GDPR Being Used To Try To Disappear Public US Court Docket

from the censorship-for-privacy dept

Way back when the GDPR was still under consideration, we were among those who warned that, in the name of "protecting privacy," Europe was about to create a tool for massive censorship by encapsulating a massive "right to be forgotten." As we noted at the time, a big part of the problem was that the GDPR was written by privacy and data protection experts, with little to no consideration given to free speech experts, who could have told the drafters how "right to be forgotten" rules would likely be abused. The basic idea behind them seems sound -- allowing people to delete data from services they no longer use -- but the ability to turn that into a tool to take down public information is a real problem.

And, now that the GDPR is official, we're already seeing it in practice. Aaron Greenspan, from Plainsite -- a site that hosts court dockets -- recently noted that he had received a RTBF demand from a guy named Michael Francois Bujaldon, who was seeking to disappear a docket involving a case in which Bujualdon was sued for real estate and securities fraud. The complaint against Bujaldon is fairly damning, and while Bujaldon tried to get the case dismissed, the court was not at all impressed. The current docket suggests that the parties are attempting to work out a settlement, but having yourself be a defendant accused of real estate and securities fraud can't be good for the old reputation.

Never fear, however, for the GDPR has a Right to be Forgotten in it, and Bujaldon is apparently using it to delete his own name from the dockets for which he is a defendant:

If you cannot read that request, it says:

Hi,
under Article 21.1 of the General Regulations on Data Protection (RGPD) transcribing European Regulation 2106-679 and updating the provisions of Law 78-17 of 6 January 1978, known as "Informatique et Libert" amended in 2004 (Law 2004-575 on Trust in the Digital Economy - LCEN), which Article 6 | 2 provides that "any information relating to an identified natural person or which can be identified, directly or indirectly, by reference to an identification number or one or more elements specific to that person shall constitute personal data",
I thank you for deleting my personal data, which is my first and last name Michael Franois BUJALDON on this page:

https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/30qmdbpgl/north-dakota-district-court/chabert-et-al-v-bujaldon-et-al/

Please see attached my ID card.

Regards,
Michael Francois BUJALDON

PD: this website has removed this content yet: https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/17818391/Chabert_et_al_v_Bujaldon_et_al

So, first, you can feel free to highlight the fact that BUJALDON misspelled his own name in the part where he asks that his name be deleted (he left the c out of Francois). But it does appear to be the case that Pacer Monitor deleted the entire docket for Bujaldon, not just his name. If you go to that link you get:

Which... is pretty damn messed up. This is a public court docket regarding a case accusing Bujaldon of serious fraud. That's not just public information, but it's the kind of information that people clearly want to be public. Yet, Bujaldon has been able to get it shot down the memory hole thanks to the GDPR, and Pacer Monitor has complied and disappeared the entire docket.

While Greenspan clearly didn't want to similarly comply, he later notes that his hosting company forced him to remove Bujaldon's name, and replace it with his initials or else it would suspend his server:

So, now the docket on PlainSite looks like this:

Plainsite's Aaron Greenspan told me that his hosting company, Hetzner, is based in Germany, so perhaps they feel more exposed to GDPR requests, no matter how nonsensical. He also shared with me his email exchange with Hetzner. The company doesn't even seem to want to consider the possibility that the takedown request was illegitimate. Not only does it demand he take Bujaldon's name down within 24 hours, it demands a statement "about how this could have happened and what you intend to do about it."

What?

Someone totally abuses the GDPR's Right to be Forgotten to try to delete evidence of an ongoing lawsuit against himself, and the hosting company's first reaction is to assume that the site is at fault and demand an explanation? And an explanation of how "what" happened? Plainsite is just hosting a federal court docket. It didn't do anything wrong, so why is Hetzner acting as if the site must have done something wrong?

Looking around the web, other sources still have Bujaldon's full name in their dockets -- such as at Justia, Law360 and CourtListener, but one wonders if Bujaldon will seek to target them as well.

This is, quite obviously, an abuse of the GDPR to delete public information (information where it's fairly important that it be public) to hide reputation harming information. Some defenders of the GDPR may argue that since this is an abuse of the GDPR, we shouldn't really blame the GDPR for this result, but rather blame Bujaldon for abusing it, or the various internet companies for caving to his bogus demands. However, this is exactly what free speech experts were warning would happen when the "data protection" experts in the EU insisted that these rules would be fine. They refused to listen, and now we're at the point where important information is actually being censored.

Even worse, we're increasingly hearing talk of exporting the GDPR to the United States, and creating a similar set of rules here, as if they won't be aggressively abused to hide important information like this, as well.

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  • icon
    Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 21 Sep 2018 @ 12:02pm

    Three things

    First, Mr. Greenspan should find another hosting company. One based in the US.

    Second, wouldn't a GDPR type program in the US violate the 1st Amendment? Whose speech could be considered more important, the person posting the docket or the person with butt hurt from the docket post. Both are equally important, and the only solution is more speech, not constitutional violations. Then what will this joker do when he loses the case? Deny, deny, deny (it is speech) only brings one to da Nile (alternatively denial). Will he try to take down his denials as well?

