FBI Tests The Waters On Another Attempt To Force Apple To Unlock An iPhone
from the not-this-again dept
Earlier this year, as you recall, there were two big cases in which the DOJ and FBI sought to force Apple to make significant technological changes to iPhone software in order to allow the DOJ to brute force the passcode on some iPhones used by some criminals. Eventually, after Apple (and others) pushed back, and public opinion was turning against the FBI, the DOJ miraculously announced that it found its way into both iPhones and the cases were dropped. But the issue of forcing companies (and Apple especially) to backdoor their way into encrypted iPhones certainly has not been dropped. And it appears that the FBI may be testing the waters to see if it can try again.You may recall the knife attack in a Minnesota mall last month that wounded 10 individuals. The attacker, Dahir Adan, was shot and killed by an off-duty police officer. The FBI is still investigating and guess what? Adan had an iPhone. And it's locked.
Thornton said the Federal Bureau of Investigation is still investigating Adan's activities and wants access to his cell phone."Technical options" meaning if any of the previously obtained methods will work to break in... and "legal" options as in going back to court to try, once again, to abuse the All Writs Act to force Apple to create backdoored code. Stay tuned...
"Dahir Adan's iPhone is locked and we are in the process of assessing our legal and technical options to gain access to this device and the data it may contain," Thornton said.
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Filed Under: all writs act, dahir adan, doj, encryption, fbi, going dark, iphone
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“Because that evidence is so sorely needed in order to secure a conviction...
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Because that evidence is so sorely needed in order to secure a conviction...
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But Dahir Adan is dead.
What difference at this point does it make?
Oh wait, that's what Hillary said about her dead ambassador.
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None.
Just like before.
Think you missed the sarcasm while you were rabidly trying to tie this somehow to Hillary Clinton.
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Where is the "sad but true" button?
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Not bored, opportunistic
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Ahem.
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But because of the DCMA...
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Would not be the first time a US based company has been forced to break the law because they have been ordered to by the courts.
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Why is it that NOBODY CAN CHALLENGE their lack of jurisdiction, but if the situation was reversed, the first thing the government files is a challenge saying nobody has standing to sue them?
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The next step...
Then what does the FBI do?
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Ask for any and all. Doesn't make any difference that there may be more than one.
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The FBI isn't this stupid
In this case they would be investigating police misconduct (a case guaranteed to put the public more on edge than, say, a terrorism case). The only people who would feel "threatened" by this case are those minorities who worry about getting shot by the police -- not the most supportive group. And there is no colorable argument that the victim's cell phone might lead to knowledge that would protect lives; at best it might help to exonerate the murderer.
Furthermore, the previous case is still relatively fresh in the minds of citizens and legislators, including the resolution of that case (turned out the FBI was making a mountain out of a molehill, could resolve it without Apple's help, and that the phone didn't reveal any helpful information after all).
I don't believe the FBI is foolish enough to press this case in court.
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It's an easy mistake to make around here sometimes, but double-check the author next time. Tim Cushing did not write this one.
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Use better terminology
In the previous FBI vs Everyone's Security battle, the FIB proved that it was able to get an individual phone unlocked. Even after it claimed it had exhausted all possible measures.
So why should they be believed this time.
PLEASE DON'T say the FBI wants to force Apple to unlock THIS phone.
The FBI wants to force Apple to build a tool, that can unlock ALL phones, without supervision. Even if it means Apple needs to re-design their phone's security mechanisms. That is what this battle is about. And that's the way it needs to be stated.
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No, they claimed to have paid an exorbitant sum to get the phone unlocked. Since there was no "useful" info (again according to the *FIB* - typo or intentional pun?), no one that I heard undertook the pointless pain in the ass of filing an FOIA request for the purportedly un-useful info. FIB (can't resist) made their wild claim about paying Comey's salary and change to unlock the phone, but nothing substantive about contents.
"The FBI wants to force Apple to build a tool, that can unlock ALL phones, without supervision."
THAT, exactly that!
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DAMNED IF YOU DO, DAMNED IF YOU DON'T
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The FBI is a known bad actor AND a rogue agency.
(Without Apple's help opening iPhone backdoors, the TPM tech has been cracked since 2010. It's just delicate and expensive.)
At this point, the only reason to willingly help the feds is following a sufficiently substantial bribe.
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That sounds a lot like the way the mob operates. Once you get in bed with them, you never get out.
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Budget the debt
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Re: Someone has to erase the evidence te kid was being set up
In these cases, like Omar Mateen 'on the radar' for years, or Gavin Long, who claimed he was followed and stalked for years, etc- it is virtually guaranteed that these guys are on a short leash to LEO's who operate in the shadows, harassing and manipulating them.
I bet even a good journalist would find that this kid-a security guard like Omar Mateen- likely applied for a gun permit from that off-duty cop ( who is an arms dealer), or another LEO who he knows. Then, they harassed the kid mercilessly.
Minnesota is an interesting study in these quasi-official organized stalking'scenarios. Many reporters have sued because LEO's there misuse drivers databases. One reporter-Jessica Miles-had 88 different police departments doing drive-bys in front of her house.
Another reporter there, Alix Kendall sued for similar reasons.
In many/all of these cases, these guys are harassed for years, with one agency or another trying to get them to become informants, or to just harass them to make the timecard look full. The Intercept covered that last week.
Who wants to bet this is what it is?
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