Wide Disparity In Which ISPs (In Which Countries) Throttle BitTorrent
from the so-does-it-work? dept
The folks over at M-Lab have apparently updated their data on BitTorrent throttling to look at how much different ISPs throttle BitTorrent connections. TorrentFreak has an excellent summary of the data, showing that thanks to Comcast getting slapped down for its BitTorrent throttling years ago, there's very little happening in the US. Other countries, however, show a very different story (though it seems to vary wildly from ISP to ISP. For example, in the UK< 65% of BitTorrent traffic on BT gets throttled, but none gets throttled on O2. Similarly, up in Canada, 80% is throttled on Rogers, and none on Telus.With all this data out, it will be interesting to see two things: (1) If people start switching providers based on this data -- and, no, not just for unauthorized access, but for all the many legitimate uses of BitTorrent these days. (2) If this leads to any additional research on the impact of throttling. This data points to some areas where researchers could do either cross-country comparisons between those that have high throttling and those that have low throttling, or intra-country comparisons between ISPs with exceptionally different policies.
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My ISP is Time Warner Cable's Road Runner.
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Now if only more ISPs shared the same concerns.
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I saw this one coming a mile away. Mike, I think you need to be fair here. The legitimate uses of BitTorrent generally don't involve very large files, so speed is not particularly important. Further, only people who are heavy enough users to sense true throttling would care. Those users? Pirates come to mind.
I would say that for the most part, the people interested in this data have a reason to be interested. I doubt that the average end user type really cares. It would be like saying their access to Usenet was somehow limited. It doesn't hurt them, they just want their facebook and angry birds downloads.
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Citation please?
Personal counterexample:
I install and update three different online games that use the BT protocol for distribution. Total installation size (with current patches) is in just below 20Gb.
If I can't play on patch day because my ISP is choking my connection, you bet I will be looking for an alternative.
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But wait, I use put.io to download torrents thus all my pirating traffic comes in https (even though my last 15Gb consisted of legit files).
So most of my P2P traffic is actually legal lmao. Hilarious.
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Apparently I, and the rest of the real world, disagree with that.
"BitTorrent is a peer-to-peer file sharing protocol used for distributing large amounts of data over the Internet. BitTorrent is one of the most common protocols for transferring large files and it has been estimated that peer-to-peer networks collectively have accounted for roughly 43% to 70% of all Internet traffic (depending on geographical location) as of February 2009.[1]"
Still not convinced?
"The BitTorrent protocol can be used to reduce the server and network impact of distributing large files. Rather than downloading a file from a single source server, the BitTorrent protocol allows users to join a "swarm" of hosts to download and upload from each other simultaneously. The protocol is an alternative to the older single source, multiple mirror sources technique for distributing data, and can work over networks with lower bandwidth so many small computers, like mobile phones, are able to efficiently distribute files to many recipients."
Here is the one thing you have to realize and fail to through stupidity. In order to USE BitTorrent, you still need a gateway/modem connecting you to the Internet. If your service goes down, you cannot use a bit torrent.
Link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent
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I think you missed Pridoner 201's comment.
On that, let's do the math. Take 20. Divide by 3. You get 6.67
That'd be 6.67GB of data.
Stop making comments without thinking and I will insult you less.
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You will have to check my other posts to see how I deal with sock puppets and devient trolls. Also, I'm wondering if that avatar of his matches anybody else's with different names. It usually reveals whether or not the person is the same or not.
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You will have to check my other posts to see how I deal with sock puppets and devient trolls. Also, I'm wondering if that avatar of his matches anybody else's with different names. It usually reveals whether or not the person is the same or not.
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I think you missed Pridoner 201's comment. "
No, I didn't miss his comment. I don't think commercial distribution via bit torrent is a very good example, because it's a company leeching bandwidth from all providers to make their business go. Quite simply, you wouldn't pay what it would cost for distribution.
They are piss poor examples, because I salute ISPs for blocking it.
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You are so full of fail it hurts to watch.
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Wow...
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(Isn't it their job to provide that?)
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Commercial distribution via BitTorrent is USING BITTORRENT. You really are miserable and alone aren't you? Anyone who must of put this much fail up could easily be seaking attention. I'll give you a chance to redeem yourself and give good well thought out, logical, reasoning skill enduced thoughts, with links, and maybe I'll consider giving you the attention you deserve if you made an actual effort.
Now that I have your attention,
The company is not leaching bandwidth. Comcast in particular has no trouble at all. You asked for an example of pretty much any BitTorrent traffic used in downloading files in the 5 to 10 gigabyte range right? We gave you a logical and perfectly good example within the bounds of your questionnaire. We have you a logical explanation.
The only reason you fail is because while Prisoner 201 and I gave you unbiased, well thought out examples and logic to prove indisputable facts, you still decided to put on your derp face and try to intelligently rebuttal hard evidence. You could have learned something troll, but you decided to stay uninformed and in your fantasy world of self amusement to make pointless trolling arguments.
I've decided to try to be particularly nice to you. But be warned, any more sock puppetry trolling failures will result in my wrath.
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No it's not. It's not leeching bandwidth from anyone. It's individual users using bandwidth that they already pay for.
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Family photo collections, family videos.
Texture collections, photo collections, open source games, public domain movies and videos, government databases(ie: Legal, financial, statistics, scientific data, etc)
Because you don't use the interwebz and don't know the wonderful things it has enable it doesn't mean there are others not using those.
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It's nice when you bullshit at the start of your rant, it makes it easier to ignore. Unless you have a citation for your ridiculous assertion, of course.
"Further, only people who are heavy enough users to sense true throttling would care."
Yes, that's right, people who download legitimate content love downloading at a fraction of the speed. Only pirates want their content quickly. Are you really this stupid?
"they just want their facebook and angry birds downloads."
Then why do you keep attacking them for piracy? If the majority of people aren't pirating, why do you claim so many lost sales?
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You make an excelent point though ^_^
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oh that's funny.
All they have to do is DPI those that regularly gorge themselves with BT activity and then zap those that are plainly using it for illegal means rather than "legitimate uses".
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It's quite telling how dismissive you are about the legitimate uses of bittorrent protocol. And sorry to say, but businesses are not leeching off others by putting files online using torrents and allowing others to help share some of the bandwidth cost.
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RICO violation
concerning theft of copyrighted materials. Anyone visiting this site is liable to be caught up in the on-going investigation into this criminals activities. Be careful.
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You'd think an investigative reporter (who graduated from Antioch Law School) would know this. But as we saw a few days ago, not all who are writers are that bright or apparently able to read/know facts. And the same applies for quite a few lawyers apparently (as Charles Carreon excellently proved).
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But in this case, it's doubtful it is. Just threw that there just because.
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concerning theft of copyrighted materials. Anyone visiting this site is liable to be caught up in the on-going investigation into this criminals activities. Be careful.
Umm. Perhaps you should be careful yourself.
I am not a lawyer, but that comment sounded very libelous to me.
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Of course, because it's entirely peopled by criminals... ;)
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Throttling just gives you control.
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