    Third, the Streisand effect has made him more famous than he ever wanted. Good to know it has value other than mirth.

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      Thad (profile), 21 Sep 2018 @ 12:48pm

      Re: Three things

      Second, wouldn't a GDPR type program in the US violate the 1st Amendment?

      Yes.

      Though if such a law were to pass, it might take awhile before the courts threw it out.

      Some people (including Our Generous Host) have compared the recent California Consumer Privacy Act to the GDPR. Expect to see it struck down by the courts, at least in part.

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        Anonymous Coward, 15 Feb 2019 @ 11:16am

        Re: Re: Three things

        No because posting people’s legal documents on the Internet out of pure money making and greed has absolutely nothing to do with the First Amendment. This is a violation of people privacy and hinders people from finding gainful and well paying employment.

        What’s more important? One lazy bum controlling millions of people’s legal Cases and the posting them online to make money without working for a living, or the millions of people who are being negatively affected by these greedy data mining website owners.

        All the private individuals who are accessing the public’s legal documents and then making money off of this should be shut down. These people are hiding behind the First Amendmenr but what they are doing is greedy, selfish and inconsiderate to real people who are looking for real jobs.

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      Anonymous Holly, 23 Sep 2018 @ 7:08pm

      Re: Three things

      Aaron Greenspan should simply shut down his entire plainsite.org site and find an honest way to make a living. People like this talk about "Free Speech" so they can get their way and make an easy living off of people's legal documents but they do not like it when people speak up and out them for all their wrongdoing of ruining people's careers and reputations. Remember these are Americans exploiting our Freedoms in the United States to make a living off off the backs of people who have to make a living by getting up everyday and going to work to make a living. Aaron Greenspan just sits back behind a computer, downloads legal documents from the Free Law Project, run by Mike Lissner and Brian Carver who pays themselves hefty salaries with their 501(c)(3)'s.

      In the United States we already have Pacer and Pacer does not go around exposing people's legal documents all over the Internet, like plainsite.org does.

      Think about this logically. Does it make any sense at all that an individual can make lots of money by downloading and uploading the public's legal documents and then exposing people's names all over the Internet and as a consequence so many people are losing their jobs, cannot find a job and are having their reputations ruined. What's really sick is that this individual Aaron Greenspan goes around talking about his rights and his First Amendment, as if the First Amendment was only designed for his plainsite.org to exploit people's legal information for his personal greed and profit making.

      One has to truthfully ask themselves and be honest about it: How can an American do these things to other Americans, by exploiting their legal documents and throwing these legal documents all over the Internet for their selfish greed and money making schemes, under the guise of "Freedom of Speech", or "The First Amendment". We all know full well that everything has a limit and once plainsite.org willfully damaged people's careers and reputations just to make some easy money, as hundreds if not thousands of people all across the United States are being negatively affected and Aaron Greenspan is fully aware that what he is doing is wrong but does not care. Its all about Aaron Greenspan getting that money.

      All of thes legal document exploitation websites should be shut down if they do not honor a request for immediate removal from people who are hurting with their careers and reputations.

      At least the website court listener.com does honor take down requests. Aaron Greenspan has gone in to the URL's form courtlistener.com and has altered their URL's by using his coding and hacking skills to try and make these URL's that are not his permanent on the Search Engines. Aaron Greenspan is changing these URL's to read as "archive.is" and other hacking that he is doing.

      Think about this individual Aaron Greenspan, he just cannot leave people alone and will do whatever it takes even if its illegal to try and keep a person's personal legal documents on the Search Engines. Aaron Greenspan is unreasonable as a person and because of people like Aaron Greenspan these take downs of URL's will start to become much more frequent and immediate because Aaron Greenspan just cannot stop abusing the public to make his easy money.

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        That One Guy (profile), 23 Sep 2018 @ 11:59pm

        Re: Re: Three things

        Someone sure seems to be obsessing over the guy in the comment section of this article, I wonder who could have reason to be so focused on him and/or a site that hosts court documents that certain individuals would apparently prefer not be public despite being court documents...

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        Anonymous Coward, 24 Sep 2018 @ 2:15am

        Re: Re: Three things

        So, having your illegal activities known make it hard to continue them, but then that is a benefit to society.

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        DeComposer (profile), 25 Sep 2018 @ 1:34pm

        Re: Re: Three things

        Methinks she doth protest too much....

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      Keene promotionds, 3 Oct 2018 @ 11:21pm

      Re: Three things

      Aaron Geenspan is psycho. Aaron Greenspan is a pathological liar who lies without effort. Aaron Greenspan Is someone for whom telling a lie comes more naturally than telling the truth. Its part of Aaron Greenspan everyday life, to the point where their whole existence is a fabrication. For example, Aaron Greenspan was able to fool people into thinking he invented facebook.
      This all roots to Aaron Greenspan childhood trauma growing up in shaker Heights ohio. Aaron Greenspan didnt have any friends . No one liked him. Not even his twin brother Simon Greenspan. Aaron Greenspan is very insecure individual raised by very authoritative and strict parents who were not excepting of Aaron Greenspan haveing Asperger’s syndrome. Therefore Aaron Greenspan had to create a persona that was lovable and acceptable by Judi keene Greenspan and Dr. Neil S. Greenspan to avoid punishment, embarrassment, and vulnerability.

