Techdirt Podcast Episode 160: Overreacting To Facebook's Mistakes Won't Solve Anything
from the but-they-aren't-blameless-either dept
Facebook. Cambridge Analytica. Need I say more? There's plenty to discuss. Among them is the question of similarities between what happened and the Obama campaign — which is why we're lucky to be joined this week by Catherine Bracy, who led the Obama campaign's San Francisco tech office, and worked on its Facebook app, for a discussion about what really went down with Cambridge Analytica, and all the misinformation that's out there.
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They weren't mistakes
Every action that Facebook has ever taken has been driven by the ego of sociopath Mark Zuckerberg. He's a monster. He's evil to the bone. And the only thing in this world that he cares about is Mark Zuckerberg. When you understand and accept this, you will realize that it completely and perfectly explains Facebook.
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Every action that Facebook has ever taken has been driven by the ego of sociopath Mark Zuckerberg. He's a monster. He's evil to the bone.
Yeah. See, this is the kind of ridiculous overreaction that will lead to bad results. This is the very thing we're talking about.
Facebook has made lots of dumb decisions, but to immediately jump to "and thus he is evil to the bone" is not a serious critique and provides only one bit of useful information: that whoever said it is foolish.
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Breaches like that are intrinsic to Facebook's entire business model and Facebook's entire technical architecture... which is the same business model and the same technical architecture that all the other "platforms" have.
If you collect the data in a central place, and let other centralized actors have access to them, then you WILL have failures like that. If I can give your "app" permission to process my data, and if your "app" can simultaneously have permission to talk directly to you or to any third party, then my data WILL eventually get misused.
That's independent of the good will or lack thereof of the people operating it, by the way. It just plain WILL fail constantly. It's broken by design. It can never work right.
The correct reaction is to completely dismantle the entire "platform-based" structure of social networking. All of it. Shutting down Facebook would be a good start.
I suspect that the things you're calling "overreaction" are a lot less extreme than that correct reaction...
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It's clear you have some kind of vested interest in seeing Facebook's practices continue. I think you owe it to your readers to tell them what that is.
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The Reaction
The posts by users read like a lynch mob. Players thought no real people got killed.
Result
Guy that designed The Honey Bee Control used that hardware as a weapon. Of course the nutter manifesto was about users acting like animals and there is a cost to that.
{spoiler ending hide}
Naturally the TV show is an extreme presentation making a point about human nature. Put a large number of people in the same space with no restraint on what is said like, "He's a monster. He's evil to the bone" can start the group running for virtual rope & tree. I really miss moderated forums.
"The Stone Age didn't end because we ran out of stones" - Nathan S. Lewis
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