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Good ol’ GEMA.

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  1. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 9 Sep 2011 @ 6:16am

    Remind us all again exactly how much of your "content" was destroyed.

    *shakes head*

    link to this | view in thread ]

  2. identicon
    IronM@sk, 9 Sep 2011 @ 6:26am

    Aliens

    "Dust off. Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure." - MAFIAA

    link to this | view in thread ]

  3. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 9 Sep 2011 @ 6:32am

    Queue "Nina sucks", "This comic strip sucks" and "You're all freetards" comments in 5...4...

    link to this | view in thread ]

  4. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 9 Sep 2011 @ 6:36am

    Re:

    Oh and now that I said this, bring on the "Typical Techdirt, always trying to silence the truth" comments in 3...2...

    link to this | view in thread ]

  5. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 9 Sep 2011 @ 6:36am

    Friday

    Kickin’ in the front seat
    Sittin’ in the back seat
    Gotta make my mind up
    Which video can I takedown?

    It’s Friday, Friday
    Gotta takedown on Friday
    Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the weekend, weekend
    Friday, Friday
    Gettin’ down on Friday
    Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the weekend

    link to this | view in thread ]

  6. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 9 Sep 2011 @ 6:42am

    Re:

    This comic strip, Nina, and freetards all suck. The party is over.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  7. icon
    That Anonymous Coward (profile), 9 Sep 2011 @ 6:48am

    Re: Friday

    You have invoked the evil that is Rebecca Black...
    The horror you have unleashed on the world has no equal.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  8. icon
    justok (profile), 9 Sep 2011 @ 6:57am

    Braaiday

    link to this | view in thread ]

  9. identicon
    AJ, 9 Sep 2011 @ 6:57am

    PC Games are the perfect example.....

    Always online DRM, DRM servers going down, accidental banning, hijacked accounts, it can be absolutely terrible at times.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  10. icon
    Chronno S. Trigger (profile), 9 Sep 2011 @ 7:11am

    Re:

    Well, I can't speak for Nina, but I can say that you don't have to have your content destroyed to speak out for those who have.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  11. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 9 Sep 2011 @ 7:19am

    Re: Re:

    Yeah, but Nina is claiming Gema destroys content. Once again, the content of her cartoon just isn't true. I do suspect the Techdirt sheeple will fall for it though.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  12. icon
    Dark Helmet (profile), 9 Sep 2011 @ 7:23am

    Re: Re: Re:

    "Yeah, but Nina is claiming Gema destroys content. Once again, the content of her cartoon just isn't true. I do suspect the Techdirt sheeple will fall for it though."

    No, GEMA destroyed POTENTIAL views of Sita. You people love potential things, don't you? Like potential sales being "destroyed" or "taken away" or "stolen" or "booty-raped"? We're just taking a page out of your book, homey.

    Yo dawg, we heard you liked putting all your eggs in potential baskets, so put the word potential in front of stuff to make our arguments almost make sense if you smack yourself in the face with a hammer several times. U mad?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  13. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 9 Sep 2011 @ 7:48am

    To Anonymous Coward: Fuck Off

    Signer,
    People who are tired of being told "it's in your interest", "it's to protect the children", etc.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  14. icon
    Greevar (profile), 9 Sep 2011 @ 8:01am

    Re: Re:

    "This comic strip, Nina, and freetards all suck." [pure opinion]

    "The party is over." [citation needed]

    link to this | view in thread ]

  15. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 9 Sep 2011 @ 8:02am

    Re: Re: Re: Re:

    You really want to argue potential because it is to your benefit? If it is a valid argument, much of the "debunking" on techdirt has failed. If it is a bullshit argument, then Nina is full of it.

    Which one is it, big boy?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  16. icon
    Dark Helmet (profile), 9 Sep 2011 @ 8:17am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    But you want to NOT argue potential since it doesn't suit YOUR argument. If that's the case, much of the crying about lost potential sales has failed.

    Which one is it, little guy?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  17. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 9 Sep 2011 @ 8:21am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    I argue nothing. You brought it up. Is potential valid, and Mike is full of it, or is potential bullshit, and Nina is full of it?

    Two choices, you get to make one.

    (oh yeah, if you look around, that is the wet paint on the floor all around you, and this is the corner).

    link to this | view in thread ]

  18. icon
    Atkray (profile), 9 Sep 2011 @ 8:26am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    Could you please post a link to whatever application you use to obfuscate posts I would like to try it out.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  19. icon
    The Mighty Buzzard (profile), 9 Sep 2011 @ 8:27am

    Re: Re:

    Dude, it's Friday. The good parties haven't even started yet unless you're a college kid.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  20. icon
    Dark Helmet (profile), 9 Sep 2011 @ 8:30am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    I see. So I make a whimsical comment utilizing the tactics you bring up all the time, you then argue against your own tactics, completely missing the irony and humor behind my comment (WHOOOOSH!), and somehow you've convinced yourself that YOU'VE painted ME in the corner?

    Buddy, give me whatever you're on, because ignorance must truly be bliss....

    link to this | view in thread ]

  21. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 9 Sep 2011 @ 8:34am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    Haha

    You should make your own cartoons!

    Haha

    link to this | view in thread ]

  22. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 9 Sep 2011 @ 8:41am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    Oh, nice attempt not to answer.

    What is it DH? Is Mike full of it for claiming that potential is meaningless, or is Nina full of it for claiming that Gema destroyed her (whatever it is) because it destroyed her potential?

    I await your answer, not a deflection.

    Come on. Your a big boy. Man up and give us an answer.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  23. icon
    Dark Helmet (profile), 9 Sep 2011 @ 8:58am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    "Is Mike full of it for claiming that potential is meaningless"

    No.