      Pathological lying is very difficult to treat there isn’t hope for Aaron Greenspan. Aaron Jacob Greenspan’s brother Simon Greenspan is autistic as well and has caused huge disturbances in shaker heights Ohio neighborhoods. Aaron Greenspan is a big supporter of the 2nd amendment and brags about a gun. The 2 should not mix. This is insane how one crazy white guy is able to own so much free data and also own a gun.
      Aaron Jacob Greenspan is a ticking time bomb. This white guy grew up very wealthy. Judi Greenspan owns Keene promotions and Neil Greenspan is a dr professor at case western reserve university

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        Anonymous Coward, 4 Oct 2018 @ 12:32am

        Re: Re: Three things

        Well, there's certainly something pathological going on here, but I'm not sure it's all Mr. Greenspan's fault.

        Are you working for that gentleman, and trying to perform such an extreme parody of his actual opponents that nobody will take them seriously when they do speak up? If so, bravo for the effective performance.

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      Anonymous Coward, 15 Feb 2019 @ 11:09am

      Re: Three things

      Aaron Greenspan needs to go and get a real job and get his hands dirty for once, instead of living off of people’s legal documents and dirty laundry l.

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    Gary (profile), 21 Sep 2018 @ 12:12pm

    ISP

    And also weird how the ISP is putting the pressure on the website. It's almost as if there should be some law to limit intermediary liability...

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    Anonymous Coward, 21 Sep 2018 @ 12:24pm

    Oh, I see how it is, the margins on this page is also in EUs purview.
    *<:)

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    Anonymous Coward, 21 Sep 2018 @ 12:25pm

    DRAMA!

    Yeah no.
    They should have just laughed at his silly request.

    Information like this is well covered by the exceptions of "You must erase everything about me" in article "I can't be bothered to look it up" so the request deserves only ridicule.

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    Anon E Mouse, 21 Sep 2018 @ 12:26pm

    Margins ate the text. Please do the needful.

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    Leigh Beadon (profile), 21 Sep 2018 @ 12:39pm

    Sorry about the text issue folks! Fixed now.

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    DB (profile), 21 Sep 2018 @ 1:21pm

    I wonder if Michael Francois Bujaldon has managed to eliminate the name Michael Francois Bujaldon from being mentioned in relation to a lawsuit with Michael Francois Bujaldon as a party.

    I doubt that Michael Francois Bujaldon has accomplished his goal. Certainly someone searching for Michael Francois Bujaldon will find articles mentioning Michael Francois Bujaldon or at least comments talking about the Michael Francois Bujaldon lawsuit.

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      lawyer, 24 Sep 2018 @ 6:05am

      Re:

      Say his name again so that its be on forst google result! His live totally ruined, oh what a pleasure, what a benefit! Hmmm I am so excited!

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    That One Guy (profile), 21 Sep 2018 @ 1:42pm

    "As you can see my record is spotless."

    Someone totally abuses the GDPR's Right to be Forgotten to try to delete evidence of an ongoing lawsuit against himself,

    Hardly a wonder politicians were so gung-ho for the law given it can be used for this, the ability to wipe evidence of ongoing legal action against someone would be extremely useful for any politician or would-be politician who wants to disappear a few damning bits of evidence to clean up their image in time for election day.

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      Anonymous Coward, 21 Sep 2018 @ 2:05pm

      Re: "As you can see my record is spotless."

      The interesting thing about your argument is that it doesn't even matter if the content is eventually reinstated on challenge: that challenge will take time, and so if they time it correctly, they can disappear all the evidence until after the election is over. And there's no recourse.

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    Glenn, 21 Sep 2018 @ 2:17pm

    Since when did the EU ever believe in freedom of speech? GDPR is the natural state there.

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    NeghVar (profile), 21 Sep 2018 @ 2:18pm

    Criminal records

    Are criminal records susceptible to this too?

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      Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 21 Sep 2018 @ 2:35pm

      Re: Criminal records

      I haven't read the GDPR regs (I don't live in Europe so not directly effected) but from what I have read, I wouldn't see why not. For that matter, I wouldn't be surprised if the Holocaust gets redacted and France won WWI and WWII, Bonaparte turns out to be a good guy.

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    lucidrenegade (profile), 21 Sep 2018 @ 3:32pm

    They should have changed his name in the documents to "this asshole", which was a link to his Facebook page or something.

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      lawyer, 24 Sep 2018 @ 6:03am

      Re:

      Yes! Long live denunciation!

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  • identicon
    Christenson, 21 Sep 2018 @ 4:40pm

    RTBF dyslexia

    Why does RTBF sound so much like
    RTFM — Read The Fucking Manual?

