How The Runaway Success Of A Tiny $25 Computer Could Become A Big Problem For Oppressive Regimes

from the hidden-benefits dept

Tue, Mar 6th 2012 8:27am — Glyn Moody

The Raspberry Pi is a $25 credit-card sized computer that has succeeded in making GNU/Linux not just newsworthy, but downright desirable. The initial batch of boards sold out in minutes, and eager customers crashed the server where it was being sold. The original vision of the Raspberry Pi was to promote amateur programming and to re-invigorate the teaching of computing in the UK (and elsewhere) by providing a very low-cost and easily hackable system. Naturally, though, its open source code allows it to be applied in many different situations. Here, for example, is a plan to create a secure chat system for activists that can be used in countries where communications are routinely under surveillance, using a program called Cryptocat:

Because of their low-cost and small size they can then be shipped to activists and NGO's in areas where free-speech is difficult.

"This is especially useful for activist organizations, human rights organizations, any group composed of a few dozen people who need to have an internal secure communication service," said Mr Kobeissi.

Small, portable Raspberry Pi computers set up to run Cryptocat, he believes, may be a quick way to build such a service.

An interesting consequence of Moore's Law and the ready availability of free software is that powerful computers can now be produced for just tens of dollars, and in an extremely small package. The low cost means that organizations supporting activists can send in many such systems to countries with human rights problems, and replace them if they are discovered and confiscated or destroyed. The size makes it much easier to import them discreetly, as well as to conceal them in countries that try to keep computing under tight control.

And it's not just the Raspberry Pi that will be making this possible. Its high-profile success is likely to mean that in due course other systems will be produced that are cheaper and smaller. That will ensure they are even more popular with the educational market and hackers -- and even more problematic for oppressive regimes.

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:Lobo Santo (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 8:42am

Futures come, futures go.
"But nowadays you can put a supercomputer on a single chip, so anytime you see more than one chip together in one place, you're looking at significant ware."
-Neal Stephenson, Snow Crash (1992)

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weneedhelp (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 8:49am

Me first.

Its a tool for those radical terrorists. I can just hear it now.
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Beta (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 8:53am

Re:
Oh please, radical terrorists are so 2011. Cyberterrorists are the thing now, the new 2012 Anti-Democracy Hacktivists are just coming out, and of course child pornography never goes out of style.
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Mar 2012 @ 8:55am

Re: Futures come, futures go.
And therefore, a bunch of chips in one place must be up to no good...
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Mar 2012 @ 8:56am

It could also be used to run a programmable coffee pot. However, it doesn't mean it will subvert the entire coffee industry.

Further, if any "unfriendly" government feels that they are dealing with this sort of thing, the internet will likely get VERY filtered, and yes, that sort of traffic might actually stand out anyway.

I rate this piece barely 2/10, for a combination of wishful thinking and semi-ignorance of technology and networking... oh and the $25 unit doesn't have a network port.
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Ninja (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 8:56am

Goddamn it, and just a while ago computers used to take whole floors. WHAT KIND OF WIZARDRY IS THIS?! HOW DID THEY PUT THE COMPUTERS INSIDE THAT?!

Ahem.

Srsly, you know you are becoming old when your current computer is 10k times faster than yours first.
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Mar 2012 @ 8:57am

I'm thinking a pirate box, a few of these, some wireless routers, basic encryption algorithms, and we have one hell of a pirate network. What's that? You work at starbucks? Oh, well do me a favor and plug this innocuous little device into the router (or if you're real tech savvy open the router and directly solder it onto one of the ports and wire it into the power line) and BOOM instant node on a filsharing/free thinking/protest network (or pirate/radical/terrorist network depending on your views). Oh, there's a public library nearby? That's another node. Smartass in a computer class in a public high school? He'll probably add a few nodes.

We could build a physically hidden encrypted network that spans the country, nay the globe.

It won't happen, but the possibilities make me giggle just a little bit.
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Beta (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 8:59am

Computer? What computer?
Two new products immediately spring to mind:

1) A deniable computer that they can't find on you. Maybe integrated circuits worked into commonplace objects, like soda bottles; they're all over the place, but if you tap your private code into one it becomes a terminal...

