It's Official: Wikipedia To Go Dark On Wednesday
from the pipa-protests dept
Last week, we noted that Jimmy Wales was in favor of a blacking out Wikipedia on Wednesday in protest of PIPA, joining with Reddit and lots of other sites, but that the community need to weigh in quickly. It appears they've now done so, as Wales is telling students to do their homework early, because the site is a goner for Wednesday:In fact, it appears they're going even further than Reddit, who is going down for 12 hours. All English-language pages on Wikipedia will go dark for 24 hours -- starting at midnight DC time on Wednesday. For what it's worth, I've been told by multiple Congressional staffers that Wikipedia is a tool they all rely on pretty much every day -- so expect this to get some attention. The site will also be replaced with an action alert, asking people to call and write Congress -- and Jimmy says his goal is to "melt the phone lines." Considering how much usage Wikipedia gets, that's entirely possible.Student warning!Do your homework early.Wikipedia protesting bad law on Wednesday! #sopa
— Jimmy Wales (@jimmy_wales) January 16, 2012
This is a big move, and it's great to see Jimmy and the community willing to take a stand like this. Jimmy is also tweeting up a storm about why this is so important. He's also responding to false claims that the bills are "dead," by noting that SOPA (1) may rise again and (2) that PIPA is still alive and well.
Either way, come Wednesday, I'm curious if Congress is still going to be claiming that it's just a "small minority" of people who dislike these bills.
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I hope world starts now thinking how to make life better than arguing if it is piracy to copy a bunch of crap bits of data.
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But hey, why don't you guys go for it and see what happens?
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No one is "holding the internet hostage". They are merely blacking out a few (emphasis on "a few") sites in protest of a bad law.
This is the equivalent of a sit in, of Rosa Parks refusing to move to the back of a bus, etc. I'm not comparing what they're protesting over or equivocating it in any way. I'm merely pointing out the measures they are taking in their form of protest are reasonably similar. Peaceful. With no intention to cause harm to anyone.
Or are you against workers going on strike to protest bad working conditions too? Because that's holding the companies who have bad working conditions, use child labor, etc "hostage"?
I wouldn't be surprised if you did think that way. Or perhaps you don't. Perhaps you only think that way when it's convenient to you.
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So the original AC is very much wrong. But that shouldn't strike any of us as a surprise.
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You can still use all the awesome tools the morons who support bad legistation can build. For all the good it will do you.
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If you want a friend in Washington, get a dog.
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How so? This seems similar to a work stoppage to draw attention to a law or proposed law. Actually, this is even a more reasonable response since the decisions to blackout are being made by the business owners themselves and not just the employees.
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Yeah and if asinine laws pass you will watch the internet darken because every asshole in the world will be running around using this to censor what they dont like.
Under these laws, it would be easy to get any one of the services we use and depend on daily to get shut down.
Holding hostage? No sir, a glimpse into the future.
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Yes, blocking What.cd, waffles, TPB, Demonoid, etc will destroy the Internet!!!
LOL at your FUD, Freetardo.
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Yes, blocking What.cd, waffles, TPB, Demonoid, etc will /end piracy/!!!
LOL at your delusions, shill.
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I suppose we get the last LOL.
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Freetards united against tyranny! (Trademark pending) ;)
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Wikipedia isn't called a freetard site.
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It will be. Or just has been.
After the umpteenth-gajillionth time that you get called “freetard”, well, you just sorta get over it.
After the umpteenth-gajillionth time that you get called a “piracy-supporter”, well, you just sorta start to think that “supporting piracy” might not be such a bad idea.
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Also, he (the AC you're replying to) is referring to the various sites participating in the voluntary "dark" time. Wikipedia, XDA, etc. These sites are all willingly going dark to protest internet censorship in general. Not just "freetard sites" as you like to spew.
One man's "freetard site" is another man's information site. XDA would be a fine example of that. Plenty of information on there on how to bypass cell manufacturer and cell phone company restrictions and limitations. They also provide applications and tools for doing so. Some (perhaps the cell companies and manufacturers) might label them "rogue".
I think it's kind of "let's stand together or fall separately" mindset at the moment with these sites who are going to go dark. Not a bad idea.
Do try and provide facts when you comment. Rather than insults, misinformation, etc.
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Your propaganda only becomes valid when you decide to share your money with me.
Paypal me here: Skullfuckedpirates@parasites.cd
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Copytard shilling over 9000.
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Re: Freetards united against tyranny! (Trademark pending) ;)
But seriously, I wasn't meaning that Wikipedia is a "freetard site", I was actually pointing out the irony in SOPA opposition (a FREE site choosing to go offline) being viewed as "taking the internet hostage".... Ok, maybe I wasn't pointing out irony, maybe it more pointing and laughing at an inane post. ;)
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So why does SOPA have friends in Congress - since that is pretty much what it does!
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It will however hold congress hostage. "This far no further". I think this is the sentiment of all of most people.
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Given that this is exactly what your friends are lobbying congress to achieve, where does that leave you?
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Wikipedia offers a free service. What, are you worried that you might lose your free service for a day? Freetard.
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Go SOPA!
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"Learn to threaded mode" is the proper term according to one of our AC's a few months ago.
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So you've thrown in now with the pirates?
Welcome to the fold, comrade.
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1. Follow the instructions on this page.