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      Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 21 Sep 2018 @ 5:11pm

      Re: RTBF dyslexia

      Because they are both extemporaneous, unnecessary, self aggrandizing, and puerile?

      Now if manuals actually made sense??

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        Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 21 Sep 2018 @ 5:34pm

        Re: Re: RTBF dyslexia

        I should add, working with a software development company (early 1980'S) that was writing back end software (Accounting type stuff and some more) for an existing POS (point of sale terminal) we got involved as Alpha testers, and with that unusual access to the development team. Back then, what the held did I know?

        But it came to pass that the first manual, the one for accounts payable, was not just good, it was really great. The next manual to come out (I forget which it was, but it was not discernible to any rational English language speaker) we were less than pleased.

        Speaking with the owner of the software development company I was told that he had gone out of his way to find a computer illiterate technical writer to write the manuals. The problems was that he wound up living in the environment, and he learned. That learning came out in the second manual, and the owner could not see his way to firing his technical writer because he knew too much.

        To this day, problematical or not, I see tech manual writers as knowing too much, when they should also know everything. Knowing too much means they can't explain it to Joe blow (the quintessential computer know nothing), and knowing everything (what actually happens when you install it in x and y and z environments, etc.) which might mean there is no need for a support department (given a certain quantum license for exaggeration). In some cases that might mean a savings, in others an opportunity for continuing revenue, and in others having customers who know enough to sue you.

        Personally I would rather manuals make sense, for Joe blow, but have appendices that work for not just the rest of us, but for those who actually know what they are doing.

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    Bergman (profile), 21 Sep 2018 @ 8:14pm

    GDPR and National Sovereignty

    I'm waiting for someone to try to use GDPR to disappear an actual government website. There's a technical diplomatic term for one government trying to extend its laws into another government's territory that way: casus belli.

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    Anonymous Coward, 21 Sep 2018 @ 9:47pm

    The US courts are not subject to GDPR. The US court system only has to obey US laws.

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      Anonymous Coward, 22 Sep 2018 @ 5:11pm

      Re:

      Which is why this only affected a website with a copy of the docket.

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    Someone, 21 Sep 2018 @ 11:32pm

    Intent to harm

    I only read malice. We are here in the presence of sneering little inquisitors. Know that not everything that is PUBLIC is PUBLIC. So according to you, when someone has been convicted, they can no longer live? He can no longer find a job, his name must be dirty? Someone advised this site to be hosted in the US so as not to undergo the RGPD but in the US there are still other laws, the First Amendment does not allow everything. For if everyone has the right to freely express their thoughts and opinions, misrepresentation, distortion, manifest negligence in verifying information and, finally, violation of the honour and consideration of natural persons and companies constitute an abuse of freedom of expression and may bring civil proceedings for compensation in interest. Learn that publishing private correspondence is illegal in any country. And using this correspondence by displaying the person's name through malicious intent establishes manifest intent to harm and is condemnable in almost all states.

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    Someone, 21 Sep 2018 @ 11:36pm

    Intent to harm (2)

    Know that not everything that is PUBLIC is PUBLISHABLE, I meant to say

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    Someone, 21 Sep 2018 @ 11:45pm

    Intent to harm (2)

    Finally: once a judgment has been handed down, there is no longer any need for evidence. The publication of the names of the bad guys, very Far West American (reward) has no public interest, either the person is in prison if he is dangerous and if he is not, he pays and then he has the right to fucking live. What is this unhealthy desire to destroy people, to prevent them from continuing their lives, to pillory them forever by affixing their names and misdeeds? Do you have an ounce of Christian charity? You value your freedom in the US but you only like the freedom to publish everything and anything about anyone to achieve your goals. And your purpose is to mark the word "thief" on the heads of thieves with a red iron and forever. You have that dirty, vengeful, completely disloyal mercenary mentality.

    Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator

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    Anonymous Coward, 22 Sep 2018 @ 7:34am

    Re: Intent to harm (2)

    It isn't a matter of intend but of free speech.


    You have a free speech right to republish information once in the public record, or that's least the binding interpretation of the First Amendment.

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      lawyer, 24 Sep 2018 @ 6:01am

      Re: Re: Intent to harm (2)

      NO, because citizen has some right ON THE WEB.
      All that is public is not publishable.
      indeed, the truth, the facts are concerning justice and police and journalists. Not the web by anyone want to report a fact.
      There is the right to anonymisation and the right to live in dignity.
      You can propage fake news and tell that you like to masturbate but if you harm your neighboor dignity, you can be convicted for penal crime...
      Regards,

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    Anonymous Coward, 22 Sep 2018 @ 7:42am

    Re: Intent to harm

    There is no right to honor under the Constitution, in the sense of being protected against the publication or republication of publicly known facts.


    The fact and circumstances of a criminal indictment, civil case is a matter of public record, and can't be squelched just because society wants to allow criminals or suspects to clean their reputation.


    This does not mean that the government can't be forced to expunge the record of a criminal conviction but citizens have no duty not to mention facts.

