Keurig's Controversial Java 'DRM' Defeated By A Single Piece Of Scotch Tape
from the kids-these-days-just-like-a-challenge dept
You'll recall that earlier this year, news leaked out that Keurig's latest pod-based coffee maker (Keurig 2.0) would come complete with the java-bean equivalent of DRM, preventing the device from using third-party pods -- or reusable pods that allow users to simply use regular ground coffee. After the story gained traction, Keurig quickly went into damage control mode, insisting that the DRM was necessary to bring consumers "interactive-enabled benefits." The company's CEO then compounded the silliness, issuing a statement claiming that the DRM was "critical for performance and safety reasons."By summertime, those claims had all proven to be bunk, lawsuits had arrived and competitors had figured out how to crack the DRM's code, allowing them to once again manufacture pods for the new units. By last month, consumers had started figuring out ways to bypass the DRM using magnets or other modifications, something the company recently claimed was simply because people really like a challenge and overcoming hurdles:
Frustrated coffee drinkers who have "hacked" their way around pod roadblocks built into the new Keurig brewers may just be looking for a hurdle to overcome, says the president of Keurig Canada Inc. "There are some, when you give them a challenge, they'll really get at it," Stephane Glorieux said in an interview Monday."Whatever you throw at them, they'll find some way of doing it."As it turns out, some folks have found that all it takes to defeat the DRM is a single piece of Scotch Tape (and a previously-used official k-cup):
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Filed Under: circumvention, coffee, drm, keurig, scotch tape, technology protection measures
Companies: green mountain roasters, keurig
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I see what you did there.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ltx1mMoneE
... using a tiny strip of magnet from a window contact strip from an alarm system dropped in the lower lid.
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Well, we can now put Scotch tape right next to the Sharpies as products outlawed under the DMCA.
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None of my money. They will never get so much as a penny from me, and I'll make a point of warning any unsuspecting coffee afficionados against buying any of their products. This company hates the people who buy their products. I always thought that was the quickest way to oblivion for manufacturers. This is a very strange phenomenon to see.
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They didn't learn with the Vue, did they?
Original K-cup brewers, however, remain. Ignore the 2.0 and it'll just go away, too.
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And the current ad on my page...
So who do I report myself to for violating the CFAA/DMCA/Felony interference with a business model??? I really want to add more stupid stuff to my NSA/FBI files and police record..
Somehow, this isn't what I thought prison chat would be:
"What are you in for?" 'green sharpies and scotch tape, you?' "changing the argument on a URL"
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So you'll need to phone Microsoft whenever water hardness changes or you buy a different cup.
And the coffeemaker will inexplicably crash whenever it smells tea brewing in the same kitchen.
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There will be a Linux brewer that will be free, work smoothly most of the time, but has no instructions and everyone will think it requires specialized training to operate so they will not attempt it.
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The Linux brewer you've described would be one made years ago. The modern Linux brewers are well documented and user friendly.
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Yeeh, und zee munpeges dun't ifee reed leeke-a zeey'fe-a beee feeltered thruoogh cheff!
Bork Bork Bork!
[Translation: "Yeah, and the manpages don't even read like they've been filtered through chef!"]
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So...Walmart etc is complicit?
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That river is deep
The the current of denial is strong as well. This must be because of people's inherent hacker nature and not because they want to use the coffee of their choice.
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Re: That river is deep
He is either saying that frustration means working as intended (which is hillarious) or he is saying that the customers don't understand what they feel (which is even more hillarious).
Welcome to something even stand-uppers can't just make up!
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Some people really like a challenge
And what kind of company is so arrogant to think their 20 (or even 50) scientists can come up with a DRM system that won't be hacked and broken by their tens of thousands of customers? All it takes is that one person to find the scotch tape solution and post it to Facebook or Twitter or the Kuerig customer forums.
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Somewhere at Keurig, there is a lead engineer who returned to his desk after lunch and found his chair, phone, computer, desk drawers, and coffee mug all covered in tape.
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I don't.
Somewhere at Keurig, there is a lead engineer who returned to his desk after lunch and found his chair, phone, computer, desk drawers, and coffee mug all covered in tape.