2) A honeypot computer. It looks like a Raspberry Pi, but it has a hardware hack that feeds straight to the Ministry of Information. (Now there's a counterfeiting issue we can feel strongly about!)
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The Sky is Falling, 6 Mar 2012 @ 9:02am

It's for Copyright infringement & Terrorism
It's a tool made for the theft of American Intellectual Property and for terrorist sleeper cells communications !!!
OMG, OMG !!!
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Beta (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 9:03am

Re:
I was old when I was 17???
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Ninja (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 9:03am

Re:
I rate your comment 0/10 for not seeing in perspective and seeing that in the maybe not so far future.
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Mar 2012 @ 9:06am

Re:
All you'd need is the wireless router itself running 3rd party firmware. Some even have USB ports for external storage, and most are capable of realtime encryption.

Wake up people, your peripherals *are* computers.
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TtfnJohn (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 9:09am

Potential Educational Uses?
While the impact on openly oppressive regimes is likely to be great I can also see a great impact for activists in the increasingly oppressive western "democracies" and what we used to call the Free World. That's all the naked politics I want to get into for now because this is really about something else.

We've seen well intentioned and, sometimes, well designed small machines built for the world's poor but the projects often fall apart due to ego, greed and the seemingly endless fight between Windoze and Linux for a desktop. This little guy seems perfect for that kind of work and easily adaptable to most climate conditions.

Just a thought, because Glyn concentrated on political uses, to me this seems almost perfect for this sort of educational uses as well.
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GMacGuffin (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 9:13am

I Blame Star Wars
Now they talk openly about arming small militant activist groups with these gadgets so they can bypass their own government's mandates.

For those old enough to remember, prior to Star Wars, the rebels were usually the bad guys. I miss those simpler days. Damn you Lucas! Hail to The Man!
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awbMaven (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 9:14am

Re: Potential Educational Uses?
"I'm thinking a pirate box, a few of these, some wireless routers, basic encryption algorithms, and we have one hell of a pirate network. What's that? You work at starbucks? Oh, well do me a favor and plug this innocuous little device into the router (or if you're real tech savvy open the router and directly solder it onto one of the ports and wire it into the power line) and BOOM instant node on a filsharing/free thinking/protest network (or pirate/radical/terrorist network depending on your views)."

Can you draw up a How-To and post it on Youtube?

TIA
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silverscarcat (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 9:16am

Re: I Blame Star Wars
So...

Americans have always been bad guys?

Americans were once rebels too, ya know.
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Call me Al, 6 Mar 2012 @ 9:19am

Reminds me a bit of Little Brother by Cory Doctorow
In some respects the possibilities here remind me a bit of an aspect of the plot from Little Brother. A computer is made available for little or no cost and for educations or gaming purposes and is then co-opted and worked with to form an alternative network for activism.

I think it is a decent reminder of what can be done with relatively basic tech and also a statement to authorities the world over (who likely won't pay attention) that their outdated and unfortunate obsession with control and opacity are not popular with a sizeable portion of the populations they claim to represent.

Finally, if I may indulge in a moment of unnecessary patriotism, it does make me happy that people in the UK can still come up with awesome ideas like this... even as we sleepwalk into a police state.
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Mar 2012 @ 9:24am

Re: Re:
Yeah, but having the little hidden black box inside or connected to a system is easier than saying "hey, can I borrow the library's router for the hour it takes to install DD WRT?"
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Mar 2012 @ 9:26am

Re: Potential Educational Uses?
This is the sort of thing i wish we had when i went to school, inexpensive enough for students and it would have been perfect for the computer programming classes i took.

On a personal note though the first thing that went through my head when i read about Raspberry Pi was "holy crap, i bet i could build one of those into an old LCD monitor"
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Mar 2012 @ 9:26am

Spider Jerusalem would approve.
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GMacGuffin (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 9:30am

Re: Re: I Blame Star Wars
Americans were once rebels too, ya know.

