Chris Dodd Rewrites Hollywood's History To Pretend That It Came About Because Of IP Laws
from the well,-sort-of dept
Ah, Chris Dodd. Can you open your mouth without saying something ridiculously misleading? Sometimes, it doesn't seem possible. The latest is that he's claiming that strong IP laws were the reason Hollywood was created:The truth is that neither the content nor the technology industries could survive without strong protections for intellectual property.Of course, that's all hogwash. Well, in a very twisted way, he's right. Hollywood did come about because of strong patent protection, but not the way Dodd seems to be suggesting. Instead, the reason that filmmakers moved out to Hollywood was because it was about as far away as they could get from Thomas Edison, who held the patents on basic filmmaking technology, and demanded exorbitant licensing fees. So the main reason that Hollywood is in Hollywood is because they were seeking a place to hide from patents.
Many of you are familiar with how the name Hollywood became synonymous with the birth of the American film industry. It was in Jacob Stern’s horse barn, at the corner of Hollywood and Vine, the story goes, that Cecil B. DeMille screened the first full length feature film 100 years ago.
Well, when it comes to the tech sector, replace “Jacob Stern’s horse barn” with “Mark Zuckerberg’s dorm room” at Harvard, and you have almost the same story with the birth of Facebook.
In these and countless other examples throughout our history, the ability to give birth to an idea and convert it into economic success, whether it is the content of a film or the technology of the internet, depends on copyright and patent protection
It's a bit ridiculous for Dodd to try to rewrite this well-known history, and pretend that Hollywood developed because of strong IP protections when the exact opposite is what happened. I realize that Chris Dodd spent most of his adult life as a politician, so perhaps it's a bit naive to expect him to actually tell the truth, but at some point someone who works for him (I'm sure there's someone on staff who has accessed the internet once or twice) might want to explain to him that people can fact check him these days with relative ease online. Perhaps the next version of SOPA can be used to block people mocking Chris Dodd's inane statements as well...
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Chris Dodd...
I even checked out the option of getting a Colon Cleansing when I finished reading another article about how Chris Dodd has achieved the illegal action of becoming a lobbyist before it was legal for his to do so.
I think the internet should create a campaign against Chris Dodd. Blast him with the full power of the information we can find on the internet.
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So, Hollywood was created by pirates?
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I like it. Instead of a #TellVicEverything campaign, we can do an #ExposeChrisDodd campaign.
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Re: Revisionist History is NohBohdey's Beetch.
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What about the twins?
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I, for one, definitely DO NOT WANT Chris Dodd exposing himself.
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Sadly the exact opposite is almost always true.
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Next version of SOPA
No, the next version of SOPA will simply make it illegal to contradict the official government version of history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four#Censorship
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Well, it could be interesting in a Chris Lee sort of way. I wonder if he'd have to resign? There are quite a few Senators and Representatives who've had to resign lately for exposing themselves...a retroactive resignation might work (and at least it would get people to stop referring to him as Senator, even though we all know he is still the esteemed senator from MPAA.)
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What I really meant was pouring over his public records and exposing every time he changed his tune based on who was funding him and that type of thing.
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Probably just me, but using the terms "short notice" and "Chris Dodd exposing himself" in the same comment made me chuckle.
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Dodd's corruption and lies is by no stretch limited to MPAA related matters.
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"And here you are, doing a complete reversal on your stance on [x] after having received $[y] campaign contributions from [z]"
Or something to that effect... (affect? damn.)
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Re: "Fair and Balanced" Load of Sh*t
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2. MS was orignally founded as a software firm that just made office software, only expanding into the OS market due to a need for an option other then apple.
I dont like MS but the facts are the facts, MS didnt steal dos, and they didnt start out with dos, their first software was for apple.
on the other hand, your correct about apple being founded on theft, steve jobs admitted he and apple where thieves in a video interview.
"good artists copy, great artists steal" yet, the funny part to me is, years later he said he would "Destroy android because its a stolen product" ROFL.....
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Technically he''s right
Without those strong copyright and patent protections, innovators would not be forced to work so hard and so fast to build economically successful things that grow strong enough fast enough to resist the legal forces that seek to crush them.
