And in the US, those who can't afford insurance (or can't get it) are just as dead. Most Western countries still have better outcomes at a fraction of the price compared to the US. The better outcomes you do have are still subject to massive inefficiencies and cost a lot more than elsewhere.
This is the same scumbag murderous 'terroristic' IRA that tried to blow up the Republicans second 'saint', 'Saint' Maggie Thatcher (Raygun's soulmate). Oh, and blew up lots of kids and innocents. That's who he funded and cheerled for. Good thing there weren't drones in those days!
At least in the UK there is an independent Police Complaints Commission, and they do some fairly harsh torch-shining on police abuses - unless it's 'terrorism' in which case the police seem to get a free pass - sorry, de Menezes!
I'm not saying toll roads shouldn't exist, but they should be the extreme exception (for instance in Britain they are just about only ever new bypass roads), and ideally there should be alternatives to them.
This is like the ISP charging users for roadblocks and then charging businesses not to be roadblocked.
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I think you are conflating Google's digitising process with all these institutions selling out their 'birthright' and responsibility. It's not Google's fault/responsibility for Harper, UCSD or the New York Public Library. If anything, they should be commended for doing their bit to help mitigate this cultural and scientific vandalism.
Because you pay for individual calls by default, so a business paying to pay for your call helps their business, while the next company chooses not to and saves money to do othe things, but maybe isn't as convenient for customers.
The internet is totally different in that it is like a public road network - it costs the same to drive anywhere (ignoring fuel). But, this is like the road maintenance company throwing up roadblocks once you have driven a certain distance and then charging certain businesses not to be roadblocked.
That's an idiot argument. You're saying that a Republican House/Senate could promulgate a law, possibly get enough Dem support (if needed) to pass it, but because the President is a Dem it's a Dem policy/their fault if it backfires?
Oh wait, this is about normal for rightard 'logic'.
The TSA wouldn't have stopped Lockerbie, and they obviously did jack squat against all the various other shoe/underpant bombers. Plus, numerous people have smuggled guns and dangerous chemicals on board planes as tests of the system. So what use are they other than a massive boondoggle?
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This sounds like the usual incredibly stupid racism that still infects the US, particularly the South/Right. Look, there are even RANDOM ALL CAPS to highlight the inbred mentality!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Response to: The Real Michael on Dec 29th, 2013 @ 5:32am
I'm well aware of how Nazis treated socialists, which is a shame that more Americans don't, given the whole over-equation of Nazism with socialism or even communism, or Obama being mistakenly called a socialist or even a communist.
But then I've seen people in the US complain that Fox and anyone-you-care-to-name on the right of the Republican party are too left-wing and 'socialist', so little surprises me any more!
We need more true (if representative) democracy and empathic humanity in our politics, from whichever source, left or right. Where hate, fear and greed are the prime motivators then nastiness is all you get :(
Re: Re: Response to: The Real Michael on Dec 29th, 2013 @ 5:32am
And if you want to call Switzerland of all countries socialist or communist, then you are as politically clueless as all more-right-wing Americans. Germany has powerful socialist elements, and yet they do capitalism extremely well. They just do it humanely.
And no, socialism and communism do NOT go hand in hand any more than capitalism and fascism automatically do.
You didn't. You specifically mentioned the US as if you thought it was being applied there instead of Switzerland.
Your maths is also way off in assuming that this would be a simple $8T addition to the existing budget. It's a lot more likely that a) it would replace a large chunk of that $3T; b) that you would make massive savings through simplification and removal of application of benefits; and c) some would be regained by larger taxes on earnings, as the state is 'guaranteeing' a minimum earning.
So it should both make neocon libertarians happy and sad at once!
There would also be the benefit to the economy of more money being available to stimulate the economy. Plus, if you skip a couple of illegal wars and trim back the military-industrial complex there would be no problems affording this. Or is it only handouts when it's the poor, and deserved largesse when it's Goldman Sachs or Lockheed-Martin?
That'll be the alleged voter fraud that no-one has actually found, but in fact only exists in a) wingnut imaginations, and b) wingnut gerrymandered districts?
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I'm not saying toll roads shouldn't exist, but they should be the extreme exception (for instance in Britain they are just about only ever new bypass roads), and ideally there should be alternatives to them.
This is like the ISP charging users for roadblocks and then charging businesses not to be roadblocked.
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The internet is totally different in that it is like a public road network - it costs the same to drive anywhere (ignoring fuel). But, this is like the road maintenance company throwing up roadblocks once you have driven a certain distance and then charging certain businesses not to be roadblocked.
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Oh wait, this is about normal for rightard 'logic'.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Response to: The Real Michael on Dec 29th, 2013 @ 5:32am
But then I've seen people in the US complain that Fox and anyone-you-care-to-name on the right of the Republican party are too left-wing and 'socialist', so little surprises me any more!
We need more true (if representative) democracy and empathic humanity in our politics, from whichever source, left or right. Where hate, fear and greed are the prime motivators then nastiness is all you get :(
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Re: Re: Response to: The Real Michael on Dec 29th, 2013 @ 5:32am
And no, socialism and communism do NOT go hand in hand any more than capitalism and fascism automatically do.
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Your maths is also way off in assuming that this would be a simple $8T addition to the existing budget. It's a lot more likely that a) it would replace a large chunk of that $3T; b) that you would make massive savings through simplification and removal of application of benefits; and c) some would be regained by larger taxes on earnings, as the state is 'guaranteeing' a minimum earning.
So it should both make neocon libertarians happy and sad at once!
There would also be the benefit to the economy of more money being available to stimulate the economy. Plus, if you skip a couple of illegal wars and trim back the military-industrial complex there would be no problems affording this. Or is it only handouts when it's the poor, and deserved largesse when it's Goldman Sachs or Lockheed-Martin?
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