    "or is Nina full of it for claiming that Gema destroyed her (whatever it is) because it destroyed her potential?"

    Nina didn't make that argument. I did, mockingly. You're propensity for wrongness is awesome....

    "I await your answer, not a deflection."

    Here's my answer. Potential sales are a dubious argument. The potential for sharing culture is less dubious, because it doesn't rely on a result (like a purchase), only the potential (access). GEMA removed access to material, loss of potential sales doesn't do that. Denying access is concrete. It either is or is not. You either have access or you don't.

    A "lost sale" claimed due to piracy can in fact be lost for a variety of reasons, or in fact never truly a potential sale at all. It is not concrete. It is inherently unreliable because it is a claim against something that DIDN'T happen and therefore has no basis in observable reality. Shutting down access differs, because it is an action taken by GEMA that I can witness and react upon.

    "Come on. Your a big boy. Man up and give us an answer."

    *You're

    link to this | view in thread ]

  24. identicon
    AJ, 9 Sep 2011 @ 8:58am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    The sad part is, you don't even know how much of an idiot you look like right now. You proved Dark right while trying to prove him wrong.....

    Double Fail!>>?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  25. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 9 Sep 2011 @ 9:10am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    So what you are saying is that Nina lost nothing except potential, nothing was destroyed, and thus her cartoon is bullshit?

    Glad we agree.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  26. icon
    mike allen (profile), 9 Sep 2011 @ 9:16am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    the only ones full of are the ACs with nothing to back up their arguments but insults.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  27. icon
    Dark Helmet (profile), 9 Sep 2011 @ 9:17am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    Uh, I'm saying that German citizens concretely lost access to a tiny part of culture, thus they temporarily have destroyed access to that culture.

    Is that verbage in Nina's cartoon over the top? Sure, a bit. It IS a cartoon, afterall....

    link to this | view in thread ]

  28. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 9 Sep 2011 @ 9:28am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    So you are saying that Mike is wrong, that access to culture was destroyed, and as a result, potential sales were lost?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  29. icon
    Dark Helmet (profile), 9 Sep 2011 @ 9:37am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    ....What sales are you referring to?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  30. icon
    Gabriel Tane (profile), 9 Sep 2011 @ 9:56am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    "HA! You used the word "to"! By that, I assume that I am totally right! Blam!" -AC

    link to this | view in thread ]

  31. icon
    Dark Helmet (profile), 9 Sep 2011 @ 9:59am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    Damn, defeated at my own game.... :p

    link to this | view in thread ]

  32. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 9 Sep 2011 @ 11:38am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    Congrats, you lose. Next time you might consider doing something different than trying to play word games, because it makes you come off as an idiot.

    Still waiting to figure out which one you think is full of shit, Mike or Nina. Clearly your statements mean that they cannot both be right.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  33. identicon
    Trolls-R-Us, 9 Sep 2011 @ 12:33pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    Congrats, you lose. Next time you might consider doing something different than trying to play word games, because it makes you come off as an idiot.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  34. identicon
    Someone who dislikes unfunny comics, 9 Sep 2011 @ 12:59pm

    This is rather blunt.

    Honestly, I prefer comics that are funny. No offense, I just don't really like political comics. Is there some way to set up the site to filter these comics so I can read just the stories? I would like that.

    I mean, I'm not saying you should stop posting these! I'm sure some people like them! I just personally dislike them enough that I would appreciate a way to avoid seeing them please. Other then strategically closing my eyes. Thank you for helping!

    link to this | view in thread ]

  35. icon
    Dark Helmet (profile), 9 Sep 2011 @ 1:38pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    I gave you a rather lengthy response and answer, and this is what you respond with? I layed out why I think they're different situations clearly. I'd be happy to have a conversation with you, but you don't seem interested....

    link to this | view in thread ]

  36. identicon
    darryl, 9 Sep 2011 @ 6:55pm

    Re: good luck with that

    there is Money involved, and Mike will stop at nothing to get his hands on it, it's coming up to the weekend, and Mike wants some good dirt for page hits for his weekend spending money.

    So nina is still crying herself to sleep about Sita !!! wow that was years ago.. Nina get over it, it was not even YOUR freaking 'culture' to steal and sell.

    Culture is not like big mac's you cannot buy or sell it, or acquire it from someone else.

    I guess if you do not have any culture yourself, you have to try to steal it from somewhere else, but that is just a very sad state of yourself.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  37. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 9 Sep 2011 @ 9:03pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    No, you gave me a lengthy dodge. It's a "one or the other", not a chance to post up two excuses as to why they are both full of it, yet you love them both.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  38. identicon
    Prisoner 201, 10 Sep 2011 @ 7:23am

    Re: Re: good luck with that

    I dont think culture means what you think it does.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture.

    Hope that helps!

    link to this | view in thread ]

  39. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 10 Sep 2011 @ 1:04pm

    Re: Re:

    "The party is over."

    Yeah, the monopoly party is over. Time to switch to scrabble

    link to this | view in thread ]

  40. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 10 Sep 2011 @ 1:05pm

    Re: Re: good luck with that

    Can someone mail darrly a dictionary. I would recommender him an online one, but he doesn't know how to use the internet too well

    link to this | view in thread ]

  41. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 10 Sep 2011 @ 1:06pm

    Re:

    you must be a Garfield fan

    link to this | view in thread ]

  42. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 11 Sep 2011 @ 12:11am

    Re: Re: Re: good luck with that

    It wouldn't do any good he probably suffers from alcoholism or from dysgraphia.

    Maybe a voice recognition would help.

    link to this | view in thread ]


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