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"Those who count on 'Hollywood' for support need to understand that this industry is watching very carefully who's going to stand up for them when their job is at stake. Don't ask me to write a check for you when you think your job is at risk and then don't pay any attention to me when my job is at stake,"
Nuff said.
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The best you'd get out of mainstream news is Dodd's statement followed by "...critics say that Dodd's version of history is incorrect." Because balance is more important than research, apparently.
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Edison had his own goon squad that physically protected his patents so the rouge film makers (read indies) moved from New York to California where they revolutionized the film industry with a series of technical breakthroughs.
If they hadn't have, we might still be watching 8mm silent black and white movies.
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Hey Mike, Fixed it for you
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Southern California's climate (Bright and sunny every day) was perfect for filming outdoors.
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I personally wish the Worst Luck possible to fall on this schmuck.I hope someone hacks his computer and network and releases all the dirty laundry they find.
You are less than an insect.
Bad Luck To You Chris Dodd !!!
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Well that's interesting. Yahoo and others claim Facebook is in violation of their patents which is why Facebook buys other companies. To get their IP. However Facebook was a success long before it had the capital clout to go around buying up other companies or even before Facebook it's self was a company.
So in spite of the fact Facebook is supposedly in breach of Yahoo's IP. Facebook succeeds where Yahoo is increasingly failing. I don't think it's IP law that's driving success here.
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Lets update this, shall we?
Hollywood had it's copyrights to protect it's ability to be the sole creator and distributor of entertainment, so the rouge film makers (read indies and younger generation growing up in an always-connected world where sharing is common) moved from 19th century technology to 21st century technology via the internet, where they revolutionized the distribution of film with a series of technological breakthroughs that enabled many more people (beyond just those in Hollywood) to be able to create, distribute and profit from their work.
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Prof. Lessig's Reivew of the Social Network
It is worth pointing out that Prof. Lessig (who's opinion should be infinitely weightier than Chris Dodd's) point out in his review of The Social Network that it came about largely BECAUSE he didn't have to go about asking permission from a bunch of people, i.e., it is precisely the lack of regulatory hurdles that made Facebook an overnight success.
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Johnny Cage 4Chan: Now, wait a minute. If this guy's so powerful, why doesn't he just invade us?
Raiden Techdirt: To enter the realm of the Internet, Chris Dodd and his demon senator Lamar Smith must pass ten straight bills to destroy our rights. They have passed nine. This will be the tenth bill.
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*after Lamar Smith's and the last bill's defeat*
Raiden Techdirt: I gotta tell ya, you guys did great!
????: BOW TO ME!!!
Liu Kang Reddit: What is it?
Raiden Techdirt: Chris Dodd.
Chris Dodd: YOU WEAK, PATHETIC FOOLS!! I'VE COME FOR YOUR RIGHTS!!
Raiden Techdirt: I don't think so.
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Alternatively....
If one assumes it was aimed at politicians who;
a/ Probably can't fact-check him on the internet and
b/ Become even less willing to try with the application of an envelope full of dead presidents
then it makes a whole lot more sense.
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Edison the pirate.
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Effect is specific to a certain result.
Affect is only stating that a result was caused.
They had an affect. (noun)
They had this effect. (noun)
They affected the change. (verb)
They effected change. (verb)
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Fast forward to today. Now in the Internet age we have people that want to create new content that are running to the Internet and its underground to avoid the repressive, restrictive controls and contracts of Hollywood so that they can do what they love and create great movies, music, books, and other content.
Its history repeating itself, just in a slightly different way. Why can't people learn from history? Especially their own?
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Wrong Target.
As long as they have money, there will always be another sellout lowlife for them to throw up there and there's no point wasting your energy on sellout lowlifes.
Ignore the mouthpiece du jour, focus on the real enemy, (their command) and starve them to death.
That's right, Boycott. They are dead without your money.
They are going to die anyway. Starving them will just make it happen sooner AND save you time and money.
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Most of what Apple made after that came from ideas stolen from others (Xerox and many others). Jobs couldn't have an original idea to save his life.
