Polish Politicians Don Guy Fawkes/Anonymous Masks To Protest ACTA Signing
from the isn't-that-infringing? dept
There's been lots of talk today about how various EU governments are agreeing to sign ACTA (which still needs to be ratified by the EU Parliament). It's gotten the most attention in Poland, where there were mass protests -- but the government there still signed. Of course, not everyone in the Polish government agreed. Amazingly, officials from the Palikot's Movement held up the famed Guy Fawkes/Anonymous masks in Parliament to protest the vote:Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Because you know in the back of their minds they really really want to.
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Awesome
The nature of this photo has been called into doubt though when some claim that these are not people who oppose ACTA but ones who only want the popularity.
I don't really care on that answer when it will make much anti-ACTA news whatever their true intentions.
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To be fair, it's not necessarily going to stay signed. The opposition party is demanding a referendum, which could seriously undermine the movement. A contact in Poland says that the earlier comments about the government "not submitting to blackmail" are not being well-received by the public, and that it's just the majority's attempt to save face. Poland still has a fighting chance.
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Go figure. Who could possibly have thought that calling it "blackmail" when the public tries to participate in the political process and voice their concerns would be well received?
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Why "counterfeit" it? Surely every man sitting there can afford original one, righ?
Wherever is demand for things that aren't accessible one will always find alternative...
It's only copyright holder fault that it did not meet the need...
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:-P
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Even the original writing of "V for Vendetta" had no mask when it is purely a creation of the movie. Most interestingly this prop is protected by the law and when you buy the original your money goes to the "big media" we hate.
Then let us not forget this is the usual Hollywood dropping turds on foreign culture and tradition. One Guy Fawkes was the terrorist of the day, wanting to replace the Monarchy, and his death has been celebrated for over 400 years.
This would be like if we British made a character representing Osama Bin Laden in a Mickey Mouse mask and then celebrating the 9/11 destruction of the twin towers as victory over the bad Bush Government! Insane or what?
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http://www.amazon.com/V-Vendetta-Alan-Moore/dp/1401207928/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid =1327621023&sr=1-1
The mask is also in the preliminary stuff David Lloyd sketched up, which is at the back of this hardback I have.
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If you want to see the original story then you need to see the UK Warrior magazines published between 1982 and 1985.
Trust me and the author. The mask came from the movie.
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http://www.thehoodedsage.com/2011/11/v-for-vendetta/
"What the movie never shows from the original story is that after V dies, Evey dons the Guy Fawkes mask and actually becomes the masked vigilante herself. Evey becomes V. Evey becomes the Idea—the Symbol. It’s not enough to sit around with concepts. Eventually, you have to move beyond concepts and actually become the energy of what the concepts mean. and That — is the very moment that you actually get it."
If he wore no mask, how could Evey (comics) wear it later?
http://postdesk.com/blog/an-interview-with-the-british-man-who-designed-the-anonymous-v-fo r-vendetta-mask-on-what-he-thinks-of-how-its-being-used
Apparently, the illustrator of the comics designed a mask for the comics, which the comic guy character wore, according to him. Is he wrong?
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I don't think you know what you are talking about.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_for_Vendetta
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_(comics)
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someone else posted this link: http://www.thehoodedsage.com/2011/11/v-for-vendetta/ BUT only decided to copy/paste the LAST part of it, HERE is the first part...
(Note my caps below)
"V for Vendetta originally appeared in 1982 in the black-and-white British comic book, Warrior, written by Alan Moore and illustrated by David Lloyd. The story was about anarchy in the UK, set in a near-future, post-nuclear police state, where political prisoners had been rounded up into concentration camps and used for experiments. An escaped prisoner and anarchist revolutionary WEARING A GUY FAWKES MASK, known only as “V”....."
YES there has ALWAYS been a mask, nothing new, nothing altered, T.W. MAY hold rights on the "official" plastic masks that are made and sold, but they CAN NOT attempt to trademark or patent the actual 'look' as the actual look is GUY FAWKES'S LIKENESS.
So....
TL:DR:
The mask was there since day 1 of the org 80's graphic novel & Time Warner can't sure for someone using the likeness of an 1800's REAL PERSON ;)
-Teron-
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Guy Fawkes fought under the name Guido Fawkes for the oppressive Spanish Government, who attempted to stamp the Dutch Revolt into the ground. He then tried to assassinate King James I and restore a Catholic monarch to the throne.
This Guy Fawkes was hardly a freedom loving figure, but more a henchman of a foreign power, or as Lenin called them, a Useful Idiot.
Now the interesting question is whether all those Anonymous persons want to become the 21st century's Useful Idiots for Hollywood?
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When making the movie they wanted to move away from the general terrorist anarchist type character and to give him a "guy fawkes" iconic appearance and a Robin Hood type personality.
