People In Poland Come Out To Protest ACTA In Large Numbers; Polish Gov't Calls It 'Blackmail'
from the people-are-fed-up dept
Wow. We've noted that the folks who got revved up around SOPA weren't just focused on that one bill, but have remained active and interested in related issues -- with ACTA being an important one, especially given the effort by the government in Poland to sign on. Following on the big anti-SOPA protests, it seems that a bunch of folks in Warsaw decided to take to the streets in protest of ACTA... and it looks like an awful lot of people showed up, despite this being about a copyright trade agreement and the fact that it was below freezing temperatures outside. There are some photos on the site linked above that show a very large group gathering. This is really fantastic. Just a month ago, you would have never expected over a thousand people to show up in the freezing cold in Warsaw to protest a bad trade agreement about copyright issues. But it shows just how badly the entertainment industry is miscalculating on these things. The further and further the entertainment industry pushes, all it's doing is educating and activating a large and growing group of folks who are sick of bad copyright laws interfering with their own basic rights and civil liberties.
But, alas, it appears the Polish government is following in the tone deaf footsteps of the MPAA. The government has said it's moving forward anyway, and appears to consider this example of democracy and assembly a form of blackmail:
Prime Minister Donald Tusk said the government “would not submit to blackmail” and that the treaty would be signed.Separately, he claimed that there's obviously no free speech concerns around ACTA, because countries like the US, New Zealand and others, who "are the backbone of freedom" signed on... so obviously it must be just fine and dandy.
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I was once so very proud of this country and now almost everything to do with the government just makes me sick. They are destroying everything this nation once was.
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Social do-gooders devise crises of various sort to force their personal, often totally selfish and stupid, desires upon their neighbors, upon those who are culturally different, upon the children of families other than their own, and upon businesses and industries who produce and sell products that they personally deem undesirable or inappropriate. The notable feature of them is that their noses are extraordinarily long, an anomaly born of sticking them into the business of others.
And now we come to the most pestilent, the most dangerous, the most consistent, and the most fearsome perpetuator of false crises � the U.S. government. Most everything that the educated morons of our government carry out � on both the administrative and bureaucratic levels � is born of a crisis predicated upon simulated circumstances. That monstrous boondoggle Obamacare is a case in point.
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Pirate Party Book
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thats just amazing to see
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History of the world...
As Van �Communist� Jones states, Bottom Up (Occupy style uprising), Top Down (Govt clamping down), Inside Out (Make the Constitution irrelevant so we can implement our new rules, preferably the UN�s).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWrdgkt9z_c
Compare and contrast the Govt�s reactions to Pearl Harbor and 9/11.
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LET'S DO THE TIMEWARP AGAIN!!!
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We are a Nation of Shit Now !!! I do not care what any of you think.I am 56 years old.We are not what we were when I was younger.Corrupted Assholes are in charge of us and it is way worse than the days of my youth.
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Please face forward...
This is what I imagine is being whispered in to the politicians ears as the MPAA/RIAA lead them to the end of the cliff
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These words ring hollow when he signed ACTA when no one was paying much attention to copyright issues. Accept for Techdirt of course.
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So why are you surprised?
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Impeachment
http://www.salon.com/2011/12/16/three_myths_about_the_detention_bill/
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This whole thing has turned into a huge joke. No one in Washington really seems willing to stand up firmly for what is right.
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Unrelated
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And it's all live.
Prepare the (non-copyrighted) classical score!
I recommend Beethoven.
I waited for nearly 20 years to see the public finally stand up and take notice, and to see it go global brings tears to my eyes.
Just a couple more, and these RIAA/MPAA eras of terror finally end.
Now, if only people would stop buying music and movies, if only to drive home a point of change.
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Newsflash, you serve the people, not corporations, not other politicians and certainly not foreign governments.
You run your government based on what the people want, you know, the same people who gave you that power, and FYI your tactics in the past to manipulate your people, are'nt gonna work for those that have wised up to them and are now looking out for them, your just gonna incite the anger of those people you supposedly serve, if you continue to ignore them, and do whatever you please, under the guise of "its for our country"
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strange how the public are always the 'bad people' when they try to protect their basic rights, but nothing is ever mentioned about the bribery going on to get laws passed or that those laws are made in private with secrecy being the main ingredient so as to give certain industries unacceptable measures at the public's expense.
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Democracy in Action
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Today we find out Mega was being monitored back to 2006 including listening in to their encrypted Skype calls. Skype hands over your private key to anyone with a court order.
