China Hails ITU Internet Takeover By Blowing Its Favorite Trumpet: Distrusting The US
from the one-way-of-looking-at-it dept
While there's been plenty of talk about the upcoming ITU process, the ITU keeps attempting to downplay what it's trying to do -- and insisting that Russia, China and other regimes aren't looking to use the process to clamp down on the internet. Of course, proposal leaks from Russia suggest otherwise. As for China, Dave Farber points us to an editorial in the People's Daily newspaper in China from back in August that argues that the ITU process is necessary to wrest control of the internet away from the US.This indicated the U.S. decision to retain ultimate control over the global Internet, which enabled it to unilaterally close the Internet of another country. A suddenly paralyzed Internet would definitely cause huge social and economic losses to the country.This is an exaggeration of reality. While ICANN has serious problems -- which we frequently discuss here -- that doesn't mean that dumping it entirely in favor of a ridiculously secretive and bureaucratic process like the ITU makes sense. The article goes on to cite the US apparently turning off the .iq domain for Iraq during the invasion in 2003. Of course, that's an interesting rewriting of history. The issue with the .iq domain wasn't quite as cut and dried as the editorial implies. First of all, .iq wasn't a widely used domain no matter what. But, more importantly, it was entirely managed and controlled by a guy in Texas who was accused of funding terrorists and eventually sentenced to 84 months in jail. It wasn't so much a case of the US government running to ICANN and saying shut down the domain, as it was a criminal investigation into separate issues that happened to scoop up the one guy who controlled the TLD. And, it should be noted that ICANN gave .iq back to the Iraqi government years ago.
More and more countries are beginning to question the U.S. control over the world’s Internet as the international resource should be managed and supervised by all countries together. However, the United States has conducted a pre-emptive strike, and refused to give up control over the Internet in the name of protecting the resource. The refusal reflects its hegemonic mentality and double standards.
The United States controls and owns all cyberspaces in the world, and other countries can only lease Internet addresses and domain names from the United States, leading to the U.S. hegemonic monopoly over the world’s Internet.
This kind of stuff indicates the lengths to which the Chinese government seems willing to go to prop up the ITU process for taking over aspects of internet governance: they'll just lie and make up stories when the truth isn't particularly convenient.
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does anyone in their right mind that buys an item at a fraction of the real price, actually think they are buying the genuine article? of course not! does anyone in their right mind think that closing down a website or a shop that sells counterfeit/imitation goods means that the buyers are going to go and buy the genuine item instead? of course not! all that happens is that those that were buying the non-genuine articles buy something else, but lose their little bit of fantasy. those making the non genuine items lose their jobs, they have less money, things dont get bought, taxes dont get paid. it ends up as a lose-lose situation except for the satisfaction law enforcement get from fucking something else up. buying 'knock-offs' hardly constitute lives. by going after those people instead of real criminals could do.
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I ask because we know the US hates that wall (because they can't break into it and steal secrets).
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Wait what?!
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Your fear mongering of China and Russia does nothing for your argument. You deliberately mislead the reader by failing to properly present the ITU - a United Nations agency which includes 193 nation states and is headquartered in Geneva, Switzerland. So yes, while China and Russia are members, so to is the United States. If control of domains were handed over to the ITU the United States would still have a say, but could no longer dominate.
Also, your excuses for the .iq domain seizure are incredibly weak. All this proves is that the US can arbitrarily and preemptively seize domains as they see fit. Whether the evidence of this terrorist affiliation was manufactured or not, the entire domain was seized at a time it was advantageous for the United States. This is unacceptable, and reason alone for a transfer domain operations to ITU.
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The internet has prospered under ICANNs pseudo control and the ITU will only make things worse.
Like they say, 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it!'.
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On the other hand amputation with a chainsaw is almost never a terribly good solution to a broken leg, no matter how much it hurts.
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Your blissful bending over for the ITU does nothing for your argument. You deliberately mislead the reader by failing to properly present the ITU - a power grabbing bunch of assholes. So yes, the group of assholes has assholes from everywhere. If the internet were turned over to a bunch of assholes then everyone would still have a say, but would not be listened to.
Also, your excuses for seizure of the internet are incredibly weak. All this proves is that the ITU can arbitrarily and preemptively censor the entire internet as they see fit. Whether they have evidence of piracy or political dissent will not matter, they will shut the sites down simply because they do not like them. This is unacceptable and reason alone to leave the internet be.
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Your complete disregard for who is asking for the transfer and why doesn't meant it doesn't matter or that pointing it out is 'fear mongering.'
Also your excuse for transferring to the ITU is incredibly weak. There's no evidence what-so-ever that a transfer to the ITU would result in less restrictive domain seizures while circumstantial evidence that a transfer to the ITU would result in more restrictions abounds.
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Eh, just forget the whole thing.
- Bender, Futurama
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It's a good thing that those nice people at the ITU explained it for me -- how I'd have nothing to fear if they were in charge. What a load off my mind!
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Well now that we know the quite impossible goal of the ITU is. Especially when you consider the US handles about 3/4 of the Internet traffic around the world and has far more nodes than any other nation.
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ITU supports slavery
United Arab Emirates law:
"Confiscation of passports, although illegal, occurs on a large scale, primarily from unskilled or semi-skilled employees.
The UAE's system of employment for non-citizens ties an employee to the employer and prevents him or her from seeking alternative employment without the express approval of the original employer. Also, among employers of foreign laborers non-payment of wages, cramped and unsanitary living conditions and poor health and safety practices are widespread and have been the subject of foreign media attention."
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Arab_Emirates
I couldn't think of a better place for the ITU to discuss the enslavement of the internet and her people. Bravo ITU for selecting Dubai as your location of choice to kill the free internet. Bravo...
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the US is no angel by any means. but to hand over the net to guys that send there people to re education camps for going to protest? if your really that desperate when it comes to not liking how the US does things you need a break from politics.
and this is coming from a guy who regularly says obscene things about the US government.
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will no one think of...
somewhere, a baby eaglet is crying...
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If They Grab It
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Anonymity
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itdoesntmatter.com
So who the fuck cares any more its all gone to shit...
There is no democracy there is only slavery.
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Not the UN not the UTI (ITU) they would be a pain in my dong.
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BUT..if CHINA of all countries is all for the changes that they want to implement at ITU this year, that should seriously scare everyone's pants off. Nothing China ever is for in regards to Internet is a good thing. So I know which side I'm on this time.
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"..it was entirely managed and controlled by a guy in Texas who was accused of funding terrorists.."
"..it was a criminal investigation into separate issues.."
Umm, the war in 2003 was because of TERRORISTS. I wouldn't really call that a separate issue.
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