It would no surprise that any further written works publish after the movie release would be adjusted to match the movie, mask and all, seeing that it did so well.
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Please, do the world a favor and have even a slight clue as to what you are talking about when you say stuff like this. The comic was NOT "adjusted" to match the movie vis-a-vis the mask. That was a component of the original comic since its inception. All one has to do is find any back issue and read even a couple of pages to prove your ridiculous assertion completely false.
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It did have a mask.
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So unlike I incorrectly stated the original comics did involve a mask. However when the movie was made they created a different mask and it is that mask which they now sell cheaper copies of and which all profit goes to Time Warner.
The ultimate irony. Those who fight big media fund big media.
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http://www.shadowgalaxy.net/Vendetta/gallery.html
The mask in the movie fallow exactly the design set in the comic book.
Even the ridiculous red circles in the cheeks are there.
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But for me the real irony is that although Time Warner is making a buck, that buck will cost them dearly.
Loss of public respect translates to loss of power and eventually money.
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We used to buy them to put on our Guy Fawkes dummies, which were used by kids to make a few quid by displaying them on the pavements and asking for 'a penny for the Guy'. Come November the 5th they'd then be thrown on the bonfire and burnt! Great times :)
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He was picked because he failed.
Guy Fawkes Day is celebrated because he failed.
Anonymous has turned failure into pure win.
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nie tylko maski polecam, przyłączyc się . Chyba będzie z tego wojna.
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nie tylko maski polecam, przyłączyc się . Chyba będzie z tego wojna.
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Masks for our US politicians?
BR.
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If we speak about Polish protests against ACTA
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anti-ACTA protest in poland
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If you had I'd have said you should do Congress next. Things would probably run better if you were in charge.
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What everyone so far has failed to notice is that DC Comics is a division of Warner Bros and Time Warner. So chicken or egg, it all belongs to them anyway.
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Nobody expected an instant victory, particularly when the battle is on an international scale. Right now, Poland is setting a precedent, showing that the common man won't cave in to corporate pressure and negative press. Will they win? Maybe. But even if they don't, they're standing up for what they believe in. And are you really so petty as to mock them for that?
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Currently I think those in the United States need to do more to ensure ACTA is passed to Congress to review. Out protesting on the streets will be more productive than their current plan.
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ACTA is NOT good for EVERYONE! We (polish people) dont wont ACTA in our country!
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Poland in protest
the link shows you what was happening in only one city:
http://krakow.gazeta.pl/krakow/1,44425,11032507,Protest_przeciwko_ACTA_w_Krakowie__FOTO_i_W IDEO_.html
and it is not over. next protests are planned for today and tomorrow. the prime minister started to understand that they make a misstake...
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Democracy = Dictature
You must know, that our world is controlled since centuries. World governments, especially USA aren't real democratic government. YOU USA PEOPLE HAVE THE BIGGEST PROPAGANDA ON THE WORLD. The propaganda is based on your good hearts, based on our white people culture developed since more than 2000 years. They destroying the our civilization, the most powerful civilization. Now, we're falling down due socialism systems - whole XX century. Now, in the Europe - there's next socialism system. And we fallen down again. We have to stop this, before they destroy planet with soldiers, new technology weapons such nuclear bomb, etc. Bush, Obama were only puppets. The real power, reign are behind curtain. The main media like CNN, Hollywood, MTV are tools to make a propaganda. You must know, that freemasonry control us and they probably control or WILL TRY TO CONTROL ANONYMOUS MOVEMENT, so beware! In the Poland we had the same history, believe me, we experienced so much. Don't trust your government - they are bad "people", very bad - more than you will even could think...
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btw. sry for my english, i hope you understood what i was trying to say
greetings from Poland
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Janusz Palikot was a very active activist PO - Tusk's party, the ruling now in Poland. He is not so, what would you see him. He also took what he could and just lied and insulted "the other" as Tusk.
Now assumes that mask, because he wants to show that is so cool and solidarity with the protesters. But in reality is just propaganda, which aims to show Palikot in a better light. He just about to win the electorate PO, who will not know for whom to vote in subsequent elections.
Today, he joined the demonstrators in Warsaw, but Polish fans driven out of him.
Do not be fooled!
Read the opinions of reliable web sites, for example: www.niezalezna.pl www.salon24.pl
Polish girl
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don't believe them
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Guy Fawkes Masks and Anonymous shirts
http://www.AnonymousTees.com
http://www.AnonyMasks.com
http://www.vstoreonline.com
They all ship worldwide, accept Paypal, cheap prices for quality masks and shirts. They have Guy Fawkes Masks, Anonymous + Guy Fawkes and disobey tees / tshirts, fawkes costumes, anonymous computer accessories and more
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