No, Americans were revolutionaries. Revolutionaries good; rebels bad. Everyone with an American K-12 education (only) knows that.
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Keroberos (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 9:37am

Re:
...oh and the $25 unit doesn't have a network port.
The most common usages in oppressive Regimes would be using long range wi/fi over the border/offshore or creating large ad/hoc wi/fi communications networks bypassing the blocked/filtered networks, so ethernet would be rather redundant.
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awbMaven (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 9:39am

Re: Re: Potential Educational Uses?
'On a personal note though the first thing that went through my head when i read about Raspberry Pi was "holy crap, i bet i could build one of those into an old LCD monitor"'

The first two things I thought of when reading about the excitement Raspberry Pi was generating was:

1. I wonder how many have blown a Raspberry?

[that's a double entendre for the unaware]

(first answer I came up with was 3.14159.....)
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oh no, 6 Mar 2012 @ 9:49am

Now I'm seriously afraid they're gonna take my future raspberry pi (which, once I get it, I can't leave the house without) away when I need to clear US customs.

"We need to take your fingerprint and mugshot. Oh, and just drop your scary computation device in the bin over there. Welcome to the country."
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silverscarcat (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 10:01am

Re: Re: Re: I Blame Star Wars
Sorry to say, but even if they were Revolutionaries (as American history remembers them), they were rebels first.

So, yes, Americans were Rebels.
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A Dan (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 10:07am

Re:
No, it's obviously a tool for pirates.
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JEDIDIAH, 6 Mar 2012 @ 10:10am

Yes. Let's broadcast ourselves to the KGB.
Ethernet is not redundant once you have access to a physical cable somewhere. While the traffic between subnets may need to be wireless as a practical matter, there's no reason for traffic within a subnet to be wireless.

In fact, given the poor security aspects of wireless an ethernet port is even more critical in areas where personal freedom is limited.
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Mar 2012 @ 10:13am

Re: Re: Re: I Blame Star Wars
Successful rebels are known as revolutionaries. Unsuccessful rebels are known as plant food.
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DannyB (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 10:14am

Re: Re:
It's difficult to see in perspective when you see in only two dimensions (MPAA) or one dimension (RIAA).
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Chosen Reject (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 10:16am

Re: Re: Re: Re: I Blame Star Wars
They weren't Americans until after the revolution. Before that, they were British subjects. The British were rebels, the Americans were revolutionaries.
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GMacGuffin (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 10:18am

Re: Re: Re: Re: I Blame Star Wars
Well I have to respectfully disagree, being American and all. (And it appears we've beaten this sardonic horse to death - giving me the last word. Ha!)
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Mar 2012 @ 10:20am

Re: Re: Re: Re: I Blame Star Wars
Sir, I believe you forget that the Americans won, which means we get to write that particular piece of history. We were always revolutionaries! Always!

LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA
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silverscarcat (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 10:23am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I Blame Star Wars
Oh, did I forget to mention that I'm an American?

I think I did.

Born and raised American, 5th generation in this great country.

My grandmother's grandparents came over on the ship and settled down in the mid-west.

I just tend to look at other angles.
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Torg (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 10:23am

Re: Computer? What computer?
People have been proposing your 1 for decades, but I'm still waiting for my shoe phone.
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silverscarcat (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 10:24am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I Blame Star Wars
Of course Americans won.

I know that.

History is written by the victor.

Had the British won, George Washington would have been a rebel/insurgent that tried to overthrow the great British empire.

Instead, he's remembered as a great Hero who led the colonies to become one of the greatest countries ever.
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro, 6 Mar 2012 @ 10:35am

Re: No, it's obviously a tool for pirates.
As they say, the tools aren�t the pirates.
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro, 6 Mar 2012 @ 10:36am

Re: In fact, given the poor security aspects of wireless ...
Why should wireless be any less secure than wired?
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro, 6 Mar 2012 @ 10:39am

Re: Potential Educational Uses?
>We've seen well intentioned and, sometimes, well designed
>small machines built for the world's poor but the projects
>often fall apart due to ego...