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      lawyer, 24 Sep 2018 @ 5:57am

      Re: Re: Intent to harm

      False.
      Citizen has some right ON THE WEB.
      All that is public is not publishable.
      indeed, the truth, the facts are concerning justice and police. Not the web.
      Regards,

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      lawyer, 24 Sep 2018 @ 5:59am

      Re: Re: Intent to harm

      False.
      Citizen has some right ON THE WEB.
      All that is public is not publishable.
      indeed, the truth, the facts are concerning justice and police and journalists. Not the web by anyone want to report a fact.
      There is the right to anonymisation and the right to live in dignity.
      Regards,

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    football, 23 Sep 2018 @ 9:35am

    freenet

    To people hosting this type of content, just dump it all on freenet. Redact the version on your regular server and put in a link to the full info on freenet.

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      lawyer, 24 Sep 2018 @ 6:02am

      Re: freenet

      Great! We could kill people like this. I am so glad. Thank you.

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    Anonymous Hollly, 23 Sep 2018 @ 5:35pm

    People in the United States who are making their living off of other people's misery and dirty laundry, i.e. legal documents are out of their minds, as they use our First Amendment to justify their self serving greedy behaviors. You cannot go around destroying people's careers and reputation and just tra, la , la, and pretend that its all A-OK under the First Amendment, while people loose their jobs and their reputations. To the people who are doing this uploading of the public's legal documents for your selfish greed this is just absolutely disgusting and illegal in most countries of the world. This abuse needs to stop by the individuals who are taking for granted and taking advantage of our freedoms in the United States.

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    Anonymous Coward, 24 Sep 2018 @ 3:42am

    Dear Collections Agent

    Hi,
    under Article 21.1 of the General Regulations on Data Protection (RGPD) transcribing European Regulation 2106-679 and updating the provisions of Law 78-17 of 6 January 1978, known as "Informatique et Libert" amended in 2004 (Law 2004-575 on Trust in the Digital Economy - LCEN), which Article 6 | 2 provides that "any information relating to an identified natural person or which can be identified, directly or indirectly, by reference to an identification number or one or more elements specific to that person shall constitute personal data", I thank you for deleting my personal data

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    truth is not humiliating people, 24 Sep 2018 @ 6:11am

    listen to me fuckin bastard, in Europe, we lived under nazi opresion, we have lived with denunciation and we don't want it again.
    You seem to confuse between "evidence" and revenge. This guy has been convicted because of the evidences, this is justice.
    Publish it on the web is not publish "evidence" cause the evidence has already been considered.
    What you are doing is just self justice, revenge and humiliation...
    Truth is not humiliating people, truth is the court decision, not what you say with it afterwards. Like coward, like damned mother fuckers.
    God will know how to recognize the humble and gentle in heart

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    truth is not humiliating people, 24 Sep 2018 @ 6:13am

    honnor and truth

    TOTAL RESPECT:

    People in the United States who are making their living off of other people's misery and dirty laundry, i.e. legal documents are out of their minds, as they use our First Amendment to justify their self serving greedy behaviors. You cannot go around destroying people's careers and reputation and just tra, la , la, and pretend that its all A-OK under the First Amendment, while people loose their jobs and their reputations. To the people who are doing this uploading of the public's legal documents for your selfish greed this is just absolutely disgusting and illegal in most countries of the world. This abuse needs to stop by the individuals who are taking for granted and taking advantage of our freedoms in the United States.

    MANY THANKS

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    Angry old man, 24 Sep 2018 @ 10:27am

    Bloody stupid law

    The GDPR is a brilliant example of a well intended law that wasn't thought through entirely. As an individual, I love the fact that all I need to do to stop spam like mail from overly chatty companies is to say stop it and quote GDPR - the results are impressively quick. But even without the abuse of the law like this, the unintended consequences are awful. It feels as if each week, I run into an increasingly large number of, mostly US, websites that block users from the EU. It is as if the MPAA sold the EU on its greatest invention, geo-blocking and the EU decided that it wasn't enough....

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    Eddie, 29 Sep 2018 @ 11:41am

    Aarron Greenspan a Greedy Insane Sociopath

    Aaron Greenspan is downloading all of his legal documents for free from the Free Law Project run by Mike Lissner who pays himself a $90,000 yearly salary and Brian Carver. These guys made a huge mistake allowing a known Serial Litigant, Jealous, Envious, Insane Sociopath access the public's legal documents in this manner in bulk, by being bribed with some monetary gifts, as they are a 501)c)(3).

    What the Free Law Project did by allowing a known Insane Sociopath Aaron Greenspan access to all these legal documents will come back to bite them, as this access is being abused like there is no tomorrow by Aaron Greenspan.

    GDPR was long overdue, as the public needs to have some safety and out of control Insane Sociopath's like Aaron Greenspan who have a total disregard for a person's career and reputation.

    What these individuals are doing under the guise of the First Amendment and Freedom of speech is nothing but a big scam and con. Its all about them making money and nothing else.