But he could take others original ideas and make them a whole lot better and his skills with design, esthetics, and user-friendly-ness were uncanny. That is where his creativity and originality comes from. Even then most of that was inspired by other ideas and concepts that he learned. He just applied them in very creative ways.
Ironically there is really nothing wrong with being inspired by others original ideas and then improving upon them. That is part of innovation. Apple and Jobs just had a problem with others that innovated off of inspiration from Apple products. That is where the rub is.
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they were not founded as a software firm for office.... the office software didnt start until way later, they were founded as a software company that produced software interpreters, then they bought dos. office products didnt come until much later (word was released in 1983 and it was available for DOS only.... at the time apple had lisa write...so no, it was not created 'for apple'.
as for stealing, apple stole the concept of the gui from xerox, microsoft lifted the idea from apple and yes, jobs said that but he even stole that comment from picaso who said it long before jobs did... (and i belive that bob dylan also said the same thing but worded slightly differently).
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Actually, Gates did not write DOS. He licensed it from a company called Seattle Computer Products. Their OS was called 86-DOS (aka Q-DOS, it was a CP/M clone) and Gates essentially just renamed it.
However, SCP maintained that Gates violated the terms of the licensing agreement and sued. While the jury was deciding the case, Microsoft settled out of court, paying SCP $925,000 in exchange for complete rights to the operating system.
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How does one go about 'stealing' a concept?
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My example of this exact thing.
The current rights holder has stated i may do as i wish as long as i make no money and to get a commercial liscense for something i have tested to see would be popular using "torrents" of a half finished browser game ...well it means it wont get done and other stuff i had ideas for wont either like a animated sci fi tv series due to costs of software legally speaking....
I am not going to sell my rights to these greedy types so YOU THE PEOPLE LOSE....not me , i entertain myself. TOO bad i can't share.
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Sure they paid almost a Million for it, but look how much SCP would have earned if their product had not been stolen...
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Chris Dodd
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Because he bribed a current president?
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Re: Edison the pirate.
So, Chris Dodd but with better ideas.
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History, its awesome.
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Re: My example of this exact thing.
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/s
sigh...
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There's a saying...
"If their lips are moving their lying"
It's usually applied to producers and UPMs, but I have to say often unfairly. Really I know some producers and UPMs who are paragons of ethics and goodwill (I am serious). But then there are some others who seem to have the moral development of jackals. I would group Dodd into this latter category.
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Knowledge can be valuable....
At least three separate pieces of congressional legislation were passed to curb the corruption of Dodd's daddy when he was a senator (see details on the FARA legislation, etc.), and Dodd's ancestor was the same attorney Dodd who worked for John D. Rockefeller on financial fraud constructs of holding companies, trusts and tax-exempt foundations, etc.
Dodd is just being Dodd, as each generation has been......
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My indie consumption? Way, way up. Vodo is pretty damn cool.
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From: 'Programmers at work', Microsoft Press, Redmond, WA [1986]:
Interviewer: "Is studying computer science the best way to prepare to be a programmer?"
Gates: "No, the best way to prepare is to write programs, and to study great programs that other people have written. In my case, I went to the garbage cans at the Computer Science Center and I fished out listings of their operating system."
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2. The first films shot out in Hollywood were made by Biograph, one of the MPPC members. Obviously, they would not need to escape the MPPC's tactics.
3. Most studios moved out there for its nearly constant sunlight and its variety of landscapes within short travel distances. Escaping the MPPC's illegal activity was a side bonus. They were not "rogue filmmakers" or "pirates" anymore than Garry Newman is a pirate because he was sued by Righthaven.
4. The movies they made were protected by copyright, which has nothing to do with Edison's patents. Without strong copyright protection, theatres could show their films without paying them, or make their own copies without reimbursement.
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Hollywood and Edison's Royalties
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RIGHT ON TARGET. CHRIS NEVER WORKED A DAY IN HIS LIFE, HE'S ALWAYS BEE A POLITICIAN, SOMETHING HANDED DOWN FROM HIS FATHER, WHO WAS DISGRACED AND LEFT THE SENATE IN SHAME.
DAD
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Hollywood and IP
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