For example? If you�re thinking OLPC, you realize that has already shipped more than 2 million units to its target market, right?
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TtfnJohn (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 10:41am

Re:
You might want to read the FAQ on the production model they're selling now because it does have a network port. Of course, in a pinch, you can always add a USB network port which the OS will detect on boot up.

Does it occur to you that most oppressive (not all are unfriendly to the west I need to point out, to our everlasting shame) regimes already have filters and firewalls in existence in place so this won't change things at all. That sort of traffic already exists and stands out but determined activists in those countries still find their way around it even if the results for them are often fatal.

As for semi-ignorance (actually approaching near total if you can't RTFM or FAQ) you've got Glyn beat by several light years.
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro, 6 Mar 2012 @ 10:42am

Followup Interview ...
... with one of the cofounders here. Note one Linux option not available for the π is Ubuntu.
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anon, 6 Mar 2012 @ 11:06am

no network port
It doesn't need a network port. It has a USB port. USB WiFi dongles are available in the $5 range.
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Watchit (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 11:22am

Re:
I'll give you a 1/10 for your ignorance of technology and lack of foresight into the possibilities this technology opens up. Besides the $35 one DOES have an Ethernet port and that's only $10 more...
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Watchit (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 11:36am

Re: Re: Computer? What computer?
I want a computer in my hat! In fact I want to have at least 5 computers on me at all times!
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zub, 6 Mar 2012 @ 11:42am

Re: Yes. Let's broadcast ourselves to the KGB.
You can plug an USB ethernet adapter into the USB hub. But this makes the device significantly larger. :)
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John Doe, 6 Mar 2012 @ 11:51am

But it won't fit into an Altoids tin
This thing will never take off because it doesn't fit into an Altoids tin. ;)
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RyanNerd (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 12:24pm

Coffee Industry subverted!!!
But only Java :)
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harbingerofdoom (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 12:34pm

Re:
or when your current phone is 10 times faster than your first computer... :p
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Jeffrey Nonken (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 12:35pm

Re:
My first computer (the first one I actually owned) was a KIM-1. OTOH, the first computer I ever programmed was an IBM 1130. But the oldest (earliest production) model computer I've ever programmed is an IBM 1620.

Pick one.

My fastest current computer is a Lenovo Thinkpad sporting a triple-core Phenom II P840 at 1.90 GHz, about a year old.

I have no idea what the performance differential is.
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Jeffrey Nonken (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 12:37pm

Re: Re: Computer? What computer?
Sorry about that, Chief!
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Jeffrey Nonken (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 12:47pm

Re: Re: Re: I Blame Star Wars
With sufficient effort and determination, a U.S. public education CAN be overcome.
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fairuse (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 1:13pm

Re: But it won't fit into an Altoids tin
Oh? Some creative sheet metal work and it will. I am getting a Raspberry just to put it in an Altoids� tin.

really.
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Jon, 6 Mar 2012 @ 1:15pm

Re:
Looks like it has a LAN port to me.
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John Fenderson (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 2:02pm

Re: Re: In fact, given the poor security aspects of wireless ...
Because with wireless, you can easily intercept the communications stream with nothing more than a cheap smartphone. With wired, you either need physical access to the wire, or you need to put a sniffer in place somewhere downstream.
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John Fenderson (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 2:05pm

Re:
I must be ancient. My current computer is (approximately and conservatively) 1 billion times faster than my first.
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TtfnJohn (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 2:11pm

Re: Re: Potential Educational Uses?
I'm aware of that, I'm also aware of all the backbiting, ego clashing, OS debates and other things which have kept shipments down.

I'm glad that OLPC is still shipping and I mean that. My suggestion is that this may be a superior alternative given the ubiquity of tv sets even in some of the poorest parts of the world among other factors. The more devices we can get into children's (and adults) hands in the poorer parts of the world the better off we are as it may reduce the growing digital divide.
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hegemon13, 6 Mar 2012 @ 2:24pm

Re:
Not really. According to the commonly-accepted 18-month doubling of computer performance, a 10x increase is about 5 years.
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hegemon13, 6 Mar 2012 @ 2:27pm

Re: Re: Potential Educational Uses?
My first thought was similar, once I found out that there is already a specialized build of XBMC for these things. I thought, "I could mount my HTPC inside my TV case." (It's a DLP, so there's plenty of room.)
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Gwiz (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 2:30pm

Re:
Srsly, you know you are becoming old when your current computer is 10k times faster than yours first.