European businesses now totally refuse US hosting including cloud service when the US can just pick through their communication, trade secrets, designs, plans are more.
Immigration record for 10 years your name, address, telephone numbers, bank numbers, credit card numbers, passport, source and destination, travel companions and if they feel the need medical records, religion and ethnic origin.
This is the same country that believes that any email over 6 months old is considered "abandoned" and they can take it without any court order.
All the US Government did was to give them laws to protect the population against terrorists. Now everyone is a potential terrorist and to get whatever data they want they just need to say "he may be a terrorist". Abuse is rampant and the US Government now compiles up all the data it can to monitor all aspects of your life.
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Wasn't the MPAA/RIAA's whole point of suing people to "educate" the masses?
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Its all about spreading the word to as many as possible, the way governments use media outlets, the ones in power have a potential strangle hold on all forms of media to spread lies and truths, problem with the internet, is that they cant control negative press, whats to say that censorship of the internet is'nt their end game, hell copyright infringement is apparantly the most important issue facing some of our goverments, every other more important issues have all been taken care of, and the SOPA/PIPA/ACTA bills will finally bring a utopia to the companies.....sorry i meant .........people
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People on the street are protesting against ACTA. We can also claim that since there are no people on the street protest FOR ACTA then 100% of people are against ACTA.
The sight of 10,000 people marching through Warsaw and other cities is a big sign that people are unhappy.
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display of criminal pride
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Maybe it is time copyright be reworked?
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Let's be specific: The needs of the many dollars outweigh the needs of the people, obviously.
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The current goal is to get ACTA into Congress. The President's signature on ACTA is invalid when he is not allowed to change things that Congress control like Copyright law.
If he is allowed to get away with this one then he will be writing many laws disguised as trade agreements to bypass Congress.
Should ACTA get into Congress then we can fight it there.
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Someone really needs to get this printed on a large metal sign and then beat everyone on the State Department and Congress over the head with it.
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Who's to say what has and has not been uploaded to megaupload, piracy is only a problem, because the artists are'nt getting compensated for their work, and there is nothing stopping them appeasing the artists and the people, in regards to better service and low low rates, oh wait, no, they shut down that road
and then there's all that content uploaded by the people, such as personal photos, academic writings, indie artists, work documents etc etc, thats not a form of free speech apperantly, because that would srew their plans to do whatever they want
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Really...........really............................
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NZ's a backbone of 'freedom' in the sense that, from where i'm sitting, it mostly ignores you unless you're actively causing problems... and most Kiwis can't be bothered causing problems when the issue doesn't personally affect them. so... it's less freedom and more lazyness.
hence why that 'freedom' vanishes the moment the US comes knocking... and why we're (fortunately) still not a republic... among other things.
that said, i figure if our government could get their heads around the fact that NZ is, in fact, a sovereign nation and no, they, the elected officials, are NOT the bosses, it'd all work quite nicely as is. (especially if the Monarchy/governers got it through their heads that, much as parliament exists to limit the excesses of monarchy, it is their job, duty, and reason for existing to limit the excesses of parliament. not the only one, but certainly the most meaningful day to day. well, that and the fact that, last i looked, officially speaking the bureaucracy answers to the monarch, not parliament. )
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FTFH
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There were 10000 people protesting in Cracow and many cities exceeded 1000.
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Still valid that the PEOPLE don't want it signed either though.
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So how much...
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Reports are over 10,000 people took part. These protests were said to have arranged these meet-ups on FaceBook. There was also a rumour that such posts in Poland were being censored.
Now they are planning a Polish website blackout day for the end of this month. If you think Poland is doing well you should see what Brazil did.
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In the past, when laws and regulations were passed, those who did'nt agree with them, had the will but never the means that the internet provides, the potential to reach out to many like minded people and discuss just truly what people think about them.
They need to wise up to that fact, because all the tricks they use to get the majority to comply, are being documented, and it does'nt take a genius to start seing the patterns in this corporate sponsored matrix
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Protest in Krakow (Cracow)
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Freedom is priceless!
NO TO ACTA, CENSORSHIP AND CONTROL!!!
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Freedom is priceless!
NO TO ACTA, CENSORSHIP AND CONTROL!!!
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Anonymous Politics?
http://i.imgur.com/7BSM5.jpg
It claims to be a photo from the Polish Parliament!!!