    Aaron Greenspan is running his plainsite.org with extremely bad intentions and at the same time keeps referring to Freedom of Speech. What's funny is Aaron Greenspan apparently believes that our Freedom of Speech was only designed for him and nobody else.

    Aaron Greenspan is doing a lot of illegal things. For example, this Insane Sociopath is running his monetized website plainsite.org under a fraudulent 501(c)(3)called Think Computer Foundation based out of Cleveland, Ohio and Think Computer Corporation based out of Delaware and that includes also Thinkling and many other monetized websites.

    This Insane Sociopath Aaron Greensapn goes around and gets private advertising for his monetized webite plainsite.org and at the same time this greedy low life charges the fools and suckers out there that pay this greedy bastard $9.99 to $99.99 a month as a subscription fee and he does not even let the subscribers download legal documents in bulk but this Sociopath sure does download the public's legal documents from The Free Law Project who also run website called courtlistener.com At least The Free Law Project does remove URL's when requested. Insane Sociopath Aaron Greenspan who belongs in a Mental Insitution actually uploads more URL's when one ask this scum bag to remove a URL.

    Because of this Insane Sociopath Aaron Greenspan the GDPR and Right to be Forgotten Laws will only get stronger and stronger and soon will be applied in the Untied States in full.

    We cannot have Abusive Stalkers who are Insane Sociopath's like Aaron Greenspan playing around with the public's legal documents under the guise of Freedom of Speech. This has nothing to do with Freedom of Speech that by the way Aaron Greenspan thinks that Freedom of Speech only applies to him and nobody else.

    The truth is that what Aaron Greenspan is doing to the public, by intentionally harming people's careers and reputations with the full intent to ruin people's lives all under this guise of Freedom of Speech, which we all know has absolutely nothing to do with Freedom of Speech, as people can simply sign up for an account at the Federal database Pacer and access all these legal documents at a fraction of the price and have peace of mind knowing that you are not later going to be abused or stalked by this Insane Sociopath Aaron Greenspan.

    Aaron Greenspan has a double standard and his abusive behavior to continue ruining people's lives with his monetized website plainsite.org will consequently result in these types of website being outlawed and they will all be shut down.

    Can one imaging just sitting back in one's chair with one's computer and making thousands of dollars per months by simply exposing the public's legal documents on the web and then to back this up rambles off about Freedom of Speech? Please! What this Insane Sociopath Aaron Greenspan is doing to thousands of people by ruining their careers and reputations has nothing to do with Freedom of Speech. Its has to do with intentional abuse and harm to ruin a person for motives of making easy money with all these legal document downloads.

    This Insane Sociopath rambles off about Freedom of Speech to justify his illegal and unethical behaviors but if that were the case, then why does this Insane Sociopath not want his pictures and negative comments up on the web? That's Freedom of Speech and its a two way street.

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    Judy, 29 Sep 2018 @ 11:56am

    Exactly because of this greedy criminal ass wipe Aaron Greenspan who refuses to remove legal documents when requested just so he can make some more money will be the reason that GDPR is coming to the United States. Its not even a question of if GFPR is coming to the United States its when its coming to the United States.

    As a Free country where people need to hold down a job and make a living and uphold their reputations, we cannot have people like Aaron Greenspan who is a fraud and criminal and a Hacker I might add to be able to access the public's legal documents for his pleasure and profit.

    Do not even sign up for any subscriptions with plainsite.rog and do not even think about asking him to do anything on his monetized website plainsite.org, as this Aaron Greenspan is data mining all of your information and that includes everything, IP addresses and every little detail about everyone who exposes themselves to this Insane Hacker. Do not give Aaron Greenspan one single penny and do not even open up any of the plainsite.org URL's because all your are doing is opening yourselves to be hacked and stalked by Aaron Greenspan. And you are also allowing this ahole Aaron Greenspan to make money by feeding in to his bs plainsite.org.

    Aaron Greenspan has fed the public lies for years and is fooling the public with is monetized website plainsite.org. Its best to not hand Aaron Greenspan one single penny and do not patronized his evil career destroying monetized website plainsite.org.

    GDPR is a real blessing and it will come to the United States very soon. Then this Sociopath Aaron Greenspan will have to live off of his parents or wash dishes for a living. Aaron Greenspan is unemployable, as he is a serious danger to himself and the public

    Aaron Greenspan belongs lcked up in a Mental Health Faciliy.

    We have been calling the Shaker Heights, Ohio Police on this Aaron Greenspan and his entire family for many years now. They appear to have Mental Illness run in their genes or something because they all stalk and are all Sociopath's.

    Hey this is my Freedom of Speech. How do you like this?

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    Elaine, 29 Sep 2018 @ 12:13pm

    Aaron Greenspan snitched Aaron Swartz out

    The US Court system and the United States has to remove URL's from the Search Engines when these URL's are being uploaded for nefarious purposes by private citizens who only have the goal of wanting to make money with the public's information. This is not allowed in any other country in the world.