By that metric I must have one foot in grave already.

My current wristwatch has more computing power than my first computer.
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Mar 2012 @ 2:33pm

Instant message encryption software is nothing new.
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Mar 2012 @ 2:41pm

Re: Re:
My first computer was a Tandy 1000HX. I think a cellphone from ten years ago would've been 10 times faster than it.

Whatever. The internet is awesome, plus I get to do old timer rants.
"You kids today have no idea how good you have it! In MY day, we had to go all the way to the computer store to buy free software on CD collections!"
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Mar 2012 @ 2:54pm

Re: Re: Futures come, futures go.
But chips are people too.
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ChurchHatesTucker (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 3:21pm

Re: Re:
I have to admit my first thought was "seedbox in an Altoids tin."

But it's *just* too big to fit in an Altoids tin.
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Mike42 (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 3:31pm

Re: Re: Re:
That's OK. There's an open-source file for 3D printing a case.
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Mike42 (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 3:35pm

Re: Re:
But that one costs $35! Apparantly $10 renders the entire post moot.
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Zenstrive (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 4:28pm

256 MB of RAM. I wonder if I can run word processors to write 1000 page novels in it...and oh, I need to have small monitor...
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chris (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 4:54pm

Re: Re: Re: In fact, given the poor security aspects of wireless ...
Because with wireless, you can easily intercept the communications stream with nothing more than a cheap smartphone.

yes, but the goal of the project is to produce encrypted speech tools for use in a political environment where the oppressive regime has complete control over the network infrastructure. tapping a network is really easy when the network provider is complicit, just ask any law enforcement agency in the united states.

wired or wireless, the security of the tool is at the application level and not the network layer.
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro, 6 Mar 2012 @ 5:58pm

Re: In fact, given the poor security aspects of wireless ...
>Because with wireless, you can easily intercept the
>communications stream with nothing more than a cheap
>smartphone.

You do realize that, as standard MO on the Internet, the security is implemented at the endpoints, right? The assumption being that anything transmitted across the Internet can be intercepted and subject to eavesdropping and replay attacks, and (hopefully) even man-in-the-middle attacks. Wired or wireless should make no difference to security.
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BeeAitch (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 7:25pm

Re: Computer? What computer?
Take a look at FLORA from Adafruit.

They're getting smaller...
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BeeAitch (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 7:27pm

Re: Re: Computer? What computer?
...might fit in a shoe heel... :)
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BeeAitch (profile), 6 Mar 2012 @ 7:29pm

Re: Re: Computer? What computer?
...or a hat.
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Mar 2012 @ 8:52pm

WOW looks like USA regime is in danger.
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Mar 2012 @ 9:29pm

Re: Re:
...but it isn't $25.

Which was the point. Sort of like car ads that tout the low price stripper model, but show you the most tarted up model they sell.
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Mar 2012 @ 9:34pm

Re: Re:
"The most common usages in oppressive Regimes would be using long range wi/fi over the border/offshore or creating large ad/hoc wi/fi communications networks bypassing the blocked/filtered networks, so ethernet would be rather redundant."

You still end up with the same set of problems. large ad/hoc networks would require that communications are either open or made public enough to allow people to connect, which in turn means the government / bad people/ whatever can do the same.

Further, the use of a wi-fi powerful enough to travel more than a few hundred meters would be easily detectable, and can easily be taken down by a more powerful signal at the border areas. Not much to it, really.

There really isn't any simple way to hide, certainly few that are very cost effective.
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The Moondoggie, 7 Mar 2012 @ 12:39am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I Blame Star Wars
One man's rebel force as another one's revolutionaries.