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That is a first. Next they will DDoS their own Government websites, not. LOL
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He's right! What were we thinking? :)
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Photos from various cities in this demotivator: http://kwejk.pl/obrazek/876467
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Poster
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Sheesh...the gall of those labels and studios, the only industries associated with this trade agreement.
Wait...My bad. It looks like other industries are also associated with the agreement.
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Whenever I read a litany of "concerns" that manifest little, if any, substantive knowledge about the content of legislation, I an not inclined to immediately assume they are very real and valid.
I am still trying to decipher your comment as it pertains to government/corporate oppression of the larger populace (much less what populace you are talking about). Note sure I agree that encouraging people to pay for what they consume is particularly oppressive, whether such people reside in the US or elsewhere.
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It really shows the type of mindset you have. Which is to say, it's a bad one. Your bias is showing. Everyone on the planet could say they're against such acts for every reason but the need/want to get free stuff and you'd still say that's all they care about.
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For example, are you concerned that ACTA may create a situation that conflicts with subsisting law (e.g., 28 USC 1498)?
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But notice how I never said I (emphasis on "I") was concerned. I spoke mainly about you and your mindset, emphasizing on the fact that you just read an article about people protesting ACTA and your comment immediately jumped to the "they just want free stuff" rhetoric. Dismissing them right off the bat.
Perhaps, rather than wanting to focus on specifics within the law, you should just kinda take note and realize, NOT EVERYONE WHO COMPLAINS ABOUT THESE LAWS JUST WANTS FREE SH*T.
That's it. No more, no less. Realize there is more to any of these things than that. Then... and only then... might you and your kind be able to realize that the people who aren't at all happy with these various laws and acts and whatnot are the people you should really not be going out of your way to piss off. Aka, YOUR customers. Or, aka, YOUR constituents.
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If one is inclined to criticize a document (statute, legislation, agreement, etc.), then it seems to me that at the very least one should first read it to try and learn if it really does say or cover what others are attributing to it.
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Or, if you're smart, you follow the money.
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I'll tell you what, you just keep confronting what you think the problem is and we'll (if I may) keep confronting what we think the problem is, as, apparently, the two are not the same.
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When a blu-Ray costs half of a weekly wage in one nation, which can't import it from a nation where it is cheaper due to restrictions which are unnecessary, then there's something wrong.
When you have to conflate criminal activities with a civil activity just to protect your "business", then there's something wrong. This is called the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, not Anti-Counterfeiting and Anti-Piracy Trade Agreement.
Stop trying to buy bad laws and start fucking innovating - I am sick of seeing Generic 80s Cartoon Movie #98310 for the 17th time.
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Blackmail is wrong!
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Fuck copyright, fuck Big Media. This is day 27 of my boycott of big media.
I will not buy a single dvd, cd or movie ticket this year, unless I can buy it from the artists/moviemakers themselves. Nor will I touch a digital download of any of those files. I don't need it, I don't want any of it. The big names behind the MPAA and the RIAA can rot in hell.
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Seems dictionary.com lists it as:
black�mail
/ˈbl�kˌmeɪl/ Show Spelled[blak-meyl]
noun
1. any payment extorted by intimidation, as by threats of injurious revelations or accusations.
2. the extortion of such payment: He confessed rather than suffer the dishonor of blackmail.
3. a tribute formerly exacted in the north of England and in Scotland by freebooting chiefs for protection from pillage.
Might I suggest an additional entry:
4. Protesting actions of the government in Poland, or otherwise disagreeing with the officials in that country in a manner that is visible to other people.
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is he not the one who took things over after the airplane 'crash' killing the entire government ?
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It's quite enlightening when democratically elected governments around the world occasionally forgets to pretend that they serve the populace that elected them, and instead we get to see how they really view their citizens. The rulers may pay some attention to the people once every four years when there's an election, but once that little annoyance is over with, the people should just STFU and don't interfere with how the country is being run. In this version of "democracy" the people is not the ones who is the basis of the rule of law and whom the elected officials will be held accountable to, but rather a bunch of sheep that needs to be fooled every four years through a grotesque spectacle called erroneously an "Election". The most succesful con-men in this popularity contest will get to rule the land for the next four years and bestow lavish tax payer funded gifts to their friends and allies.
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America declares war on the world.
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WE are the 99er's of the World and WE SHALL BE HEARD!!!!!!
if you are reading this message, then you ARE the resistance.
google it and spread the word, starts 3-1-2012
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