The Cake Copyright Is A Lie; Safeway Just Doesn't Want To Be Mocked
from the time-to-take-your-business-elsewhere dept
A few folks have sent in this story on the blog of the wonderful (and super popular) site Cake Wrecks, which (as the name suggests) highlights hilariously bad cake designs, supposedly done by "professionals." Not surprisingly, the site is well known among those who wield cake decorating bags. However, some do not appreciate the wonders of such a site... especially when it features their own cakes. Cake Wrecks recently put up a blog post in which it reveals that at least one Safeway (a part of the giant supermarket chain) has apparently told its bakery that there is a "no photography" rule, officially set up to avoid having its cakes show up on the site -- though, they're using copyright as their excuse:"My local [CENSORED*] bakery has this new policy - not strictly enforced, but kinda enforced - NO PHOTOS in the bakery department. None, nada. Per an ex-employee there, upper management is afraid that one of that store's specific cakes will be posted on 'that bad cake site.' Per what they tell you in the store, their cakes are 'all copyright protected.'"Furthermore, the person who sent the email was told to stop photographing the following cake, because of "copyright protection!"
Of course, there is a question of whether or not such cakes are actually covered by copyright. That actually probably depends on each individual cake -- since there has to be some sort of overall creative element added to the cake, and many "standard" cake designs probably don't qualify. Of course, even if the cake is covered by copyright, it seems silly to argue that copyright is a reasonable excuse to ban any and all photographs. There would be a ridiculously strong fair use claim in response. The photograph is transformative (it's not a cake, it's a photgraph). The nature of the work is to disseminate information to the public, which tends to weigh in favor of fair use. And the effect on the "market" for the copyrighted work is nil. Now, some may argue that it would impact the market for the cake, but that's because it's showing how ridiculous the cake is, not because it's a substitute. And, in the famous Campbell v. Acuff-Rose case, the Supreme Court made clear:
We do not, of course, suggest that a parody may not harm the market at all, but when a lethal parody, like a scathing theater review, kills demand for the original, it does not produce a harm cognizable under the Copyright Act.I'd say Cake Wrecks fits into that description nicely. Either way, even if there was a legitimate copyright claim here, all it does is call that much more attention to the fact that apparently Safeway has pretty horrid quality control for many of its cake designers. Instead of coming up with ridiculous legal arguments to stop people from photographing their cakes, perhaps they should just find better cake designers.
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Filed Under: cake, copyright, parody, shame
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You can write a recipe in the form of a sonnet, for example, that would absolutely be protected by copyright.
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Oh wait, no I can't...
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My point is that you may be able to obtain copyright protection for the original, creative expression embodied in a recipe, although you cannot obtain copyright protection for the ingredients or the method of cooking.
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The exact way of expressing the recipe might be copyrighted. For an example, if you write a recipe filled with detailed descriptions of the steps include a carefully-staged photo of the results and conclude with a memory that dish brings up, your expression is copyrightable. I can't just go and republish the whole thing.
I can however, read your recipe and then follow your steps to make my supper. I could then take my own photos and write up my own description and comments and publish that without fear of copyright violation. I can do this even though I started with your recipe and even though I am describing how to make the same dish. I can do this even if you were the first person in history to use that recipe and I never could have come up with that dish without your recipe.
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"They want to sell their cake and eat it too."
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So bad
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I wonder what is their stance on derivative works. More specifically, derivative works that happen a few hours after the consumption of the cake.
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bad cake reviews affect the market for a product and
good cake reviews affect the market for a product..
Then smartest business thing to do is make bad cake reviews illegal!
I'm a genius.
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Work for hire?
Is this not a classic work-for-hire, and therefore shouldn't the copyright be mine, not the bakery's?
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Of course, that part also doesn't matter, because it IS fair use. "No, we don't need to buy that cake, we've already downloaded a picture of it on the Internet" are words that will never be uttered.
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17 U.S.C. § 101
And see Community For Creative Non-Violence v Reid (1989).
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I'd be very interested in a human-language explanation from someone who knows this corner of the law.
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CCNV v Reid is the leading case on this issue.
Is there a writing?
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Here's a fact-pattern for you: You author drawings for a cake design, and register them with the copyright office. Then you take the drawings to Safeway, and ask them to bake a cake for you according to your drawings. You pay Safeway by check. On the back of the check, it there's a legend:
The Safeway cashier accepts your check (and it is later deposited) and the baker bakes the cake.
Who owns the copyright on the cake?
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Otherwise, it is possible that the purchaser and baker are co-authors of a joint work (if the baker contributed his own creative contributions).
It is probably not a work made for hire (since it doesn't fit any statutory work made for hire category). Wait...are illustrations a WMFH cateogry? Not sure.
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Well, suppose a professor brings the cake into class, explains the baking of the cake, and then announces:
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I don't think the cake is a test or answer material for a test, anyway.
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1. The work must be specially commissioned for use as one of 9 identified types of works;
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2. There needs to be a written document signed by the parties stating that it's a work made for hire.
Otherwise, it's not a work made for hire.
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I should clarify that the person paying for the work could still own the copyright via a written assignment, or could have an implied license.
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However, if you are truly specifying all the creative elements, you may in fact own the copyright as the author.
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Funny that this fair use call is a little more than the typical "clearly fair use" calls, and yet is actually a stronger claim than most of those calls.
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Terrible, just terrible
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Bravo on the title
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I really really hope streisand effect hits this one...
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Law
No worrying about Fair Use or balancing tests or critical commentary or parody or any of it. "It's our property, these are our rules" trumps all of that.
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How to steal your cake and eat it too
Copyright infringement is theft.
You have therefore stolen the cake.
But wouldn't such photography be fair use because it for the purposes of criticism on the bad cake site?
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The Aperture Science lawyers will be contacting you shortly for your damaging comments about cakes!
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I appeal to correction of the red herring category fallacy, ad misericordiam used to justify the calling of copyright a property right.
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Hmmm...
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Photography in retail spaces
So Safeway was wrong about the law, but right that a law exists.
You can buy the cake and photograph it without any repercussions.
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When everyone's glasses are a camera, and connected to the cloud, then how will bakeries be protected from people stealing their cakes via copyright infringing photography?
Beyond the issue of cake, there are much larger issues when we someday get widespread use of google glass(es). Next thing you know, people's eyewear will be photographing the police without using their hands.
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So they admit their cakes are bad?
Sounds reasonable.
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I am sorry but I can not award you the promised bonus points for covering this.
The bonus points were promised only if you used the ball gag rabbit cake picture...
So sad...
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Cake designers are paid hourly minimum wage; dumbf**k lawyers are on retainer. Hiring better cake designers would cost money. Threatening customers with frivolous lawsuits doesn't cost anything except customer goodwill, and since you can't measure that in dollars and chart it in Excel, it's not important.
Tsk. Really, Mike. Get your priorities straight.
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Oh, you may want to keep Dark Helmet away from the "Darth Vader Baby Shower" cake pictures.
No, Really. ;)
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Recipe for Copycake
( If you can't find bleached out ones you can substitute Outdated ones)
1 cup half baked store manager,slightly retarded.
2 cup crushed copyright nuts.
Dash of bitters.
2 cups RIAA juice.
3 IP trolls, Blended.
1 dozen Out of touch corporations with far right attitudes separated from the center.
Blend all the ingredients in to a large forum.
Turn up the heat until half baked.
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