@GMacGuffin:

I'd advice you to watch your mouth, or your hands, American. When Spanish frairs were raping our women and we rose to rebel against them who are the ones bad here?
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The Moondoggie, 7 Mar 2012 @ 12:44am

Tools to bring down the trade.
Finally! A tool of innovation. With this tool American Intellectual Property tomfoolery is sure to be sent to oblivion in history!
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ECA (profile), 7 Mar 2012 @ 12:59am

This is an interesting unit.
I can see MANY purposes for this device.

90% of what we do with computers doesnt NEED Major POWER USE.
Wondering the net, writing Email, downloading, watching video's, RSS feeds, and so on, and on and on...

This CAN and will hurt Intel. Once people understand that with a "FEW" of these, you can do most anything in your house.
There are 2 models, and the $35 dollar one is perfect.

Stats..
They sold about 700 per second.
They are back ordered for the next 2 months..at least.
Watch for sales of SDHC high end cards, you will need one.
Video output and HD output.
YES, you can add, external DRIVES/CD/DVD and soforth.
SWAP the OS, from 1 format to another, or the WHOLE configuration, in seconds.

Anyone want to wait to replace a DVD player?? recorder??
oNLINE MUSIC PLAYER? a CLOUD BASED COMPUTER?

It PROBABLY wont play all the new games, but how many OLDER people want to play games? I know Many that just want access to Facebook/email/.. and family. NOW we need a $10 service for BASIC/BASIC internet.

Want to restrict your kids on games they play..HERE IT IS.. TONS of older games should play on this. Many were designed under Linux. Then teach your kids to MOD those games. its only C++.
For $140 (4-$35 units) you can network your WHOLE HOUSE..with abit more hardware/software...it can do most anything you need/want. Dont need no $400+ MS windows machine. I'll wait to see if they can be Daisy chained..Then get $400 worth and see if they can MARCH ON TOP of windows.
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ECA (profile), 7 Mar 2012 @ 1:06am

Anyone
ANyone want to REMOVE that $200+ computer in their car...
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monkyyy, 7 Mar 2012 @ 10:35am

Re: Re: Re:
if u cut off the rounded edges i think it fits
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monkyyy, 7 Mar 2012 @ 10:38am

Re: Coffee Industry subverted!!!
false
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monkyyy, 7 Mar 2012 @ 10:42am

Re:
im 19 and my gaming computer makes my first double (maybe even 3x) handmedown budget computer that was around 10 years out of date at the time...... dont think i was old at 15 when i got my first current budget pc
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monkyyy, 7 Mar 2012 @ 10:50am

Re: This is an interesting unit.
im sure the 700 per second was made up to match the possessing power
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John Fenderson (profile), 7 Mar 2012 @ 10:53am

Re: Re: In fact, given the poor security aspects of wireless ...
Yes, of course I realize that. I am speaking about security in general, not the specific case of if it's the telco who is spying. But still, wired is more secure than wireless simply because fewer people have easy access to the bitstream.

Encryption helps a lot, but it's far from a panacea. If you're thinking that you're secure because you're using encryption, then you are in particularly dangerous territory.
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aikiwolfie, 7 Mar 2012 @ 1:49pm

Apple & Microsoft
When the article talked about "oppressive regimes" I instantly thought they meant Apple and Microsoft. Not to mention all of the OEMs who just keep supporting them no matter what.

My next PC will cost me little more than �22. How awesome is that!
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Craig, 8 Mar 2012 @ 9:10am

Its amazing when I think 10 years ago I paid �2500 for a laptop that could do just about as much as the new raspberyy pi will!!

I have mine on order and I am looking forward to getting it in April ;-)
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kitsune361, 8 Mar 2012 @ 1:04pm

Re: Re: Re: Computer? What computer?
Was just reading MSPA and your post reminded me of this: http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005097

"You also wonder why he's not answering your messages. Does he even have a computer on him?? He should try to have more foresight, and carry no less than 5 computers on him at all times, like a sensible person."

=^.~=
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tijir (profile), 9 Mar 2012 @ 5:52am

Re: Re: Re:
Just get a competitors thumb drive pc: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2012/02/linux-computer-the-size-of-a-thumb-drive-now-available-f or-preorder.ars you can fit a few of them in an Altoids can.
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