    Now if one is not a United States Citizen and they come from a country that applies GDPR then the website's like plainsite.org need to immediately comply and remove that person's URL's when they request to have it removed. And they have to do it immediately. If Aaron Greenspan were living in the EU he would have been arrested and imprisoned a long time ago because Aaron Greenspan is using the Freedom of Speech to justify his criminal behaviors and let's not forget that Aaron Greenspan is well known HACKER.

    As a matter of fact Aaron Greenspan ratted Aaron Swartz out to the MIT Police about Aaron Swartz's upcoming hacking and downloading of all the MIT's information, as Aaron Swartz left his computer hooked up to the cables that accessed MIT's Servers to download all of this information, which was of course illegal but he was only caught because Aaron Greenspan snitched on him to the MIT Police before Aaron Swartz even initiated the hacking. The MIT Police along with the Feds had already set up a hidden camera in that storage room to get it all on video as Aaron Swartz hacked in to and downloaded MIT's sensitive information.

    Many people are wondering how is Aaron Greenspan getting away with everything that he is getting away with? Abusing people's privacy, ruining people's careers, reputations, lives, hacking all over the place, including in to foreign countries and a lot more illegal things?
    Well people are you really that stupid? Let me put it in plainsite for the public. Aaron Greenspan is working both sides of the fence and as he helped the MIT Police catch Aaron Swartz then went and did some sob speech in front of all of his family and friends when it was Aaron Greenspan who caused Aaron Swartz to get caught and charged. This is what Aaron Greenspan is doing all over the place he is working both sides of the fence and that's why the Feds have not arrested him yet.

    Aaron Greenspan is getting away with things that most people would never be able to get away with.
    Figure that one out?

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    Anonymous Coward, 29 Sep 2018 @ 12:35pm

    Because of this Insane Sociopath Aaron Greenspan GDPR will take hold and will start removing people's legal documents from the Search Engines.

    You cannot have an Insane Sociopath like Aaron Greenspan running the show and running people in to the ground, as they lose their careers and reputations, while he laughs all the way to the back.

    We need to be clear The First Amendment and Free Speech has nothing to do with what this Insane Sociopath Aaron Greenspan is doing to the public, as he stubbornly refuses to remove URL's when requested.

    Aaron Greenspan downloads all of his legal documents for free from the Free Law Project run by Mike Lissner who pays himself a $90,000 a year salary and his buddy Brian Carver. Both live and work out of San Francisco. Aaron Greenspan has scammed these guys by giving them monetary donations, in order to be allowed to download the public's legal documents in bulk. That was a huge mistake by Mike Lissner allowing a known Serial Litigant, Jealous, Envious, Insane Sociopath to access the public's legal documents, as Aaron Greenspan has had extremely bad inte

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    Anonymous Coward, 29 Sep 2018 @ 12:38pm

    Aaron Greenspan is one really nasty and ugly whatever he is? Is Aaron Greenspan even human? He looks like he comes from the Rat family.

    Freedom of Speech Baby! Freedom of Speech!

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    Anonymous Coward, 29 Sep 2018 @ 12:40pm

    GDPR needs to step it up and shut Sociopath's like Aaron Greenspan down.

    People who are making comments against GDPR are the ones who running these monetized websites like plainsite.org

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    Anonymous Coward, 29 Sep 2018 @ 12:59pm

    GDPR is long over due because of mental cases like Aaron Greenspan abusing the Freedoms we have in the United States to make easy money by exposing the public's dirty laundry, i.e. legal documents under the guise that he has a right to do it. Well, the public also has right to have their information removed, especially when an INSANE SOCIOPATH like Aaron Greenspan is going around and destroying people's careers and reputations so this low life, greedy pos can make his easy money under the guise of making the public's highly sensitive legal documents public and accessible.

    This is all a con job and a front by Aaron Greenspan who runs plainsite.org under a fraudulent 501(c)(3) to avoid paying taxes to the Federal and State Governments, all while he cashes in at the publi's expense.

    This Sociopath on top of going around and getting private advertising for his monetized website plainsite.org, actually charges the suckers and fools out there $9.99 to $99.99 as a subscription fee. Now this is over the top when it comes to being a scum greedy low life.

    Aaron Greenspan downloads his legal documents for FREE from The Free Law Project out of San Francisco and its runs mainly by Mike Lissner, who pays himself a $90,000 a year salary according to Aaron Greenspan and this too is under a 501(c)(3) and the other guys name is Brian Carver. Both live in San Francisco. Aaron Greenspan is extremely jealous and envious of The Free Law Project because he has to rely on these guys to gain access to all of his legal documents that he downloads in Bulk.

    Its really funny that this Ahole Sociopath Aaron Greenspan goes around downloading the public's legal documents for free and in bulk from the The Free Law Project but to even the suckers and fools that give this greedy ahole Socopath one dollar he does not allow anyone to download the legal documents from plainsite.org in bult. Aaron Greenspan is a total Sociopath who goes around on a daily basis criticizing and insulting Mark Zuckerber who is extremely normal compared to this sick STALKER and SOCIOPATH Aaron Greenspan.

