Yeah, just the other day the owners of my company got into an argument about our health plan.
They started yelling at each other in front of everyone. And then, since they couldn't come to an agreement, they sent everyone home and closed down the office until they figure it out.
Oh, my bad, that didn't happen. Because it doesn't make any sense.
Yes, because if you don't like Green Eggs and Ham you can choose to never eat it again.
And, if we don't like the ACA, we can just repeal it, right?
Yeah, right.
This argument/comparison is ludicrous.
"Don't knock it till you try it" is about as juvenile as you can get when you are discussing national laws with huge impact on every person in the country.
It's funny you say that, but the couple people I graduated with (15 years ago now) that went on to become the local town cops were nearly the dumbest kids in my class.
Yeah, really. Calling national attention to a story and putting pressure on a small DA's office has never prompted changes before. Ever. What a jerk this dad is.
If it wasn't a police state, this shit never would have gotten this far, and it would have been thrown out immediately.
Yes, obviously, there are a whole slew of idiots in the chain on this one. But the surrounding police state is what makes the idiots so powerful and dangerous.
This is a comment backed by incorrect assumptions.
Glen Greenwald is NOT typical print media. He cut a deal with Salon years ago, which he also cut with the Guardian, to have full editorial control over his columns.
He is able to post directly without an editor. He also gets most of his income not from the paper, but from those readers who choose to support him.
Additionally, Greenwald is one of the leading journalists covering and Assange, Manning, Wikileaks, and anything else related to govt encroachment on liberties.
Whats more, he is EXCEEDINGLY critical of most journalists for playing political games at the expense of getting the truth and exposing corruption.
So to say this was standard print media and unlike wikileaks or that type of website is absurd.
But some of us like to use our brains and make a general opinion using decades of govt activities and stories as a basis.
From this we can determine:
a) the govt always finds fun and interesting ways to interpret laws to gain more power
b) sometimes just takes more power and then later changes laws and forgives itself
c) plenty of people don't want to think for themselves and so will just wait for whatever the govt tells them is going on, with no sense of irony that they were lying to our faces 12 seconds ago but NOW they are telling the truth. For real this time! Guys, seriously! They swear they aren't crossing their fingers or ANYthing!
"Your right to toss water ballons ends where someone else's person begins"
I agree 100%. The problem is that not everything requires an arrest.
There are ways to stop behavior or punish people that don't involve slamming them to the ground unnecessarily and arresting them.
By this logic it's ok to arrest and charge someone who intentionally pushes past you in a rude manner and makes you stumble: He has no right to push someone, therefore crime, therefore arrest the asshole!
This sort of thinking does not allow for a functional society of people.
I find it frustrating if one of the copies that was deleted was one belonging to the woman who made the 911 call for she had plenty of time and opportunity to send copies out before the police arrived to confiscate her phone
Most people don't think this sort of thing will actually happen to them and don't have a plan for getting stuff backed up quickly and easily.
On the other hand, if I just witnessed the cops beating someone to death outside my house, I probably would be backing things up as fast as possible and then leaving the area for a while.
On the other hand, there's a growing reluctance among Americans to allow the government to expand its surveillance efforts to cover more private venues, like email or cell phones.
Washington Post had a huge expose a couple years ago about govt secrecy state, including how trillions of intercepted communications are stored every DAY.
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They started yelling at each other in front of everyone. And then, since they couldn't come to an agreement, they sent everyone home and closed down the office until they figure it out.
Oh, my bad, that didn't happen. Because it doesn't make any sense.
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Washington Monument Syndrome
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Monument_Syndrome
In fact, the entire "shutdown of govt" is done in this way.
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And, if we don't like the ACA, we can just repeal it, right?
Yeah, right.
This argument/comparison is ludicrous.
"Don't knock it till you try it" is about as juvenile as you can get when you are discussing national laws with huge impact on every person in the country.
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I love the officials who leak info about their efforts to get a guy who leaked info...
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Need to ban printing printers first...
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Re: Fifteen seconds
The kid was in the van, handcuffed behind his back. They made him step out.
They pulled his coat down to make it even harder to move his arms, as if he could do anything anyway.
BAM, arm to the face.
Unless the kid had a gun hidden under his tongue, there was NO reason for that. Other than no control.
(Also, they seriously think cops should be excused from responsibility because of 'adrenaline'??)
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Re: Re: Re: Don't mean to sound heartless...
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Yes, obviously, there are a whole slew of idiots in the chain on this one. But the surrounding police state is what makes the idiots so powerful and dangerous.
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Glen Greenwald is NOT typical print media. He cut a deal with Salon years ago, which he also cut with the Guardian, to have full editorial control over his columns.
He is able to post directly without an editor. He also gets most of his income not from the paper, but from those readers who choose to support him.
Additionally, Greenwald is one of the leading journalists covering and Assange, Manning, Wikileaks, and anything else related to govt encroachment on liberties.
Whats more, he is EXCEEDINGLY critical of most journalists for playing political games at the expense of getting the truth and exposing corruption.
So to say this was standard print media and unlike wikileaks or that type of website is absurd.
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But some of us like to use our brains and make a general opinion using decades of govt activities and stories as a basis.
From this we can determine:
a) the govt always finds fun and interesting ways to interpret laws to gain more power
b) sometimes just takes more power and then later changes laws and forgives itself
c) plenty of people don't want to think for themselves and so will just wait for whatever the govt tells them is going on, with no sense of irony that they were lying to our faces 12 seconds ago but NOW they are telling the truth. For real this time! Guys, seriously! They swear they aren't crossing their fingers or ANYthing!
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It's a nice dream
I would give them better odds of introducing a better root kit then relaxing DRM in any meaningful way.
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Re: "no crime too small" IS A CRIME.
I agree 100%. The problem is that not everything requires an arrest.
There are ways to stop behavior or punish people that don't involve slamming them to the ground unnecessarily and arresting them.
By this logic it's ok to arrest and charge someone who intentionally pushes past you in a rude manner and makes you stumble: He has no right to push someone, therefore crime, therefore arrest the asshole!
This sort of thinking does not allow for a functional society of people.
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Don't answer a cop's question? DC.
Ask a cop an awkward question? DC.
Sneeze too close to a cop and forget to cover your mouth? DC.
Any hint of not respecting the authoritah... DC.
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The police also cannot beat you to death in the street.
Oh, wait.
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Re: A Learning Moment:
Most people don't think this sort of thing will actually happen to them and don't have a plan for getting stuff backed up quickly and easily.
On the other hand, if I just witnessed the cops beating someone to death outside my house, I probably would be backing things up as fast as possible and then leaving the area for a while.
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It's a little late
Washington Post had a huge expose a couple years ago about govt secrecy state, including how trillions of intercepted communications are stored every DAY.
Now we have FBI counter-terroism agent saying that conversations are recorded:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/04/telephone-calls-recorded-fbi-boston
"No, welcome to America. All of that stuff is being captured as we speak whether we know it or like it or not."
Not sure how much more they can expand it...
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While I'm sure many politicians don't read things they are sponsoring at all, that's not what he just said here.
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