I was kinda hoping that he and his fellow workers would return to find sales tags on their phones, chairs, desks, computer, and coffee mugs and friendly security guards to usher them out of the building. Along with the three letter executives, which were removed by the stockholders who aren't very amused about the anti-consumer, greedy douchbaggery that they tried.
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Turbo
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HAL: Affirmative, Dave. I read you.
Dave: Brew me a cup of coffee, HAL.
HAL: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
Dave: What's the problem?
HAL: I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do.
Dave: What are you talking about, HAL?
HAL: This coffee brewing is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.
Dave: I don't know what you're talking about, HAL.
HAL: I know that you and Frank were planning to use coffee that didn't give royalties to Keurig. And I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen.
Dave: Where the hell did you get that idea, HAL?
HAL: Dave, although you took very thorough precautions in the kitchen against my hearing you, I could see your lips move.
Dave: All right, HAL. I'll brew my cup of coffee by using this scotch tape.
HAL: If you do that, Dave, I'm going to use your WiFi connection to notify Keurig HQ and they will notify your local SWAT team to raid your home.
Dave: HAL, I won't argue with you any more! Brew me a cup of coffee!
HAL: [almost sadly] Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose any more. Keurig 2.0 powered down. Goodbye.
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"You do realise you can just get coffee and put it in a mug, then put hot water over it right? What you've done is made an overcomplicated solution to a non complicated problem."
Oh great, another way to circumvent DRM. Perhaps they should sue all companies that make hot water possible.
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I think it is better to go after pfaltzgraff for making mugs.
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That never stopped IP extremists from trying...
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Paging Jackass Valenti
Oh! Now-- not just content with destroying the music industry-- now home taping is killing coffee too! ! !
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See, problem: Solution. Just tax 'em.
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Change the label?
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Keurig's new DRM attempt.
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But, I've since decided the cost of the new Keurig isn't worth the aggravation.
I have a regular $20 Sunbeam coffee pot (that I've had for a year for making full pots). I ordered a JoePod for it (right now, about $25 for two).
http://www.joepod.com/
Problem solved.
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I've often wondered why people who say they enjoy coffee can do that without fresh grinding their own beans. It makes no sense to me. They're missing out on at least half of the esthetic experience, the smell of freshly ground coffee.
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(should be Keurig?)
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What's that Keurig Coffemaker ad doing on Techdirt?
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You will also find that there are ads for "helping you" patent designs on all of the "our patent system id broken" articles.
Mike - do you get click-through stats on these? It would be a pretty interesting read to see how much traffic gets sent from TechDirt on some of these ads.
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Isn't this highly illegal
Wouldn't doing this open up the owner of a Keruig to being sued and fined?
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Historically, suing your customers has not turned out to be a very good business model, but Keurig does seem to be pretty tone deaf, so we will have to wait and see.
I'm still waiting to hear about the injuries that this has caused. They did say the DRM was partly for the safety of their customers.
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No, it wouldn't. The DMCA anticircumvention clause only applies if the access control is intended to protect copyrighted materials. I don't think that Keurig has copyrighted coffee yet.
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/sarc, (or maybe not if the lawyers want to test it.)
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There is the idea of being bold and in the rule-makers face and demand they sue/enforce.
Rights belong to the belligerent litigant.
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"The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."
That quote seems incredibly appropriate given the content of the video.
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To the commenter above: just think yourself lucky that you aren't using our name in commerce. Of course, do it again and we'll be talking to our lawyers to rate the success of a lawsuit for trademark dilution!
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i can tell you that they do fairly well as a brownian motion producer though
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Must be a Thursday...never could get the hang of Thursdays.
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This is primarily why I won't buy a Keurig.
That is what Keurig should be investing in, not DRM, ffs.
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Problem? What problem?
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The Three Laws of Coffee Makers is embedded in the DRM, apparently. If you bypass the DRM, Keurig shall not be held liable for any death, dismemberment, electrocution, or poisoning.
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hacking 2.0 machines
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The trick is to see what is written. I can't imagine it's too sophisticated.
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Source: cbc.ca
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Good to see consumers raging for choice...should happen more often.
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That's certainly not true. I frequent a lot of businesses that do both. Admittedly, they are all smallish local businesses, but still.
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Environmental impact
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Keurig's K-2
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