2. A Techdirt goes black for a year.
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I thought SOPA was going to protect American Job's not loose them. This law has not even been passed, and it lost me and 10 other Americans Their Jobs. I can just imagine when it is passed. Hold on tight Here goes the small buisness. Thank You
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it does protect them.... American entertainment industry's jobs
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Fixed that
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No one with third grade spelling abilities gets VC from anyone.
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It's just to bad you got caught up in this mess.
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SOPA isn't dead, merely 'resting'
But with some good news (SOPA might be delayed), there's also a rumor going around that SOPA might be given to the HSA for total rule adoption-which means we're doomed.
The Homeland Security Agency would totally love absolute control of the Internet.
I hope the rumor isn't true, and it's just fear-mongering-but if it is, there's no way to fight a 'formal adoption of rule' by a government agency that can't be bought.
At least legally.
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By the way, it's called the "Department of Homeland Security", not the Homeland Security Agency.
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Wikipedia (Wikimedia) sure is a big site but there are bigger fish in that sea and asking them to sign up may prove fruitful.
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Hrm
Also, can someone explain what's to stop this decision opening the door for subsequent political abuse of wikipedia? Pleading special circumstances? Isn't that the same logic behind why it's ok for PIPA to mangle established law and muzzle free expression?
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When the RIAA, MPAA NBC, and all other corporations stop trying to act like they should have free speach then Wikipedia should follow suit.
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But you're conflating "wikipedia the website & reference tool" with "wikipedia the organisation & people who maintain it".
Should the latter get involved in politics? Definitely.
Should the former? I kinda think 'no'.
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The reason they too so long to come to this decision is that they were concerned about their place as a reference work taking part in politics but have decided that this is well worth the risk. Good for them!
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But he's going to politicize the internets' encyclopedia anyway?
Jimmy fucked this one up. Sad.
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When the RIAA, MPAA NBC, and all other corporations stop trying to act like they should have free speach then Wikipedia should follow suit.
Nope no fuck up sorry, And FYI Wikipedia has been politicized since inception. This isnt even the first protest they have done.
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So if he changes SOPA to SOPA/PIPA, it's still valid.
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I think you are a spambot?
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SOPA & PIPA
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Please nameless groups on the Internet expose the dirt behind these two Bills for the public to see.
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Wikipedia: You Win 2 Internets
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Heroes and Chickens
I discovered the poll results earlier by accident while checking through who joined this SOPA/PIPA blackout and who did not. It was a very close tie between full site blackout and a top banner announcement but I was glad to spot a full English language blackout.
I did not spot their part about 24 hour blackout when I only noticed the approval for the 18th.
Well this is sure a great start in giving them a day they will never forget. I have already been going around asking sites like FaceBook to join this strike. I joke this could make good "nuclear blackout" recovery testing for their employees.
Wikipedia is a very big site but you have to wonder if Mark Zuckerberg really has "balls" big enough to take out his FaceBook creation? Scared are we? Chicken? Recovery possible? We shall see.
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Wikipedia is a very good start though.
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It to attempt to show those who aren't quite-so-net-savvy what the future WILL hold under these bills. A 12-24 hour long taster, if you will.
And if that statement was true, why do the bills have any support at all in Congress? They'll will effectively leave the internet at the mercy of the RIAA/MPAA, their archaic business models and anyone else whom has the capacity to take the time required to put up a real or false copyright claim against a website or business.
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You're right, they should just spend all the money producing it and then let you rip it off.
You're a fucking idiot.
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They are archaic business models. Focused entirely on physical goods, when what people want is digital content (in non-physical format) at reasonable prices with as little delay as possible easily accessible to them and to be used as they see fit (on any device they may own).
If they can't/don't want to meet their customer's wants, somebody else will. It's that simple. This is how business works.
Now if the people meeting the demand are doing so illegally, while that is wrong, at least they're willing to step up. If the people able to provide the product legally aren't willing to do so, that's their loss obviously. And only further distancing themselves from their customer's and their customer's wallets/purses.
Me thinks the "fucking idiot" is the you and anyone who thinks that in this day and age you can still dictate terms to customers, as if they have no other options available to them. The truth is they do. Whether you approve of them or not. You won't give them what they want, well... as I said, your loss.
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Archaic business models like offering their content for sale in outdated formats at prices that exceed their value, while delaying or crippling the same content in methods and time-frames that newer technology allows and customers want.
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"For what it's worth, I've been told by multiple Congressional staffers that Wikipedia is a tool they all rely on pretty much every day -- so expect this to get some attention." Ok, so what would happen if, instead of a 'blackout' of Wikipedia and other important sites for one day, a blackout that would harm everyone who wanted to access those sites that day (including innocent students trying to do their homework), what if those sites implemented a selective blackout, refusing to serve their web pages to any IP address that resolved to a .gov or related domain? If no senator, no representative, no congressional staffer, no federal agent at any federal agency no matter how large or small, could use Google or any other search engine, could not access information on Wikipedia or any other online encyclopedia or dictionary or archive, could not get the news from the NY Times web site or any other newspaper, not just wednesday but every day thereafter, would that get the government's attention better than hurting all the other people who use the internet?
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This is bringing attention to the issue
The Guardian has one in their Tech section, although they are using "Twitter boss slams 'silly' Sopa protest" as their headline which I'm not particulary keen on.
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