and arrogant?
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They have done the same thing with the same reaction MULTIPLE times in the past. It is time for everyone else to stop listening to the sky is falling complaints of an industry that makes a habit of panic first, embrace second, make more money third, fourth make new laws to extract more money.
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They’ve done it over and over and over. Not once. Not twice. But repeatedly. At some point, you have to stop saying “let’s keep on giving them the benefit of the doubt”, and remember Einstein’s definition of insanity: doing the same thing repeatedly, while hoping against hope that, this time, the outcome will be different from what it has been every single other time.
You want to join the insane ones? Your choice.
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Look at it this way: you think I'm an idiot, because of what I've said in the past. You anticipate me saying more things that you consider idiotic in the future. Does that make you the fucking thought police? By your logic, apparently it does.
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What's good for the goose...
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Another info graphic
http://www.copyhype.com/cdtsopalist/index.html
or just a graphic:
http://www.copyhype.com/cdtsopalist/sopa_opponents.png
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Piracy would not be the problem they (and I mean they) claim it to be if a better route was made available for consumers. Take music and the old days of Napster, Ipods came out and the recording industry found that by letting people purchase individual songs not just a CD, that their profits rose. That is a free trade market that balanced itself out.
Here is a suggestion, the MPAA can take all the money they spend in Congress every year and help pay down the national debt or do something useful with it. This is all just my opinion though and may have no real basis in reality…
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