Patent Owner Insists 'Integers' Do Not Include The Number One
from the patent-math dept
Patent trolls are a tax on innovation. The classic troll model doesn't include transferring technology to create new products. Rather, trolls identify operating companies and demand payment for what companies are already doing. Data from Unified Patents shows that, for the first half of this year, patent trolls filed 90% of the patent cases against companies in the high-tech sector.Core Wireless Licensing S.A.R.L. is one of the patent trolls attacking the high-tech sector. Core Wireless is incorporated in Luxemburg, and is a subsidiary of an even larger troll, Canada-based Conversant. It owns a number of patents that were originally filed by Nokia. It has been asserting some of these patents in the Eastern District of Texas. In one case, a jury recently found that Apple did not infringe five of Core Wireless's patents. In another case, it is asserting eighteen patents against LG. One of its arguments in the LG case came to our attention as an example of what patent trolls think they can get away with.
In patent litigation, patent owners and alleged infringers often disagree about the meaning of words in patent claims and ask the court to resolve the differences (a process known as "claim construction"). In Core Wireless' case against LG, the majority of the disputes seem like usual ones in terms of patent litigation.
Except for the dispute about "integer."
You may have learned what an "integer" was in high school. It's a common concept many teenagers learn about when they take algebra. In Ontario, Canada, for example (where Conversant is based), teachers discuss integers in the 9th and 10th grades. As defined in the Ontario Curriculum, an integer is: "Any one of the numbers . . . , –4, –3, –2, –1, 0, +1, +2, +3, +4, . . . " Here's a PBSMathClub video with a helpful explanation:
It's pretty clear what an "integer" is. Here are a few more definitions from various sources, all confirming the same thing: "integers" are all of the whole numbers, whether positive or negative, including 0.
But Core Wireless, the patent owner, told the court that an "integer" is "a whole number greater than 1." Core Wireless is saying that not only are negative numbers not integers, neither are 0 or 1.
This is preposterous.
As one mathematician told us:
The integers are the natural numbers (whole numbers greater than zero), their negatives, and the number zero (very important). So saying that the integers are all whole numbers greater than one is a bit like saying that sweet and sour chicken is just sour sauce because you're missing its negative, and the chicken, which is very important. Or that a turducken is just turkey: we all know that the duck and the chicken are essential.
To be clear: the law allows patent applicants to redefine words if they want. But the law also says they have to be clear that they are doing that (and in any event, they shouldn't be able to do it years after the patent issues, in the middle of litigation). In Core Wireless' patent, there is no indication that it used the word "integer" to mean anything other than what we all learn in high school. (Importantly, the word "integer" doesn't appear in the patent anywhere other than in the claims.)
It appears that Core Wireless is attempting to redefine a word—a word the patent applicant freely chose—because presumably otherwise its lawsuit will fail. The Supreme Court has long disapproved of this kind of game playing. Back in 1886, it wrote:
Some persons seem to suppose that a claim in a patent is like a nose of wax which may be turned and twisted in any direction, by merely referring to the specification, so as to make it include something more than, or something different from, what its words express.
Just last year, the Supreme Court issued an opinion in a case called Nautilus v. Biosig Instruments emphasizing that patent claims must describe the invention with "reasonable certainty." Using a word with a well-known and precise definition, like "integer," and then insisting that this word means something else entirely is the very antithesis of reasonable certainty.
We hope the district court applies long-standing Supreme Court law and doesn't allow Core Wireless to invent a new meaning for "integer." Patent claims are supposed to provide notice to public. The public should not be forced to guess what meaning the patent owner might later invent for the claims, on penalty of infringement damages.
Ultimately, this is just one baseless argument in a bigger case. But it reveals a deeper problem with the patent litigation system. A patent owner wouldn't argue that "integer" doesn't include the number one unless it thought it might get away with it. The Patent Office and lower courts need to diligently apply the Supreme Court's requirement that claims be clear. We also need legislative reform to discourage parties from making frivolous arguments because they think they can get away with it. This should include venue reform to prevent trolls from clustering in the troll-friendly Eastern District of Texas.
Republished from the Electronic Frontier Foundation Deeplinks blog.
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The Number 1
... wait .. nevermind .. my head just exploded
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Don't be so hard on Core Wireless
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And not having an opinion is also not an option.
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Only if you give them to them incrementally.
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What about i^2?
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If someone falsifies their high school grades to get into a university, would it invalidate the degree they got there due to not being there at all except for fraud?
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Reading the argument...
I really don't know how this is all relevant to the lawsuit, nor how much an "implied meaning" is worth in a trial, but the basic idea is that they don't seem to say "an integer is a whole number greater than 1", but "this specific value is an integer strictly greater than 1".
It might be poorly worded in the patent application, but it's not exactly wrong here. I really hope the whole suit doesn't hang on this "definition", otherwise I'd be pretty much siding with the troll, as much as I don't like it.
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Negative, zero, and single multiples don't make any sense in most cases.
But Anonymous Coward could have a point: If the context is very mathematical you are allowed to use them, and it should have been clarified.
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If LG have (re)created a system where values less than 2 do work (rather than just rejecting or modifying values under 2), then it is arguably a different system. If they haven't, but are arguing the validity because of an overly abbreviated description, then I think they're being unfairly picky. Spirit of the law vs the word, etc. (Not arguing in favour of the laws here).
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All the troll is saying is that the expert in the field (who the patent is aimed at) would understand that anything less than 2 wouldn't work, or contradicts other parts of the description, and would work it out for themselves. It doesn't seem that unreasonable.
In the (understandable) rush to point and laugh at a troll, this post seems to me to be excessively one-sided in relation to the main point. It makes me wonder if I should be more skeptical about other posts here, but that would take effort.
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As noted in the post, you can define your own terms in a patent application. But you have to be explicit about what you're doing, and that you're not using the term in its ordinary sense. Also, you have to be explicit at the time you FILE the patent application, because the patent specification has to have a clear statement that you're redefining a term. You can't even do it a couple of months later when the patent is already pending.
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The Bill Clinton school of law?
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did the train really exist?
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Maybe lawyers don't go to grammar school?
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Integer, Infringer, what's the difference?
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They're not integers
Negative numbers aren't integers either, because they don't exist. Have you ever made a profit of -$50m? Of course not. And why not? Because negative numbers don't exist. That is, instead of -$50m profit, you instead have a $50m loss. See? No negative numbers!
Corollary: A patent on negative numbers does exist.
Finally, positive numbers also aren't integers. They're interchangeably either numerals or digits. This distinction is important, because it meant a company could apply for one patent on numerals and one patent on digits, and sue competitors for infringing both patents.
Patent troll logic FTW!
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So what happens?
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Good thing no one ever patented the number zero
9+9=17.. not in this world!
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So yes, it's clear from the language of the patent that they're talking about an integer n where n is greater than 1.
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If that actually is true it's one of the most idiotic laws ever and must be scrapped immediately.
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Number One is not an integer
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After having written the above, I had to ask myself, could Number One be Q? or QT?
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One is the loneliest number
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I don't think the EFF is being honest here
But arguing about n=0 and n
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If this wasn't from EFF I'd say "Welcome to the wonders of intellectual property!".
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The trolled are trolling the trolls while the EFF cries about the number one.
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