    Aaron Greenspan give kickbacks in the form of monetary donations to the Free Law Project, in order to gain access to all these legal documents for free. We think that The Free Law Project is acting irresponsibility to be giving access to the public's legal documents to a well known Serial Litigant, Sociopath, Jealous, Envious Mental Case. The Free Law Project should never have allowed access to the public's legal documents to this Insane Sociopath Aaron Greenspan.

    Because of what The Free Law Project did out of greed and irresponsible behavior, the GDPR will start getting stronger and stronger and start removing these URL's from the Search Engines and eventually this will take hold and these sites such as courtlistener.com and plainsite.org will go out of business and shut down.

    The mistake being made is abusing the public's legal documents to make easy money. At least courtliste

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    Aaron Greenspan, 2 Oct 2018 @ 7:25am

    Aaron Greenspan get sucked by tramps for $10

    I think you're right to report thieves, that's fine.
    Why allow justice to do its job only when, in addition, we can harm the convicted person by citing his or her name, I find that this is a real progress in our modern age.

    It is like Out your pig, what a social progress this digital revenge that allows to free speech.

    For example, I was raped by Aaron Greenspan aka Aaron Jacob Greenspan who is a real pervert who loves to sodomize helpless tramps.
    Tell the whole world!

    Aaron Greenspan aka Aaron Jacob Greenspan is a pervert who gets sucked by tramps for $10

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      PaulT (profile), 2 Oct 2018 @ 7:32am

      Re:

      I'm not sure which is more impressive - the level of obsession, the lack of maturity, or the delusional belief that anyone will be swayed by this kind of ranting.

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    Aaron Greenspan, 2 Oct 2018 @ 7:31am

    Aaron Greenspan

    "The fact and circumstances of a criminal indictment, civil case is a matter of public record, and can't be squelched just because society wants to allow criminals or suspects to clean their reputation."

    ->

    When a criminal is convicted, it is a sentence, he does not find work easily, it is a sentence, he has a criminal record, it is a sentence, it costs him money, it is a sentence, he loses years of his life sometimes in prison, another sentence.
    Anyway, cleaning up his reputation, what is it? With the Internet, criminals were not punished, they jumped out of happiness, right?
    Cleaning up your reputation is to be able to go on living, otherwise you sprint that a criminal must die every time? Is that it? Is that it?
    Can't a criminal have a job, marry a woman (or a man) and have children? Do we have to brand him like a beast?
    You bastards...

    Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator

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    Aaron Greenspan, 2 Oct 2018 @ 7:37am

    Aaron Greenspan

    "The fact and circumstances of a criminal indictment, civil case is a matter of public record, and can't be squelched just because society wants to allow criminals or suspects to clean their reputation."

    ->

    When a criminal is convicted, it is a sentence, he does not find work easily, it is a sentence, he has a criminal record, it is a sentence, it costs him money, it is a sentence, he loses years of his life sometimes in prison, another sentence.
    Anyway, cleaning up his reputation, what is it?

    Before the Internet, criminals were not punished, they jumped out of happiness, right?
    Cleaning up your reputation is to be able to go on living, otherwise you sprint that a criminal must die every time? Is that it? Is that it?
    Can't a criminal have a job, marry a woman (or a man) and have children? Do we have to brand him like a beast?
    You bastards...

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    Aaron Greenspan, 3 Oct 2018 @ 12:44am

    Suspect = presumed innocent

    In addition, when a suspect is not convisted, he is presumed innocent. Didn't you know ?

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    Evil past, 3 Oct 2018 @ 2:05pm

    Aaron Greenspan is most hated on the internet .


    http://www.blacklistreport.com/tag/216-932-1989/page/8/



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    http://www.scamboar d.com/think-computer-foundation-think-computer-corporation-aaron-greenspan-aaron-j-greenspan-www-pla insite-org-plainsite-org.html


    https://reportcheatingonline.com/aaron-greenspan-plainsite-org/


    http://w ww.stdregistry.com/?s=Greenspan

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    Aaron Greenspan, 4 Oct 2018 @ 2:46am

    freedom of speech!

    If Greenspan is tried, his lawyer will say: FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Except that Greenspan used judgments to make people pay, it's not FREEDOM OF SPEECH, it's the will to do harm for financial gain.

    If my ex-husband was having a bad fuck, can I say it? Violation of privacy, public defamation affecting the honour and consideration of a natural person? It's nothing compared to the FREEDOM OF SPEECH!
    If he is convicted, could I publish the proceedings of his trial? YES!!!!! FREEDOM OF SPEECH is the possibility of publishing everything about anyone YES!!!!!!

    I washed my sick grandmother's ass and I want to share this experience on the net. FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!!!!

    No, but the criminal trial is not the same, they are guilty, they must be humiliated, they must never be able to live normally, their lives must be ruined forever. YES!!!!!

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    Anonymous Coward, 26 Dec 2018 @ 2:56pm

    Aaron Greenspan is a Serial Stalker!

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